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Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to
boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then). thanks. |
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![]() db wrote in message ... Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then). thanks. Around here (Nova Scotia) a lot of smaller keelboats leave the outboard on the transom all season. For trailerable boats, I'd flush the cooling system after every outing with fresh water. |
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db wrote:
Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then). thanks. Four cycle engines outsell the two cycle engines these days, especially on larger boats. Salt water is less of a problem, especially if you plug a fresh water hose into the inlet most outboards have for flushing. If I were buying right now, I'd go four cycle and then within that type, Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, Mercury. The Evinrude/Johnson company went kaput some years ago, but its brand names were purchased and are now owned by Bombardier. It offers some advanced tech two cycle engines, and those who buy them like them, but the company doesn't have much market penetration. |
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On Mon, 22 Oct '07 08:39am, db wrote:
Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then). thanks. 1st thing you'd notice, the high HP motors are higher. You don't have to settle for an I/O anymore for a 5,000 lb boat. 2nd, in the lower HP range, they're getting more power out of less weight. 3rd, buying a four cycle motor doesn't mean just "Homelite" any more. They all offer 'em. 4th, reliability, upside is, they don't seem to break down as often (at least while they're still new). Downside though, when they break down, you're less likely to be able to fix it yourself. Fuel injection and computer controlled electronic ignition aren't as easily patched out on the water (i.e. people can't afford to carry spares for that stuff). And even the new carburetors are more complex. So expect to be towed home as often as before. But expect to pay $ a pro for the tow these days (a six pack'o Bud won't cut it anymore), Many members of the boating public simply don't look out for each other like they use to. 5th, expense. They're a LOT more expensive to buy. And a lot more expensive to maintain than they used to be. I bought a new 20hp Honda a couple of years ago. I paid about the same for it as I paid for a new 19' Thunderbird in 1971. By now, I've thrown in another 30% (of the purchase price) for maintenance and repairs. IMHO, that's ridiculous for a little motor like that. But.... whutcha gonna do? Rick ---- just my 2 cents |
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![]() db wrote in message ... Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then). thanks. Lots of the improvement is via Materials Science. Better alloys. Better rubber hoses, etc. |
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Don White wrote:
db wrote in message ... Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then). thanks. Around here (Nova Scotia) a lot of smaller keelboats leave the outboard on the transom all season. For trailerable boats, I'd flush the cooling system after every outing with fresh water. Wow. |
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![]() "Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message ... Don White wrote: db wrote in message ... Just curious since I've been outa boating for 30 years. I used to boat daily with a small 18 footer with an outboard motor in the east end of Long Island. Back then it seemed like the outboards were always in need of repair or in my mind often ( I guess the salt water was tough on them) and I wonder if the outboards are more sturdier today or about the same? I can imagine the motors are higher tech but salt water hasn't changed so I'm just curious with those of you who are currently boating what your opinion of them are? I know today there is more selection of brands. Back then, I only saw Evinrude, J&J, Mercury and Chrysler (a small amount then). thanks. Around here (Nova Scotia) a lot of smaller keelboats leave the outboard on the transom all season. For trailerable boats, I'd flush the cooling system after every outing with fresh water. Wow. This is boating talk Dingy Dan...you wouldn't be interested! |
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