wrote:
On Jan 24, 5:39 pm, hk wrote:

I understand several of the leading right-wing pundits - Limbaugh,
Coulter, et al - are close to having a stroke over the McCain rise, with
Limbaugh claiming McCain will destroy the Republican Party. Crikey, if
that were the case I would vote for the guy in the GOP primary.

You understand huh.. Hummmm, I actually watched the rundown and
whoever told you this exagerated, just a little. I know, I know, you
would have said it anyway.. it's ok Harry, we know..




Here...choke on this:


'Straight Talk' Express Takes Scenic Route to Truth
by Ann Coulter
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24635

John McCain is Bob Dole minus the charm, conservatism and youth. Like
McCain, pollsters assured us that Dole was the most "electable"
Republican. Unlike McCain, Dole didn't lie all the time while claiming
to engage in Straight Talk.

Of course, I might lie constantly too, if I were seeking the Republican
presidential nomination after enthusiastically promoting amnesty for
illegal aliens, Social Security credit for illegal aliens, criminal
trials for terrorists, stem-cell research on human embryos, crackpot
global warming legislation and free speech-crushing campaign-finance laws.

I might lie too, if I had opposed the Bush tax cuts, a marriage
amendment to the Constitution, waterboarding terrorists and drilling in
Alaska.

And I might lie if I had called the ads of the Swift Boat Veterans for
Truth "dishonest and dishonorable."

McCain angrily denounces the suggestion that his "comprehensive
immigration reform" constituted "amnesty" -- on the ludicrous grounds
that it included a small fine. Even the guy who graduated fifth from the
bottom of his class at the U.S. Naval Academy didn't fall for this a few
years ago.

In 2003, McCain told The Tucson Citizen that "amnesty has to be an
important part" of any immigration reform. He also rolled out the old
chestnut about America's need for illegals, who do "jobs that American
workers simply won't do."

McCain's amnesty bill would have immediately granted millions of newly
legalized immigrants Social Security benefits. He even supported
allowing work performed as an illegal to count toward Social Security
benefits as recently as a vote in 2006 -- now adamantly denied by Mr.
Straight Talk.

McCain keeps boasting that he was "the only one" of the Republican
presidential candidates who supported the surge in Iraq.

What is he talking about? All Republicans supported the surge --
including Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani. The only ones who didn't
support it were McCain pals like Sen. Chuck Hagel. Indeed, the surge is
the first part of the war on terrorism that caused McCain to break from
Hagel in order to support the president.

True, McCain voted for the war. So did Hillary Clinton. Like her, he
then immediately started attacking every other aspect of the war on
terrorism. (The only difference was, he threw in frequent references to
his experience as a POW, which currently outnumber John Kerry's
references to being a Vietnam vet.)

Thus, McCain joined with the Democrats in demanding O.J. trials for
terrorists at Guantanamo, including his demand that the terrorists have
full access to the intelligence files being used to prosecute them.

These days, McCain gives swashbuckling speeches about the terrorists who
"will follow us home." But he still opposes dripping water down their
noses. He was a POW, you know. Also a member of the Keating 5 scandal,
which you probably don't know, and won't -- until he becomes the
Republican nominee.

Though McCain was far from the only Republican to support the surge, he
does have the distinction of being the only Republican who voted against
the Bush tax cuts. (Also the little lamented Sen. Lincoln Chafee, who
later left the Republican Party.) Now McCain claims he opposed the tax
cuts because they didn't include enough spending cuts. But that wasn't
what he said at the time.

To the contrary, in 2001, McCain said he was voting against Bush's tax
cuts based on the idiotic talking point of the Democrats. "I cannot in
good conscience," McCain said, "support a tax cut in which so many of
the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of
middle-class Americans who need tax relief."

McCain started and fanned the vicious anti-Bush myth that, before the
2000 South Carolina primary, the Bush campaign made phone calls to
voters calling McCain a "liar, cheat and a fraud" and accusing him of
having an illegitimate black child.

On the thin reed of a hearsay account, McCain immediately blamed the
calls on Bush. "I'm calling on my good friend George Bush," McCain said,
"to stop this now. He comes from a better family. He knows better than
this."

Bush denied that his campaign had anything to do with the alleged calls
and, in a stunningly magnanimous act, ordered his campaign to release
the script of the calls being made in South Carolina.

Bush asked McCain to do the same for his calls implying that Bush was an
anti-Catholic bigot, but McCain refused. Instead, McCain responded with
a campaign commercial calling Bush a liar on the order of Bill Clinton:

MCCAIN: His ad twists the truth like Clinton. We're all pretty tired of
that.

ANNOUNCER: Do we really want another politician in the White House
America can't trust?

After massive investigations by the Los Angeles Times and investigative
reporter Byron York, among others, it turned out that neither of the
alleged calls had ever been made by the Bush campaign -- nor, it
appeared, by anyone else. There was no evidence that any such calls had
ever been made, which is unheard of when hundreds of thousands of
"robo-calls" are being left on answering machines across the state.

And yet, to this day, the media weep with McCain over Bush's underhanded
tactics in the 2000 South Carolina primary.

In fact, the most vicious attack in the 2000 South Carolina primary came
from McCain -- and not against his opponent.

Seeking even more favorable press from The New York Times, McCain
launched an unprovoked attack against the Rev. Jerry Falwell and Pat
Robertson, calling them "agents of intolerance." Unlike the phantom
"black love child" calls, there's documentary evidence of this smear
campaign.

To ensure he would get full media coverage for that little gem, McCain
alerted the networks in advance that he planned to attack their favorite
whipping boys. Newspaper editors across the country stood in awe of
McCain's raw bravery. The New York Times praised him in an editorial
that said the Republican Party "has for too long been tied to the
cramped ideology of the Falwells and the Robertsons."

Though McCain generally votes pro-life -- as his Arizona constituency
requires -- he embraces the loony lingo of the pro-abortion set,
repeatedly assuring his pals in the media that he opposes the repeal of
Roe v. Wade because it would force women to undergo "illegal and
dangerous operations."

Come to think of it, Dole is a million times better than McCain. Why not
run him again?

Snopes didn't like it.

http://tinyurl.com/3cxksu





On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:56:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message
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Doesn't change the fact that Billary was the most sold out Whitehouse
in history, And will be even worse if we let them in again..

----------------------

Somebody sent this to me today. Can't vouch for it's accuracy:

If Hillary Clinton wins in 2008 and,

Bill Clinton is 'appointed' to fill her Senate Seat and,

Either live to retire (together or alone)

They would get....


Two US Presidential retirement checks,
Two US Senate retirement Checks,
A retirement check from the State of Arkansas.


About the only thing they MIGHT NOT get is...

A Social Security Check....

But I wouldn't bet on it....

I understand ole Bill has earned

$40,000,000 in the past six years.
What a guy!

AND THE REST OF THE STORY...



Hilarious Rotten Clinton,

As a New York State Senator, now comes under the
'Congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan,' which means that even if she
never gets re-elected,

She STILL receives her Congressional salary until she dies.

(Would it not be nice if all Americans

Were pension eligible after only 4 years?)

If Bill outlives her,

He then inherits HER salary until HE dies.

He is already getting his Presidential salary until he dies.



If Hillary outlives Bill,

She also gets HIS salary until she dies.



Guess who pays for that?

It's common knowledge that in order for her

To establish NY residency,

They purchased a million dollar-plus house

In upscale Chappaqua, New York .


Makes sense!

They are entitled to Secret Service protection for life.

Still makes sense.

Here is where it becomes interesting.



Their mortgage payments hover at around

$10,000 per month.



BUT, an extra residence 'had' to be built

Within the acreage to house

The Secret Service agents.

The Clinton's charge

The Federal government $10,000 monthly rent

For the use of that extra residence,

Which is about equal to their mortgage payment.



This means that we,

The taxpayers,



Are paying the Clinton's

Salary,

Mortgage,

Transportation,

Safety and security,



As well as the salaries

For their 12 man staff

-- and,

This is all perfectly legal!


----------------

Eisboch




--
Mackerel Snapper

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:20:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Jan 24, 4:18 pm, hk wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Red Bluefish" wrote in message
news More class and race wars from Hillary Clinton (D - Earmark)

What a country!!!

http://tinyurl.com/24ewfg

Pastor Got $1.5 Million in Clinton Earmarks Before Endorsement

Luckily, no other candidate has every done such a thing.
Otherwise,
we
could
have a plague on our hands.

Let's see...the absolute slimeball who runs Blackwater contributes
to
the GOP and gets how many millions in return in taxpayer dollars for
his
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Conclude what you want, you are alone here...
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As are you. Present your data.


No, he's not. A few people here are known for lying. Justwait...isn't one
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:20:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Jan 24, 4:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

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On Jan 24, 4:18 pm, hk wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Red Bluefish" wrote in message
news More class and race wars from Hillary Clinton (D - Earmark)

What a country!!!

http://tinyurl.com/24ewfg

Pastor Got $1.5 Million in Clinton Earmarks Before Endorsement

Luckily, no other candidate has every done such a thing.
Otherwise,
we
could
have a plague on our hands.

Let's see...the absolute slimeball who runs Blackwater contributes
to
the GOP and gets how many millions in return in taxpayer dollars
for
his
Team'o'Thugs and their Toys? :-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Doesn't change the fact that Billary was the most sold out
Whitehouse
in history, And will be even worse if we let them in again..

================

Fact? Got anything to back that up with?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't debate with dumbasses... shut up...

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just
want to see your data so I can learn more.- Hide quoted text -

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I would prefer if you would just go away..

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Conclude what you want, you are alone here...
==================


As are you. Present your data.


No, he's not. A few people here are known for lying. Justwait...isn't one
of them.
--
Mackerel Snapper


You must have the data he needs. Let's see it. Before this thread gets so
long that you can't follow it, do you know what he needs to prove by showing
data?

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:



As well as the salaries

For their 12 man staff

-- and,

This is all perfectly legal!


----------------

Eisboch

While it is a hell of a story, it like most email legends is false.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/landlord.asp


I know. But I figure it's just as valid a "story" to repeat as many of the
falsehoods and twisted tales told by those partners in crime, Mr. and Mrs.
Clinton and those who are duped into believing them.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:



As well as the salaries

For their 12 man staff

-- and,

This is all perfectly legal!


----------------

Eisboch

While it is a hell of a story, it like most email legends is false.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/landlord.asp


I know. But I figure it's just as valid a "story" to repeat as many of
the falsehoods and twisted tales told by those partners in crime, Mr. and
Mrs. Clinton and those who are duped into believing them.

Eisboch



Apparently, all politicians secretly take creative writing classes. I'm
still trying to figure out how Pakistan has the nuclear weapons which it
doesn't have. Or does. Or doesn't. And, how genocide in Iraq requires our
attention, but genocide in Africa does not.

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:13:06 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:



As well as the salaries

For their 12 man staff

-- and,

This is all perfectly legal!


----------------

Eisboch

While it is a hell of a story, it like most email legends is false.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/landlord.asp


I know. But I figure it's just as valid a "story" to repeat as many of the
falsehoods and twisted tales told by those partners in crime, Mr. and Mrs.
Clinton and those who are duped into believing them.

Eisboch


Well hell yes!
--
Mackerel Snapper

Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:


As well as the salaries

For their 12 man staff

-- and,

This is all perfectly legal!


----------------

Eisboch
While it is a hell of a story, it like most email legends is false.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/landlord.asp


I know. But I figure it's just as valid a "story" to repeat as many of the
falsehoods and twisted tales told by those partners in crime, Mr. and Mrs.
Clinton and those who are duped into believing them.

Eisboch



Hillary makes Bill look decent. It would be scary to have her in the
white house

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:48:09 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:



One of the two best election tools the
dems have, the other being outright voter fraud.

Uh-huh, considering the Republican push to find voter fraud (remember all
those US Attorney firings?), you'd think they would have found some,
wouldn't you? In this country, voter fraud, be it Republican or
Democrat, is quite rare.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/wa...pagewanted=all

wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:48:09 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:



One of the two best election tools the
dems have, the other being outright voter fraud.

Uh-huh, considering the Republican push to find voter fraud (remember all
those US Attorney firings?), you'd think they would have found some,
wouldn't you? In this country, voter fraud, be it Republican or
Democrat, is quite rare.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/wa...pagewanted=all


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