On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:32:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I hope you know I was just busting your chops.

Duly noted at the time.

As for the reduction gears on the GB ... I don't know. The original manual
is on the boat and not handy to look up.
But, I will, next time I get aboard.

No problem - just curious.
Well, it turns out I made a jerk of myself. The problem was the buyer's
broker who was supposed to have produced a settlement sheet, a Marine Bill
of Sale, and was responsible for the financial aspects of the deal. The
agency I was talking to was only dealing with the USCG documentation
transfer and had nothing to do with the boat sale. I didn't know that,
thanks to the tardiness of the buyer's broker.

I would say the opposite - you did the right thing.

So, now we are back on course and still expect to complete the transaction
on Friday.

When is the new boat coming?

And what is it?ff

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:15:50 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:04:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds.

And I can't see your center console going 50 mph in the Gulf Stream.

:-)

Good point.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:15:50 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:04:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds.
And I can't see your center console going 50 mph in the Gulf Stream.

:-)

Good point.



You certainly can go 50 mph in the right deep vee CC in the Gulf Stream
off Florida on the right days. A lot of the SKA guys run that fast or
faster in the Stream.

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:55:35 -0500, HK wrote:

You certainly can go 50 mph in the right deep vee CC in the Gulf Stream
off Florida on the right days.

I hope you're not implying that your LTP is the right CC.

A lot of the SKA guys run that fast or
faster in the Stream.

With 33 foot deep-V hulls and light to moderate wind. Those days are
about once a week this time of year.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years..


I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended,
and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the
flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer?

If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that
you didn't get that barge above hull speed much.

That's just about what Mrs.E.'s boat burns running wide open.

Eisboch


Maybe I need a diesel jet drive boat. Funny aside. Custom Weld had their
new deisel boat on display at the Seattle show. At least that is what the
big sign on the side of the boat said. $111k and you think the vinyl guy
would run diesel through a spell checker. Mine running wide open is about
20 gallons an hour. Since I average 2-2.5 mpg for a days running, I
definately burn more fuel than Harry.

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:27:52 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:47:42 -0500, HK wrote:

They're really the ideal fishing boat for this area

If you stay in the Patuxent River most of the time. Most of the boats
fishing mid-Chesapeake Bay are a good bit more substantial.


Bull****.

You must be fishing either in "De Nile" or on the fairest of fair
weather days. Last September and October we were seeing boats that
were mostly in the 30 to 40 ft range, with a few hardy souls in 24
footers - nothing smaller when the wind is blowing.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:22:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:54:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message

On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn
just under 2 gph.

Curious huh?


Yes. Touchdown for diesel power!

Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less
horsepower.

Case closed.

Well, not really.

I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds.

Case reopened. :)

I wonder what the burn rate would be at the high end of the RPM range
for, say, 45 mph on a go fast diesel powered boat.

Bet 'cha it's about the same.

Then again, how would I prove it. :)

I don't know. The Egg Harbor, at about 30 kts, burned about 40 gallons
per
hour (combined, twin 420hp Cats).
But .... going back to the GB ..... you have to consider the weight that
the little 120 hp diesel is moving.

Absoutely - diesels are much more efficient than gas engines.

For me, I'd sacrifice the extra weight penalty if I could get 200 hp
outboard diesels - in a heart beat.

May not need that much HP with a diesel. Just a stronger overdrive gearbox.
As to efficiency, I think they are getting about 7 gallon an hour burn rate
on some of the 24' diesel jet boats. So probably in the 4 mpg range.
Here's one build for Florida delivery.
http://www.precisionweldboats.com/bo...ll18Thomas.htm
Would be good also in the shallows of Chesapeake Bay.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:55:35 -0500, HK wrote:

You certainly can go 50 mph in the right deep vee CC in the Gulf Stream
off Florida on the right days.

I hope you're not implying that your LTP is the right CC.

A lot of the SKA guys run that fast or
faster in the Stream.

With 33 foot deep-V hulls and light to moderate wind. Those days are
about once a week this time of year.



So? What's your point? That the majority of big time SKA'ers don't run
big deep vee's that can run 50 mph to the Stream, in it and back? Or
that they can't do it part of the year when the weather won't allow it?

As I stated, you can certainly go 50 mph in the right deep vee CC in the
Gulf Stream off Florida on the right days.

You want to tell me I'm wrong about that?

If you do, you're just bullsh*tting. Again.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:27:52 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:47:42 -0500, HK wrote:

They're really the ideal fishing boat for this area
If you stay in the Patuxent River most of the time. Most of the boats
fishing mid-Chesapeake Bay are a good bit more substantial.


Bull****.

You must be fishing either in "De Nile" or on the fairest of fair
weather days. Last September and October we were seeing boats that
were mostly in the 30 to 40 ft range, with a few hardy souls in 24
footers - nothing smaller when the wind is blowing.



Well, good for you. What you saw and $4.00 will get you a cup of coffee,
and has about as much relevance for Chesapeake Bay as your comment about
running 50 mph to and in the Stream in a big CC with twins or trips.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:22:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:54:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn
just under 2 gph.

Curious huh?
Yes. Touchdown for diesel power!

Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less
horsepower.

Case closed.
Well, not really.

I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds.

Case reopened. :)

I wonder what the burn rate would be at the high end of the RPM range
for, say, 45 mph on a go fast diesel powered boat.

Bet 'cha it's about the same.

Then again, how would I prove it. :)
I don't know. The Egg Harbor, at about 30 kts, burned about 40 gallons
per
hour (combined, twin 420hp Cats).
But .... going back to the GB ..... you have to consider the weight that
the little 120 hp diesel is moving.
Absoutely - diesels are much more efficient than gas engines.

For me, I'd sacrifice the extra weight penalty if I could get 200 hp
outboard diesels - in a heart beat.

May not need that much HP with a diesel. Just a stronger overdrive gearbox.
As to efficiency, I think they are getting about 7 gallon an hour burn rate
on some of the 24' diesel jet boats. So probably in the 4 mpg range.
Here's one build for Florida delivery.
http://www.precisionweldboats.com/bo...ll18Thomas.htm
Would be good also in the shallows of Chesapeake Bay.




You'd get the crap pounded out of you in that hull. Not enough vee. And
most of the "fishable" Bay isn't shallow enough to require that sort of
boat. Now, up on the Susquehanna Flats, the water gets thin, but just
about everyone runs mod vees up there, and flat bottom boats, too.