"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:24:46 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:03:22 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Another somewhat annoying thing about the Toshiba....

It's one of the new models with a fully digital tuner although it still
processes analog. When you turn it on a message appears on the screen,
saying "Please wait". This lasts for a fews seconds as the tuner
apparently "boots" up. Then, if you change the channel with the
remote,
there is a significant delay while it changes to the selected channel.
Screen goes blank and you wait for a bit.

Not good for serious clicker watchers.

Eisboch


Sounds like my Dishnetwork tuner.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. I believe they buffer up a few
seconds of programming in the receiver before they turn it loose to
the television.

I wonder if you can adjust that like you can with XM or Sirius?

I haven't much experience with Dishnetwork equipment, but with DirecTV you
can set the box to always output in one format (480,720p, or 1080i) no
matter what the original source signal is. When you set the box in this
manner there is never any delay while changing channels. With the box set to
"native resolution" the box will output in the resolution that the
broadcasting station uses and you will incur a slight delay while your TV
adjusts to the new resolution. The Dishnetwork receiver may have a similar
feature.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:46:28 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

It's one of the new models with a fully digital tuner although it
still
processes analog. When you turn it on a message appears on the
screen,
saying "Please wait". This lasts for a fews seconds as the tuner
apparently "boots" up. Then, if you change the channel with the
remote,
there is a significant delay while it changes to the selected channel.
Screen goes blank and you wait for a bit.

Not good for serious clicker watchers.

Eisboch


Sounds like my Dishnetwork tuner.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. I believe they buffer up a few
seconds of programming in the receiver before they turn it loose to
the television.

I wonder if you can adjust that like you can with XM or Sirius?

Probably if you are a DishNetwork Receiver wizard but I'm certainly
not. They don't exactly encourage customers to "explore" the box.


The signal buffering makes sense. Funny, the DirecTV tuner I am using on
the boat does not have any apparent delays (other than a cold startup) but
I know the signal is buffered.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:46:28 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

It's one of the new models with a fully digital tuner although it
still
processes analog. When you turn it on a message appears on the
screen,
saying "Please wait". This lasts for a fews seconds as the tuner
apparently "boots" up. Then, if you change the channel with the
remote,
there is a significant delay while it changes to the selected
channel.
Screen goes blank and you wait for a bit.

Not good for serious clicker watchers.

Eisboch


Sounds like my Dishnetwork tuner.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. I believe they buffer up a few
seconds of programming in the receiver before they turn it loose to
the television.

I wonder if you can adjust that like you can with XM or Sirius?

Probably if you are a DishNetwork Receiver wizard but I'm certainly
not. They don't exactly encourage customers to "explore" the box.


The signal buffering makes sense. Funny, the DirecTV tuner I am using on
the boat does not have any apparent delays (other than a cold startup)
but I know the signal is buffered.

Eisboch

The over the air digital signal is delayed about 5 seconds from the OTA
analog signal. Weather or not sattelite does any buffering, I couldn't say


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Before this thread gets kicked into the archives, never to be seen
again, I just have one more thing in case anybody's interested.
I popped down to Walmart yesterday and bought a Magnavox combination
VCR/DVD-R with both an Analog and Digital Tuner for $179. But instead
of hooking it up to my new SDTV, I hooked it up to an old Analog set
I've had for years. And Voila! I'm picking up digital broadcasts and
displaying them on the Analog set. And the reception has never looked
better! Needless to say, I'm a happy camper.
Just thought I'd mention it in case somebody wants digital programming
without the expense of buying a new set just yet, with a VCR/DVD-R to
boot.

Rick

On Sat, 17 Nov 07, PhantMan wrote:
I popped down to Walmart yesterday and bought a Magnavox combination
VCR/DVD-R with both an Analog and Digital Tuner for $179.

On Sat, 17 Nov 07, gfretwell wrote:
When that gets to $100 it is worth doing. That will probably be in
January the way things are going.

The one I bought was $189 when I first saw it. Then $179 when I went
to get it a couple days ago. Now it's on Walmart's website for $169.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5622734

And if you're interested mainly in the tuner, as I was, the DVD
Recorder model sells for $139
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5622736
So it may make your price point before January :-)

I still have little interest in a huge TV anyway. Until the content
gets better, making the picture bigger doesn't make it better. It only
means I need to dedicate more space to the TV. TV is not a significant
part of my life. I feel sad for the people who think it is.

You and I are apparently the same TV viewer type. I gave up on cable
because of all the programming I wasn't watching. All I want is the
news, a little football, and PBS programs like Nova, Nature, Hisory
programs, and some other stuff most people consider *really* boring. I
can get all that on an antenna. And more than I have time to watch
when I add digital broadcasting. Mostly I watch 14" & 19" TVs. I
bought the 27" TV as a concession to my girlfriend (she's high
maintenance ya know lol :-^)

Rick