Find a real boating forum. This NG is a joke and nothing more than cheap
entertainment.

Harry, Gould, bb, jps, Jim Dandy, ignoramus and the group have turned this into nothing
more than a political chat room full of childish name calling and intolerance for
opposing opinions.

Don't blame me for what it is now. I came on board when the NG was already screwed up
thanks to the members I mentioned above. I only joined in the fun.

Email me if you want some serious boating forums.


"noah" wrote in message
...
When I first found rec.boats, I was thrilled (it doesn't take much
anymore) at the idea of "fellow boaters" to talk with.

Soon after, after wading through the political and personal bashing, I
mentioned this in the group, and was told (about 3:1), to "get used to
it". I have.

I have researched the rec.boats Charter and,basically, the founders
never anticipated that the group would be used for anything *but*
boating posts, therefore did not include any language concerning OT
posts. C'est dommage.

I admit to joining the OT posts now and then. It's like a "free
brunch". How can you resist? ) Sometimes, they are interesting.

As regular posters to this group, would you support an amendment to
the FAQ requiring that the letters "OT" precede any off-topic post?
This would not limit any discussion, but would enable the boating
purists to filter the background noise. The political warriors would
remain free to eviscerate each other.

As it stands, some do, some don't, "OT". Some posters have left the
group, or have become "lurkers", because they are annoyed and
frustrated with the OT postings. Perhaps a compromise is appropriate?

I can appreciate the idea that rec.boats is like "the bar at the yacht
club". I can also understand the plight of the weekend boater who
comes here looking for boating info, and finds reps and dems ripping
each others viscerals out. Viscerals are good, especially with garlic
and wine sauce, but this isn't a cooking newsgroup.

Is it worth the minimal effort to try to resolve these differences? I
think so, but then again, I married my ex-wife. My judgement is
suspect.

I would appreciate the comments of the entire group on this issue.

Regards,
noah

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:31:04 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:

Find a real boating forum. This NG is a joke and nothing more than cheap
entertainment.

I often find good advice in this group. But then, I own six boats,
and read the on-topic posts.

Harry, Gould, bb, jps, Jim Dandy, ignoramus and the group have turned this into nothing
more than a political chat room full of childish name calling and intolerance for
opposing opinions.

....and you had no part?

Don't blame me for what it is now. I came on board when the NG was already screwed up
thanks to the members I mentioned above. I only joined in the fun.

OK. I won't blame you. Mom wasn't looking anyway.
You could, however, improve it.

Email me if you want some serious boating forums.

Sounds like you're more interested in wrecked.boats than rec.boats.
To each his own.

Thanks for the response.
noah


"noah" wrote in message
.. .
When I first found rec.boats, I was thrilled (it doesn't take much
anymore) at the idea of "fellow boaters" to talk with.

Soon after, after wading through the political and personal bashing, I
mentioned this in the group, and was told (about 3:1), to "get used to
it". I have.

I have researched the rec.boats Charter and,basically, the founders
never anticipated that the group would be used for anything *but*
boating posts, therefore did not include any language concerning OT
posts. C'est dommage.

I admit to joining the OT posts now and then. It's like a "free
brunch". How can you resist? ) Sometimes, they are interesting.

As regular posters to this group, would you support an amendment to
the FAQ requiring that the letters "OT" precede any off-topic post?
This would not limit any discussion, but would enable the boating
purists to filter the background noise. The political warriors would
remain free to eviscerate each other.

As it stands, some do, some don't, "OT". Some posters have left the
group, or have become "lurkers", because they are annoyed and
frustrated with the OT postings. Perhaps a compromise is appropriate?

I can appreciate the idea that rec.boats is like "the bar at the yacht
club". I can also understand the plight of the weekend boater who
comes here looking for boating info, and finds reps and dems ripping
each others viscerals out. Viscerals are good, especially with garlic
and wine sauce, but this isn't a cooking newsgroup.

Is it worth the minimal effort to try to resolve these differences? I
think so, but then again, I married my ex-wife. My judgement is
suspect.

I would appreciate the comments of the entire group on this issue.

Regards,
noah

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:31:04 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:

Harry, Gould, bb, jps, Jim Dandy, ignoramus and the group have turned this into nothing
more than a political chat room full of childish name calling and intolerance for
opposing opinions.

So the problem in this group, according you, is clearly caused by
those who happen to be left of center, and those right of center don't
contribute to the problem? Interesting you would be accusing others
of intolerance.

bb

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:15:54 -0400, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

I think the OT designation is a good idea, I just find it ironic that
you didn't in this post.

You don't think a post about rec.boats, in rec.boats, is on topic?

bb

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:02:20 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

bb wrote:

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:31:04 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:

Harry, Gould, bb, jps, Jim Dandy, ignoramus and the group have turned this into nothing
more than a political chat room full of childish name calling and intolerance for
opposing opinions.

So the problem in this group, according you, is clearly caused by
those who happen to be left of center, and those right of center don't
contribute to the problem? Interesting you would be accusing others
of intolerance.

bb



Jim is a flaming ass, and nothing he posts is worth more than a
throwaway response. Don't waste your time. I don't.

Whoops, missed this one. Now it must be about 13 personal attacks in 2 days.
Somewhat remarkable.

The slope of my respect curve is getting more and more to the left of zero.
John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:02:20 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

bb wrote:

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:31:04 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:

Harry, Gould, bb, jps, Jim Dandy, ignoramus and the group have turned this into nothing
more than a political chat room full of childish name calling and intolerance for
opposing opinions.

So the problem in this group, according you, is clearly caused by
those who happen to be left of center, and those right of center don't
contribute to the problem? Interesting you would be accusing others
of intolerance.

bb



Jim is a flaming ass, and nothing he posts is worth more than a
throwaway response. Don't waste your time. I don't.

Whoops, missed this one. Now it must be about 13 personal attacks in 2 days.
Somewhat remarkable.

The slope of my respect curve is getting more and more to the left of zero.
John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


There is no reason to get involved in any sort of discussion with
right-wingers. It's like fighting with a pig. You get muddy, you end up
smelling bad and...the right-wing pig is still...a pig.

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Subject: Gould, jps, NOYB, Jim, Harry, and a cast of thousands

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:31:04 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:

Harry, Gould, bb, jps, Jim Dandy, ignoramus and the group have turned this
into nothing
more than a political chat room full of childish name calling and
intolerance for
opposing opinions.

Another typical newsgroup whiner.

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: Gould, jps, NOYB, Jim, Harry, and a cast of thousands

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:31:04 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:

Harry, Gould, bb, jps, Jim Dandy, ignoramus and the group have turned this
into nothing
more than a political chat room full of childish name calling and
intolerance for
opposing opinions.

Another typical newsgroup whiner.

Capt. Bill

"Jim" is a horse's ass.


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"Jim" is a horse's ass.


And you're a piece of ****.

Make that a lying piece of ****.
In fact, the only time I know for sure you've told the truth is when you
admitted to being a socialist.

Chris wrote:

"Jim" is a horse's ass.


And you're a piece of ****.

Make that a lying piece of ****.
In fact, the only time I know for sure you've told the truth is when you
admitted to being a socialist.



I don't recall "admitting" to being a socialist, feces-for-brains. I'm
actually a moderate, yellow-dog Democrat. But I certainly find very
little wrong with the brand of democratic socialism practiced in some
northern European nations.




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