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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch"
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Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to
make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect
it
to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with
newer
discs.

Steve


Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet
updates and shove 'em.

Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me,
I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes
after I buy something, for free.

Steve

In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on
the
public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the
public
can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not.

One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They
constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems.

Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be
abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be.
Just don't be an early adopter.

Steve

Early adopter, I've been a Dish customer for over ten years.

You've used the same receiver for over 10 years? I'm pretty sure that
if you had, the frequency of updates would decrease as the years go
by. But not being intimately familiar with Dish Network, I can't say.
That's too new of a technology for me. lol

Steve

Over the ten years I've had three versions of their receivers. It seems
like biggest problem comes when they try to add new features and screw
something up that in the past worked just fine.

Poor QA, minimal beta testing if any, let the customer weed out the problems
and we'll fix 'em later.

Ah, ok. Well if you don't want to be a beta tester, stick with the
receiver that's gone through the update cycle and is working. When
you switch to the latest receiver, that's being an early adopter in
the Dish Network world. Same thing as when you want the latest, just
released smartphone even though cellphones have been around for years.

Steve

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to
make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect
it
to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the
updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with
newer
discs.

Steve


Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their
internet
updates and shove 'em.

Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for
me,
I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and
fixes
after I buy something, for free.

Steve

In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on
the
public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the
public
can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not.

One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They
constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new
problems.

Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be
abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be.
Just don't be an early adopter.

Steve

Early adopter, I've been a Dish customer for over ten years.

You've used the same receiver for over 10 years? I'm pretty sure that
if you had, the frequency of updates would decrease as the years go
by. But not being intimately familiar with Dish Network, I can't say.
That's too new of a technology for me. lol

Steve

Over the ten years I've had three versions of their receivers. It seems
like biggest problem comes when they try to add new features and screw
something up that in the past worked just fine.

Poor QA, minimal beta testing if any, let the customer weed out the
problems
and we'll fix 'em later.

Ah, ok. Well if you don't want to be a beta tester, stick with the
receiver that's gone through the update cycle and is working. When
you switch to the latest receiver, that's being an early adopter in
the Dish Network world. Same thing as when you want the latest, just
released smartphone even though cellphones have been around for years.

Steve

You don't get it. The "update cycles" are never complete. None of three
receiver models I had have been the "latest and greatest". They were all on
the market at least a year before I had them.

You think it's OK for the consumer to be the beta tester, sorry I do not
agree.

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 01:02:24 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
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Ah, ok. Well if you don't want to be a beta tester, stick with the
receiver that's gone through the update cycle and is working. When
you switch to the latest receiver, that's being an early adopter in
the Dish Network world. Same thing as when you want the latest, just
released smartphone even though cellphones have been around for years.

Steve

You don't get it. The "update cycles" are never complete. None of three
receiver models I had have been the "latest and greatest". They were all on
the market at least a year before I had them.

You think it's OK for the consumer to be the beta tester, sorry I do not
agree.

Well then obviously a year isn't long enough. Try one 3 or 4 years
old if you don't want updates anymore.

Steve

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On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 01:02:24 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
[...]
Ah, ok. Well if you don't want to be a beta tester, stick with the
receiver that's gone through the update cycle and is working. When
you switch to the latest receiver, that's being an early adopter in
the Dish Network world. Same thing as when you want the latest, just
released smartphone even though cellphones have been around for years.

Steve

You don't get it. The "update cycles" are never complete. None of three
receiver models I had have been the "latest and greatest". They were all
on
the market at least a year before I had them.

You think it's OK for the consumer to be the beta tester, sorry I do not
agree.

Well then obviously a year isn't long enough. Try one 3 or 4 years
old if you don't want updates anymore.

Steve

I'll consider your advice.

On Feb 1, 10:33*am, HK wrote:
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On Jan 31, 6:59 pm, Steve wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
If you want a BluRay player, I'm curious why someone would buy a
BluRay player other than a PS3 for $399? *The PS3 works great as a
BluRay player. *It's not slow, doesn't cut out, doesn't have *any* of
the problems you mentioned above and uses a very fast microprocessor.
By far, the very fastest available in any home computer actually.
And as a bonus, besides watching BluRay discs, you can play PS2 or PS3
games and (if you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse) even use it as a
general purpose computer running Linux. *It's the best deal going in
home entertainment if you ask me.
Steve
I didn't know PS3 played Blu-Ray until after I had purchased the disk
players, *mentioned the issues to my daughter and she informed me about PS3
which she has for her two boys. * I have no interest in video games, so it
didn't occur to me to even check them out. *Except .... * due to the
discussion, she let me borrow their "Wii" system. *What a blast!
You hold a controller in your hand and physically go through the motions of
bowling or swinging a baseball bat, golf club, tennis racket, etc. * I got a
kick out of it.
Back to Blue-Ray. * Does the Playstation 3 also play regular DVDs and CDs?
Also, my daughter said it had operational issues similar to those I've
experienced with the Sharp and Sony players when playing a Blu-Ray disk.
I know the Blu-Ray disks hold a huge amount of data compared to regular DVD.
I wonder if finding, reading and displaying the data is the reason for it's
slow motionness.
Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. *Tell your daughter to make
sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. *You have to connect it
to the internet and let it update itself. *I know one of the updates
dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer
discs.

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Daughter? My wife it the PS3 nut here It ain't a living space if
there ain't a game station, a karaoke machine and a guitar

Everything except books, eh? Are you loogy's brother? *;:)- Hide quoted text -

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I must read a hell of a lot more than you do, I don't own over 200
dvds.....

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On Feb 1, 10:33 am, HK wrote:


I must read a hell of a lot more than you do, I don't own over 200
dvds.....


I doubt you read at all, actually.

HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 1, 10:33 am, HK wrote:


I must read a hell of a lot more than you do, I don't own over 200
dvds.....


I doubt you read at all, actually.

Poor sentence structure. You WRITE for a living, Krause?

On Feb 2, 11:54*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 1, 10:33 am, HK wrote:

I must read a hell of a lot more than you do, I don't own over 200
dvds.....

I doubt you read at all, actually.

Hey, tell us how you let some people stay at your Florida home after
Katrina. Then tell us how you don't know crap about Florida's
Homestead Exemption Act because you haven't had a house there in
"years". Then tell us about the condo you own......
Then tell us about your lobster boat
Then tell us about your double Dr. wife
Then tell us about your Yale degree.