The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3 running
on an older Mac. I might be buying a new computer sooner than I
normally do.

This is an example of the articles I have read that have started me
thinking about buying a Mac when it is time to upgrade:

October 29, 2007 (Computerworld) -- Apple Inc.'s computers are the most
reliable and its support the most dependable of five top vendors, a
national chain of computer service shops said today.

Macs beat machines built and sold by Lenovo Group Ltd., Hewlett-Packard
Co., Gateway Inc. and Dell Inc., according to Rescuecom Corp.'s second
annual reliability report. Apple, which took the second spot last year,
blew away the competition this year by posting a score 51% higher than
the next-best, Lenovo.

To come up with its scores, Rescuecom compared the percentage of each
company's support calls with its market share, said David Milman,
Rescuecom's CEO. The greater the difference, the higher the score, and
the better the hardware and follow-up OEM support. Apple, for example,
received the highest score because Macs made up only 1.4% of all calls
to Rescuecom, even though its estimated market share was 5% for the
year. Dell machines, on the other hand, accounted for 34.5% of all
Rescuecom's incoming calls, which was higher than the company's 32.3%
market share.

"It takes into account not just the quality and reliability of the
equipment," said Milman, "but also the quality of service." The two are
equally important, he said. "If a user is calling Rescuecom, that means
they've abandoned the manufacturer's own support."

Apple led the five vendors with a score of 347, followed by Lenovo/IBM
(236), HP (126), Gateway (103) and Dell (94).

"Apple's score tells me that it has both great quality control and great
support in place," said Milman. "And that Apple is taking care of its
customers though its internal support channel." Unlike the other four
vendors, Apple has its own retail chain, whose stores are manned with
customer support personnel, dubbed Apple Geniuses.

Dell, on the other hand, is now at the bottom of Rescuecom's scoring
system, having slipped from last year's fourth place to fifth this year.
"Dell faces some challenges to deliver quality products and quality
services," said Milman. "The probability is certainly higher that a
customer will have problems with a Dell than with an HP or a Lenovo
[computer]."

The Round Rock, Tex. computer maker's has had problems meeting customer
demand for some laptops, and has seen its once high-flying service and
support reputation drop. In August, for instance, the American Customer
Satisfaction Index (ASCI), a barometer of customer satisfaction produced
at the University of Michigan, pegged Dell's score as down four points
from the previous year.

"Dell isn't going anywhere," said Milman. "They still have good
machines. But over the long run, you're more likely to have a problem
with Dell."

In the same ASCI of August, Apple scored 79, the highest among the seven
makers and/or computer lines, but like Dell, also down four points from
2006.

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3 running
on an older Mac

I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3 running
on an older Mac. I might be buying a new computer sooner than I
normally do.


Under 11 seconds for CS3 extended just now, with two both my web browers
and news reader loaded. Seems fast enough to me for a PC.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3 running
on an older Mac

I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.

I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.

I currently have both CS2 and CS3 on my computer. As soon as i can get
my wife converted to CS3 I will do a new install and leave off CS2 and
all the other junk that ends up on a computer used by teenagers. My
wife absolutely hates to upgrade software, so I will have to walk her
through the advantages of CS3.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3
running on an older Mac. I might be buying a new computer sooner than
I normally do.


Under 11 seconds for CS3 extended just now, with two both my web browers
and news reader loaded. Seems fast enough to me for a PC.

About 15 secs for CS3 the first time, but when I closed it to try it a
second time, it opened in less than 5. Seems like there is a FNP
Licensing Service program that takes awhile to check out everything when
you first open the software, but it stays running in the background even
after shutting Photoshop down.

I think I paid about $1300 -$1500 for my off the shelf system about a
year ago. I actually upgraded sound card and video card so I really
not sure of the final cost, but it was in that range. It was around the
same time you upgraded yours, what is the total cost on your custom job.

The quick overview:
Gateway GM5072
AMD Athlon 64X2 Dual Core 4200+
2.21 GHZ 2.0 GB Ram

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3
running on an older Mac. I might be buying a new computer sooner
than I normally do.


Under 11 seconds for CS3 extended just now, with two both my web
browers and news reader loaded. Seems fast enough to me for a PC.

About 15 secs for CS3 the first time, but when I closed it to try it a
second time, it opened in less than 5. Seems like there is a FNP
Licensing Service program that takes awhile to check out everything when
you first open the software, but it stays running in the background even
after shutting Photoshop down.

I think I paid about $1300 -$1500 for my off the shelf system about a
year ago. I actually upgraded sound card and video card so I really
not sure of the final cost, but it was in that range. It was around the
same time you upgraded yours, what is the total cost on your custom job.

The quick overview:
Gateway GM5072
AMD Athlon 64X2 Dual Core 4200+
2.21 GHZ 2.0 GB Ram


Just under 2K.

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3 running
on an older Mac

I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.

I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.

I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for just
about anything.

I bought the latest version of Photoshop CS3 Extended so I'm dealing
with a higher end image processor - lots of stuff in there.

Maybe that's the problem?



I currently have both CS2 and CS3 on my computer. As soon as i can get
my wife converted to CS3 I will do a new install and leave off CS2 and
all the other junk that ends up on a computer used by teenagers. My
wife absolutely hates to upgrade software, so I will have to walk her
through the advantages of CS3.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow
Photoshop CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of
Photoshop CS3 running on an older Mac. I might be buying a new
computer sooner than I normally do.


Under 11 seconds for CS3 extended just now, with two both my web
browers and news reader loaded. Seems fast enough to me for a PC.

About 15 secs for CS3 the first time, but when I closed it to try it a
second time, it opened in less than 5. Seems like there is a FNP
Licensing Service program that takes awhile to check out everything
when you first open the software, but it stays running in the
background even after shutting Photoshop down.

I think I paid about $1300 -$1500 for my off the shelf system about a
year ago. I actually upgraded sound card and video card so I really
not sure of the final cost, but it was in that range. It was around
the same time you upgraded yours, what is the total cost on your
custom job.

The quick overview:
Gateway GM5072
AMD Athlon 64X2 Dual Core 4200+
2.21 GHZ 2.0 GB Ram


Just under 2K.

and what is the quick overview of the system.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3 running
on an older Mac
I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.
I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.

I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for just
about anything.

I used to give my kids the old computer whenever I purchased a new one.
That way they could play games and would not screw up my machine.
That didn't work because the old machine would not run the new games. I
then started giving my old machine to my mother who only used it for
email and the internet. She soon got tired of using an old computer and
purchased a new low end model. I am now giving away my old machine to
neighbors or a community center who gives them to kids who can't afford
a computer.

On Oct 30, 7:51 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3 running
on an older Mac
I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.
I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.

I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for just
about anything.

I used to give my kids the old computer whenever I purchased a new one.
That way they could play games and would not screw up my machine.
That didn't work because the old machine would not run the new games. I
then started giving my old machine to my mother who only used it for
email and the internet. She soon got tired of using an old computer and
purchased a new low end model. I am now giving away my old machine to
neighbors or a community center who gives them to kids who can't afford
a computer.

I am considering giving away my new laptop with Vista and getting a
Mac or buying an older second hand laptop with XP