"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by, and
at the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes," I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.

Before you run Windows Update, you may want to read this slowly, three
times:

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/071129/#story1

And don't give me any crap about how your situation is an exception to
what the writer is talking about, or how your copy of XP is legit so
none of this matters.

Since my copy of XP Pro was sent to me as a gift from MS, I am not
concerned about its legitimacy.


Wrong. That's like saying warrantless surveillance is cool because you
haven't broken the law.

Read the article. WGA can still cause nightmares, and there's nothing you
can to once it begins. You'll wish you'd paid attention.

I'll call MS if I have those sorts of problems.


Harry, I expected this. It's pathetic, really. The article is about a piece
of the windows update software which is essentially spyware. Microsoft
**WANTS** you to have it, and if you call them, they will run you around in
circles trying to get you to keep it on your system.

Stop pretending to know more than non-MS experts, and read the article.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by, and
at the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes," I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.
Before you run Windows Update, you may want to read this slowly, three
times:

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/071129/#story1

And don't give me any crap about how your situation is an exception to
what the writer is talking about, or how your copy of XP is legit so
none of this matters.
Since my copy of XP Pro was sent to me as a gift from MS, I am not
concerned about its legitimacy.

Wrong. That's like saying warrantless surveillance is cool because you
haven't broken the law.

Read the article. WGA can still cause nightmares, and there's nothing you
can to once it begins. You'll wish you'd paid attention.
I'll call MS if I have those sorts of problems.


Harry, I expected this. It's pathetic, really. The article is about a piece
of the windows update software which is essentially spyware. Microsoft
**WANTS** you to have it, and if you call them, they will run you around in
circles trying to get you to keep it on your system.

Stop pretending to know more than non-MS experts, and read the article.




I read the article. I'm aware of these issues. I'm not having any. I
haven't had any. If I do, I know who at MS to call.

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by, and
at the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes,"
I'll update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.
Before you run Windows Update, you may want to read this slowly,
three times:

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/071129/#story1

And don't give me any crap about how your situation is an exception
to what the writer is talking about, or how your copy of XP is legit
so none of this matters.
Since my copy of XP Pro was sent to me as a gift from MS, I am not
concerned about its legitimacy.

Wrong. That's like saying warrantless surveillance is cool because you
haven't broken the law.

Read the article. WGA can still cause nightmares, and there's nothing
you can to once it begins. You'll wish you'd paid attention.
I'll call MS if I have those sorts of problems.


Harry, I expected this. It's pathetic, really. The article is about a
piece of the windows update software which is essentially spyware.
Microsoft **WANTS** you to have it, and if you call them, they will run
you around in circles trying to get you to keep it on your system.

Stop pretending to know more than non-MS experts, and read the article.


I read the article. I'm aware of these issues. I'm not having any. I
haven't had any. If I do, I know who at MS to call.


If you allow windows update to freely do its thing, you WILL have issues
eventually. It's not a matter of "if". It's "when".

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by, and
at the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes,"
I'll update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.
Before you run Windows Update, you may want to read this slowly,
three times:

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/071129/#story1

And don't give me any crap about how your situation is an exception
to what the writer is talking about, or how your copy of XP is legit
so none of this matters.
Since my copy of XP Pro was sent to me as a gift from MS, I am not
concerned about its legitimacy.
Wrong. That's like saying warrantless surveillance is cool because you
haven't broken the law.

Read the article. WGA can still cause nightmares, and there's nothing
you can to once it begins. You'll wish you'd paid attention.
I'll call MS if I have those sorts of problems.

Harry, I expected this. It's pathetic, really. The article is about a
piece of the windows update software which is essentially spyware.
Microsoft **WANTS** you to have it, and if you call them, they will run
you around in circles trying to get you to keep it on your system.

Stop pretending to know more than non-MS experts, and read the article.

I read the article. I'm aware of these issues. I'm not having any. I
haven't had any. If I do, I know who at MS to call.


If you allow windows update to freely do its thing, you WILL have issues
eventually. It's not a matter of "if". It's "when".



Life is full of issues. The few I have had from MS have been solvable.
As I stated, if I run into a serious problem, I know who to call. Thanks
for your concern.

"HK" wrote in message
news
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by,
and at the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update
"takes," I'll update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.
Before you run Windows Update, you may want to read this slowly,
three times:

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/071129/#story1

And don't give me any crap about how your situation is an exception
to what the writer is talking about, or how your copy of XP is
legit so none of this matters.
Since my copy of XP Pro was sent to me as a gift from MS, I am not
concerned about its legitimacy.
Wrong. That's like saying warrantless surveillance is cool because
you haven't broken the law.

Read the article. WGA can still cause nightmares, and there's nothing
you can to once it begins. You'll wish you'd paid attention.
I'll call MS if I have those sorts of problems.

Harry, I expected this. It's pathetic, really. The article is about a
piece of the windows update software which is essentially spyware.
Microsoft **WANTS** you to have it, and if you call them, they will run
you around in circles trying to get you to keep it on your system.

Stop pretending to know more than non-MS experts, and read the article.

I read the article. I'm aware of these issues. I'm not having any. I
haven't had any. If I do, I know who at MS to call.


If you allow windows update to freely do its thing, you WILL have issues
eventually. It's not a matter of "if". It's "when".

Life is full of issues. The few I have had from MS have been solvable. As
I stated, if I run into a serious problem, I know who to call. Thanks for
your concern.


OK. You're the expert.

wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:28:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by,
and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes," I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.
This is the machine I let household guests use.
Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.
Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up their
messes, all the time
Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS. There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the
gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device drivers, but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also
have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new
owner of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...
VISTA????????? OMG, your computers must be crashing all the time. :-)


If that happens, just call 1-800-REGGIE-SUX for tech support.
Harry,
Why do you find it necessary to use childish insults?


Because he knows it will guarantee a response from you.



yeah, you probably are correct.

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:48:49 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message


If you allow windows update to freely do its thing, you WILL have issues
eventually. It's not a matter of "if". It's "when".

Life is full of issues. The few I have had from MS have been solvable. As
I stated, if I run into a serious problem, I know who to call. Thanks for
your concern.


OK. You're the expert.

Joe, there are millions of people using XP and Vista with WGA.
Very few are experts.
They are somehow getting by.
Do you think MS is spying on people?
AFAICT the main reason to avoid WGA is that the OS is pirated.
I have heard that VISTA is already hacked, and can get MS updates.
Some might argue that beyond service packs, the updates are
unnecessary.
What's your point?

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:48:49 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message


If you allow windows update to freely do its thing, you WILL have
issues
eventually. It's not a matter of "if". It's "when".

Life is full of issues. The few I have had from MS have been solvable.
As
I stated, if I run into a serious problem, I know who to call. Thanks
for
your concern.


OK. You're the expert.

Joe, there are millions of people using XP and Vista with WGA.
Very few are experts.
They are somehow getting by.
Do you think MS is spying on people?
AFAICT the main reason to avoid WGA is that the OS is pirated.
I have heard that VISTA is already hacked, and can get MS updates.
Some might argue that beyond service packs, the updates are
unnecessary.
What's your point?

--Vic


Vic, I would be happy to discuss this further with you. First, read the
article and tell me what you think about it. We really can't proceed until
you do that.

And by the way, I'm no expert either.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by, and
at the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes," I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.
Before you run Windows Update, you may want to read this slowly, three
times:

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/071129/#story1

And don't give me any crap about how your situation is an exception to
what the writer is talking about, or how your copy of XP is legit so
none of this matters.
Since my copy of XP Pro was sent to me as a gift from MS, I am not
concerned about its legitimacy.

Wrong. That's like saying warrantless surveillance is cool because you
haven't broken the law.

Read the article. WGA can still cause nightmares, and there's nothing you
can to once it begins. You'll wish you'd paid attention.
I'll call MS if I have those sorts of problems.


Harry, I expected this. It's pathetic, really. The article is about a piece
of the windows update software which is essentially spyware. Microsoft
**WANTS** you to have it, and if you call them, they will run you around in
circles trying to get you to keep it on your system.

Stop pretending to know more than non-MS experts, and read the article.

Did you accept the license agreement?

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:07:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message

Joe, there are millions of people using XP and Vista with WGA.
Very few are experts.
They are somehow getting by.
Do you think MS is spying on people?
AFAICT the main reason to avoid WGA is that the OS is pirated.
I have heard that VISTA is already hacked, and can get MS updates.
Some might argue that beyond service packs, the updates are
unnecessary.
What's your point?

--Vic


Vic, I would be happy to discuss this further with you. First, read the
article and tell me what you think about it. We really can't proceed until
you do that.

And by the way, I'm no expert either.

I did read it, and these same scattered validation issues were there
years ago, when MS started installing WGA. But it remains that the
vast majority of users have no problems with it.
If you are concerned about WGA, there are hacks to get around it.
These are illegal, as is spitting on the sidewalk.
Otherwise there is Linux, MacOS, etc.
But I want to hear your views on this.
BTW, I don't like my computer communicating with Redmond either,
but some thing must be put in personal perspective, and some people
have no problem with it.

--Vic

--Vic

--Vic