On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:31:04 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


He really should spend that time looking for a job.

Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself!


Not cool.
--
John H

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the
public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public
can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not.

One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They
constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems.

Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be
abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be.
Just don't be an early adopter.

Steve


I guess I am just starting to show my age. Computers are a great tool, but
I've just never really got "into" them. It irks me that something that is
advertised and designed to do something (like the Blu-Ray players) require
you to routinely log onto the Internet, go to the player's website, download
firmware updates, either burn them to CD-R or copy them to a USB storage
device, then load the firmware update into the Blu-Ray player, just to watch
something that it would not originally read. Never have had to do that
with regular DVD players.

"Ol' Blue Eyes" pretty much sums up my POV on computers and a computer
focused lifestyle:

http://americancomedynetwork.com/ani...l?bit_id=25239

Eisboch

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

Steve


Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet
updates and shove 'em.

Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me,
I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes
after I buy something, for free.

Steve

In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the
public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public
can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not.

One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They
constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems.

Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be
abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be.
Just don't be an early adopter.

Steve

Early adopter, I've been a Dish customer for over ten years.

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:21:09 GMT, Steve wrote:

Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be
abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be.
Just don't be an early adopter.

Updates my ass. It's a way to spy on what you are watching and
listening to. A lot of the slowness is directly related to putting
data into memory for future transfer when it calls home.

Think iTunes. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:21:09 GMT, Steve wrote:

Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be
abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be.
Just don't be an early adopter.

Updates my ass. It's a way to spy on what you are watching and
listening to. A lot of the slowness is directly related to putting
data into memory for future transfer when it calls home.

Think iTunes. :)


Well, everyone wants to know what you are watching. :)

On Jan 31, 6:59*pm, Steve wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

If you want a BluRay player, I'm curious why someone would buy a
BluRay player other than a PS3 for $399? *The PS3 works great as a
BluRay player. *It's not slow, doesn't cut out, doesn't have *any* of
the problems you mentioned above and uses a very fast microprocessor.
By far, the very fastest available in any home computer actually.

And as a bonus, besides watching BluRay discs, you can play PS2 or PS3
games and (if you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse) even use it as a
general purpose computer running Linux. *It's the best deal going in
home entertainment if you ask me.

Steve

I didn't know PS3 played Blu-Ray until after I had purchased the disk
players, *mentioned the issues to my daughter and she informed me about PS3
which she has for her two boys. * I have no interest in video games, so it
didn't occur to me to even check them out. *Except .... * due to the
discussion, she let me borrow their "Wii" system. *What a blast!
You hold a controller in your hand and physically go through the motions of
bowling or swinging a baseball bat, golf club, tennis racket, etc. * I got a
kick out of it.

Back to Blue-Ray. * Does the Playstation 3 also play regular DVDs and CDs?
Also, my daughter said it had operational issues similar to those I've
experienced with the Sharp and Sony players when playing a Blu-Ray disk.
I know the Blu-Ray disks hold a huge amount of data compared to regular DVD.
I wonder if finding, reading and displaying the data is the reason for it's
slow motionness.

Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. *Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. *You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. *I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

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Daughter? My wife it the PS3 nut here It ain't a living space if
there ain't a game station, a karaoke machine and a guitar

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On Jan 31, 6:59 pm, Steve wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
If you want a BluRay player, I'm curious why someone would buy a
BluRay player other than a PS3 for $399? The PS3 works great as a
BluRay player. It's not slow, doesn't cut out, doesn't have *any* of
the problems you mentioned above and uses a very fast microprocessor.
By far, the very fastest available in any home computer actually.
And as a bonus, besides watching BluRay discs, you can play PS2 or PS3
games and (if you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse) even use it as a
general purpose computer running Linux. It's the best deal going in
home entertainment if you ask me.
Steve
I didn't know PS3 played Blu-Ray until after I had purchased the disk
players, mentioned the issues to my daughter and she informed me about PS3
which she has for her two boys. I have no interest in video games, so it
didn't occur to me to even check them out. Except .... due to the
discussion, she let me borrow their "Wii" system. What a blast!
You hold a controller in your hand and physically go through the motions of
bowling or swinging a baseball bat, golf club, tennis racket, etc. I got a
kick out of it.
Back to Blue-Ray. Does the Playstation 3 also play regular DVDs and CDs?
Also, my daughter said it had operational issues similar to those I've
experienced with the Sharp and Sony players when playing a Blu-Ray disk.
I know the Blu-Ray disks hold a huge amount of data compared to regular DVD.
I wonder if finding, reading and displaying the data is the reason for it's
slow motionness.
Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

Steve- Hide quoted text -

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Daughter? My wife it the PS3 nut here It ain't a living space if
there ain't a game station, a karaoke machine and a guitar


Everything except books, eh? Are you loogy's brother? ;:)

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:31:04 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


He really should spend that time looking for a job.

Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself!


Not cool.
--
John H


So.. do you still think it's cool to disparge family members Johnnyshirt?

On Feb 1, 1:07*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:31:04 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

He really should spend that time looking for a job.

Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself!

Not cool.
--
John H

So.. do you still think it's cool to disparge family members Johnnyshirt?

That's JimH's job.

On Feb 1, 10:40*am, wrote:
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:43:02 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 31, 9:41*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. *Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. *You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. *I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

Steve

Thank you and I'll tell her. * As for me, they can take their internet
updates and shove 'em.

Eisboch

Why is that such an issue? Most updates are handled automatically.- Hide quoted text -

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Try to follow along, Harry. The updates being talked about are for
PS3, and they most certainly are NOT "handled automatically".

Harry's PS3 gets the updates automatically. Yours must not be as good.- Hide quoted text -

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Well of course not! Everything Harry does, owns, watches, listens to,
where he lives, where he used to live, where he eats, what he eats is
FAR superior to anybody else in the world........