Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:

I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few
years..


I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season
ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process,
according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your
string trimmer?

If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is
that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much.


Most of the fishing spots I frequent aren't that far from the launch
ramps I use, 10-15 miles would be the furthest, I'd guess. The Bay is
less than 10 miles across from me, and when I trailer down to the
Patuxent to the launch ramp there, there are dozens of spots to fish
within five miles of that ramp. I don't see any reason to run a boat
at high speeds for two or three or four hours to catch the same sort
of fish I can catch locally.

When I lived in Florida, I mostly fished in the ICW and the ocean
inlets and within a mile or two of shore. Great fishing. I did run
offshore for the reefs, but, again, there was no need to do that when
you could catch a 40-pound kingfish 300 yards off the beach.

Logical explanation as to why those numbers are as they are. I do think
you have too much boat for the job, though.


We have a lot of hard chop up here. The 21' Parker deep vee handles it
better than the 21' mod vee. Two of the very best guides on the Bay have
similar boats. They're really the ideal fishing boat for this area,
assuming you are going out solo or with a couple of other guys.

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:42:22 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:01:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:55:35 -0500, "Jim"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:

I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few
years..


I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season
ended,
and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to
the
flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer?

If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that
you
didn't get that barge above hull speed much.

That's about what my ETEC gets WOT.

Oil? :-)

Huh?

Just a dig, notice the :-)

Sorry - just slow on the uptake this morning.

It was the Paulbots and their mind control rays at Town Hall.

Tool a while to shake it off. :)

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:32:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn
just under 2 gph.

Curious huh?

Yes. Touchdown for diesel power!

Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less
horsepower.

Case closed.

Well, not really.

I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds.

Case reopened. :)



Now wait a cottin' pickin' minute. Your're getting as slippery as Harry.

Nobody talked about maximum speed.

We were comparing fuel burn rates *at* 8-9 kts. and the efficiency of
doing so.
Your Etec, with what? 200hp? is moving a *much* lighter boat at 9 kts,
burning roughly the same amount of fuel as a 120 hp diesel pushing a 30,000
lb boat at 8 kts.

Plus .... (hehehe) let me know when your Etec will need a rebuild. At
6000 hrs, the little Leyman diesel in the GB is about halfway through it's
service life before rebuild according to American Diesel.

I do not dispute that - you are spot on.

I was just curious about max fuel rate on a diesel compared to gas
engine at the same WOT speed.

Let me put it this way - if there was a 200 hp diesel outboard
available, would it be more efficient at 45 mph than a gas engine at
the same speed.

Another curiosity question - what's the reduction ratio on the
transmission for the GB?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:42:22 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:01:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:55:35 -0500, "Jim"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:

I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few
years..


I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season
ended,
and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to
the
flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer?

If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is
that
you
didn't get that barge above hull speed much.

That's about what my ETEC gets WOT.

Oil? :-)

Huh?

Just a dig, notice the :-)

Sorry - just slow on the uptake this morning.

It was the Paulbots and their mind control rays at Town Hall.

Tool a while to shake it off. :)

Take two aspirins and call your doc in the morning.

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:38:38 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn
just under 2 gph.

Curious huh?
Yes. Touchdown for diesel power!

Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less
horsepower.

Case closed.
Well, not really.

I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds.

Case reopened. :)



Now wait a cottin' pickin' minute. Your're getting as slippery as Harry.

Nobody talked about maximum speed.

We were comparing fuel burn rates *at* 8-9 kts. and the efficiency of
doing so.
Your Etec, with what? 200hp? is moving a *much* lighter boat at 9 kts,
burning roughly the same amount of fuel as a 120 hp diesel pushing a 30,000
lb boat at 8 kts.

Plus .... (hehehe) let me know when your Etec will need a rebuild. At
6000 hrs, the little Leyman diesel in the GB is about halfway through it's
service life before rebuild according to American Diesel.

I want to see SWS or Harry spend the night in their boat.

Been there - done that.

24 hour striper tournament in 2001.

Took a nap on the front deck. :)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:32:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn
just under 2 gph.

Curious huh?

Yes. Touchdown for diesel power!

Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less
horsepower.

Case closed.

Well, not really.

I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds.

Case reopened. :)



Now wait a cottin' pickin' minute. Your're getting as slippery as Harry.

Nobody talked about maximum speed.

We were comparing fuel burn rates *at* 8-9 kts. and the efficiency of
doing so.
Your Etec, with what? 200hp? is moving a *much* lighter boat at 9 kts,
burning roughly the same amount of fuel as a 120 hp diesel pushing a
30,000
lb boat at 8 kts.

Plus .... (hehehe) let me know when your Etec will need a rebuild. At
6000 hrs, the little Leyman diesel in the GB is about halfway through it's
service life before rebuild according to American Diesel.

I do not dispute that - you are spot on.

I was just curious about max fuel rate on a diesel compared to gas
engine at the same WOT speed.

Let me put it this way - if there was a 200 hp diesel outboard
available, would it be more efficient at 45 mph than a gas engine at
the same speed.

Another curiosity question - what's the reduction ratio on the
transmission for the GB?

No question about it. You can look up the BTU numbers of gas vs. diesel

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:45:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

All you have to do is look up fuel burn rates versus
RPM for the Yamaha 150 four stroke.

Let me take a guess: 15 gph at WOT, 7.5 gph at 70% of WOT.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:38:38 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn
just under 2 gph.

Curious huh?
Yes. Touchdown for diesel power!

Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less
horsepower.

Case closed.
Well, not really.

I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds.

Case reopened. :)


Now wait a cottin' pickin' minute. Your're getting as slippery as Harry.

Nobody talked about maximum speed.

We were comparing fuel burn rates *at* 8-9 kts. and the efficiency of
doing so.
Your Etec, with what? 200hp? is moving a *much* lighter boat at 9 kts,
burning roughly the same amount of fuel as a 120 hp diesel pushing a 30,000
lb boat at 8 kts.

Plus .... (hehehe) let me know when your Etec will need a rebuild. At
6000 hrs, the little Leyman diesel in the GB is about halfway through it's
service life before rebuild according to American Diesel.
I want to see SWS or Harry spend the night in their boat.

Been there - done that.

24 hour striper tournament in 2001.

Took a nap on the front deck. :)

Yes, but was it in January in the snow?

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:04:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds.

And I can't see your center console going 50 mph in the Gulf Stream.

:-)

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:28:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

For me, I'd sacrifice the extra weight penalty if I could get 200 hp
outboard diesels - in a heart beat.

Call 1-800-KAREN-DOWNUNDER