Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Ahh, yes. If it isn't within the experience of some here, well, it can't
be possible. Perhaps if you weren't such a complete jackoff, you might get
on a list, too, get a screener copy of a new movie, and see the crawl
across the bottom of the screen with the copyright message.

Why?

Eisboch




Why what?

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

Steve


Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet
updates and shove 'em.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

Steve


Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet
updates and shove 'em.

Eisboch




Why is that such an issue? Most updates are handled automatically.

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On Jan 30, 10:43 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:
If you want a BluRay player, I'm curious why someone would buy a
BluRay player other than a PS3 for $399? The PS3 works great as a
BluRay player. It's not slow, doesn't cut out, doesn't have *any* of
the problems you mentioned above and uses a very fast microprocessor.
By far, the very fastest available in any home computer actually.
And as a bonus, besides watching BluRay discs, you can play PS2 or
PS3
games and (if you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse) even use it as a
general purpose computer running Linux. It's the best deal going in
home entertainment if you ask me.
Steve
I didn't know PS3 played Blu-Ray until after I had purchased the disk
players, mentioned the issues to my daughter and she informed me about
PS3
which she has for her two boys. I have no interest in video games, so
it
didn't occur to me to even check them out. Except .... due to the
discussion, she let me borrow their "Wii" system. What a blast!
You hold a controller in your hand and physically go through the
motions of
bowling or swinging a baseball bat, golf club, tennis racket, etc. I
got a
kick out of it.

Back to Blue-Ray. Does the Playstation 3 also play regular DVDs and
CDs?
Also, my daughter said it had operational issues similar to those I've
experienced with the Sharp and Sony players when playing a Blu-Ray
disk.
I know the Blu-Ray disks hold a huge amount of data compared to
regular DVD.
I wonder if finding, reading and displaying the data is the reason for
it's
slow motionness.

Another expensive lesson learned, although once they are playing, the
picture quality is outstanding.

Eisboch
Have Guitar Hero for PS3 for my kids. Seeing how I play guitar, I
didn't think I'd like it, because it's not really like playing for
real, but what a blast! EVERYBODY that goes down to the gameroom and
tries it is addicted! Last Saturday, I was in my brewhouse getting
ready to make a batch of ale and my friend came in and kept trying to
hurry me so we could play!

My son has that game. Caught him bringing in the 'drum set' to go
along with the guitar and microphone .
Next thing I knew he had three friends down there 'playing' and singing
along. Maybe if I heard some 60s music it wouldn't be too bad.
He really should spend that time looking for a job.

Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself!


If dirty dan did that, he'd have to put on at least three condoms to avoid
contaminating himself.


I've just added this version of Dingy Dan to the septic tank. Starting to
stink down there....I'll have to as some yeast to break it down.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
.. .

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

Steve


Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet
updates and shove 'em.

Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me,
I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes
after I buy something, for free.

Steve

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
. ..

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

Steve


Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet
updates and shove 'em.

Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me,
I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes
after I buy something, for free.

Steve

In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the
public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public
can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not.

One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They
constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems.

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

Steve


Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet
updates and shove 'em.

Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me,
I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes
after I buy something, for free.

Steve

In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the
public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public
can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not.

One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They
constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems.

Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be
abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be.
Just don't be an early adopter.

Steve

On Jan 31, 3:31*pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:40:26 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:28:35 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie
is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:24:56 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

Unlike a conventional DVD player, the Blu-Ray players are
basically
controlled by an internal and v-e-r-y slow microprocessor.
Running Java, I believe. *I'm guessing that sluggishness might be
DRM
related. *The Blu-Ray standard requires the software to do a lot
more
than just play the movie.
So...I should wait a while before buying a Blu-Ray player and
another
restored copy of Casablanca in black and white?
I would. *I can't believe people can tolerate technology that has
bugs and
problems. *I was reading the manuals last night and you are supposed
to log
on to the manufacturer's websites and download firmware updates from
time to
time. *That's too much. *If it doesn't work as advertised out of the
box, I
have little use for it.

I re-hooked up the regular, $99 dollar DVD/CD player to my system..
The amp
does an "upscaling" of the video image and, although not high
definition, it
looks fine on most regular DVD's.

Now, what the heck do I do with all the free Blu-Ray disks that are
supposed
to be sent? *(I also bought another 46" LCD *HD television and
between it
and two Blu-Ray players, I have 15 free movies *coming plus got a
$300
rebate ... $200 at time of sale and another $100 when I send all the
paperwork in.)

I'll keep the Blu-Ray systems, but will also keep the old player
hooked up.

Eisboch

Well.

I don't mind downloading updates from time to time. Hell, I do it all
the time with Windoze, and I've already downloaded two software
updates
for my Garmin 4208 and various other electronic devices.

My real problem with buying yet another device to play programming on
a
TV set is that the programming itself is so ****-poor. That's why I
mentioned Casablanca, of course. The "restored" B&W version of that
classic is gorgeous, but it isn't even wide screen. :)

Like most folks, we have a couple of hundred moves on DVD. We watch
very
*few of them more than a couple of times, and I would state without
equivocation that at leat 95% of the new movies coming out these days
are absolute crap, not worthy of watching. Of the ones that are, very
few I have seen incorporate any sort of visual effects that would
take
advantage of what I see on the Blu-Ray displays at the video stores.

I'm certainly not anti-technology, but I'd want to see some really
good
programming available that I'd want to watch a few times before
blowing
cash on Blu-Ray hardware.
Damn, I feel horrible. We've got about ten movies, mostly Disney stuff
for
the grandkids and a few Christmas presents.

Why would anyone buy a couple hundred movies on DVD?

Anyone?
That is why God invented Netflix.
We use the Blockbuster's version, which is a good deal for us 'cause
there's a Bb about three blocks away. I guess if I were going to
Madagascar
for twelve years, I might buy a couple hundred movies to take along.

I stopped using Blockbuster when they wanted to charge me a late fee,
when I returned the movie at 12:05. *I was 5 min. late and they wanted
to charged me double the rental fee for 5 days.
They stopped that.
--
John H

Yup, they did, but they also lost a lot of customers forever.

Blockbuster hardly ever had any movies we wanted to see. We haven't been
in one of the chain's stores for many years. I checked out NetFlix, but
was not impressed with its "backlist." We are on a legitimate screener
list, though, and get a lot of DVDs that way. A couple of times during
the film, you see a copyright message crawling across the bottom of the
screen, but otherwise they are the same as the DVDs that are released
after the movies finish up in theaters, usually sans the fancy
packaging. Unfortunately, only the current release stuff comes on
screeners. The older movies we both like we usually buy on line.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hey, everybody, I TOLD you so!!!
Harry is MUCH to good for Blockbuster's movies.....

What I find hilarious is he tries SO hard to come off as better than
anybody else, with far more exquisite tastes in every type of culture,
then when he posts here, he shows his true colors with low life name
calling, lies about others, untrue accusations and the like. Plus it's
all lies anyway. Lobster boat, enough said.

On Jan 31, 9:01*pm, HK wrote:
JG2U wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:31:34 -0500, HK wrote:

JG2U wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:20:30 -0500, DK wrote:

HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
news:qj84q3dcsmm3v3lcfdkje99gqhhnftedf5@4ax. com...
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:40:26 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:28:35 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:24:56 -0500, HK
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
et...
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

Unlike a conventional DVD player, the Blu-Ray players are
basically
controlled by an internal and v-e-r-y slow microprocessor..
Running Java, I believe. *I'm guessing that sluggishness
might be DRM
related. *The Blu-Ray standard requires the software to do a
lot more
than just play the movie.
So...I should wait a while before buying a Blu-Ray player and
another
restored copy of Casablanca in black and white?
I would. *I can't believe people can tolerate technology that
has bugs and
problems. *I was reading the manuals last night and you are
supposed to log
on to the manufacturer's websites and download firmware updates
from time to
time. *That's too much. *If it doesn't work as advertised out
of the box, I
have little use for it.

I re-hooked up the regular, $99 dollar DVD/CD player to my
system. The amp
does an "upscaling" of the video image and, although not high
definition, it
looks fine on most regular DVD's.

Now, what the heck do I do with all the free Blu-Ray disks that
are supposed
to be sent? *(I also bought another 46" LCD *HD television and
between it
and two Blu-Ray players, I have 15 free movies *coming plus got
a $300
rebate ... $200 at time of sale and another $100 when I send
all the
paperwork in.)

I'll keep the Blu-Ray systems, but will also keep the old
player hooked up.

Eisboch

Well.

I don't mind downloading updates from time to time. Hell, I do
it all
the time with Windoze, and I've already downloaded two software
updates
for my Garmin 4208 and various other electronic devices.

My real problem with buying yet another device to play
programming on a
TV set is that the programming itself is so ****-poor. That's why I
mentioned Casablanca, of course. The "restored" B&W version of that
classic is gorgeous, but it isn't even wide screen. :)

Like most folks, we have a couple of hundred moves on DVD. We
watch very
*few of them more than a couple of times, and I would state without
equivocation that at leat 95% of the new movies coming out these
days
are absolute crap, not worthy of watching. Of the ones that are,
very
few I have seen incorporate any sort of visual effects that
would take
advantage of what I see on the Blu-Ray displays at the video
stores.

I'm certainly not anti-technology, but I'd want to see some
really good
programming available that I'd want to watch a few times before
blowing
cash on Blu-Ray hardware.
Damn, I feel horrible. We've got about ten movies, mostly Disney
stuff for
the grandkids and a few Christmas presents.

Why would anyone buy a couple hundred movies on DVD?

Anyone?
That is why God invented Netflix.
We use the Blockbuster's version, which is a good deal for us 'cause
there's a Bb about three blocks away. I guess if I were going to
Madagascar
for twelve years, I might buy a couple hundred movies to take along.

I stopped using Blockbuster when they wanted to charge me a late fee,
when I returned the movie at 12:05. *I was 5 min. late and they wanted
to charged me double the rental fee for 5 days.
They stopped that.
--
John H
Yup, they did, but they also lost a lot of customers forever.

Blockbuster hardly ever had any movies we wanted to see. We haven't been
in one of the chain's stores for many years. I checked out NetFlix, but
was not impressed with its "backlist." We are on a legitimate screener
list, though, and get a lot of DVDs that way. A couple of times during
the film, you see a copyright message crawling across the bottom of the
screen, but otherwise they are the same as the DVDs that are released
after the movies finish up in theaters, usually sans the fancy
packaging. Unfortunately, only the current release stuff comes on
screeners. The older movies we both like we usually buy on line.

I should start a book to catalog Harry's bull****.

Too late. *It's already been done. *It's called "rec.boats".

Ahh, yes. If it isn't within the experience of some here, well, it can't
be possible. Perhaps if you weren't such a complete jackoff, you might
get on a list, too, get a screener copy of a new movie, and see the
crawl across the bottom of the screen with the copyright message.

I wasn't referring to any DVD nonsense.

Perhaps if you were less of a jackoff, you could stay on subject.- Hide quoted text -

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There's that gutter bull****. And you try to act like you're much more
sophisticated than anyone else......

On Jan 31, 9:41*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
.. .

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. *Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. *You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. *I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

Steve

Thank you and I'll tell her. * As for me, they can take their internet
updates and shove 'em.

Eisboch

Why is that such an issue? Most updates are handled automatically.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Try to follow along, Harry. The updates being talked about are for
PS3, and they most certainly are NOT "handled automatically".