Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:50:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Feb 3, 3:38?am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:24:52 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:55?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.
Too bad.
Now, onto other boats.
http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm
http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458
http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt
You had previously expressed some interest in:
http://www.pacificskiffs.com/
Off the table as well?
Not really. ?I'm probably going to take a ride up to Black Lab next
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Are you coming out to Marysville?

I have that on the list - certainly not in the next couple of weeks,
but towards the end of Feb.

Depends on what I find up at Black Lab.

The thought has been running around in my head about having a custom
boat built because, to be honest, I can't find a boat that has
everything I want done the way I want it.

Everything seems to be a compromise.

Or maybe I'm just getting old and cranky. :)

It is possible that it is both, the boat is a compromise and you are
getting old and cranky.

"HK" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.

I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!



That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?



Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha’s - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha’s - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha’s - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC’s - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC’s — TBA


Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.


Equate fuel burn to insanity. Feel free to have the good Doctor K help you
out with this one.

On Feb 3, 5:54�am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:50:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 3, 3:38?am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:24:52 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:55?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

You had previously expressed some interest in:

http://www.pacificskiffs.com/

Off the table as well?

Not really. ?I'm probably going to take a ride up to Black Lab next
week and see exactly what kind of custom work they can do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are you coming out to Marysville?

I have that on the list - certainly not in the next couple of weeks,
but towards the end of Feb.

Depends on what I find up at Black Lab.

The thought has been running around in my head about having a custom
boat built because, to be honest, I can't find a boat that has
everything I want done the way I want it.

Everything seems to be a compromise.

Or maybe I'm just getting old and cranky. �:)- Hide quoted text -

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I'm reasonably acquainted with the folks at Pacific Skiffs (Pacific
Boats). It would be quite likely that they would be able to customize
one of their standard models to your exact specifications, but my
guess is that it would be more difficult to change the hull itself
substantially. They use some really thick aluminum, in huge sheets,
and it is cut to shape by another firm with a plasma cutter.
Reprogramming the plasma cutter for a one-off would probably be pretty
expensive, and then there's always the risk that the finished, untried
product might behave in some unpredicted manner. However, that's
merely a somewhat-informed impression and I could easily be wrong.

As far as superstructure, accessories, etc I know they can be quite
flexible and innovative. They were meeting some sales resistance on
one model because it didn't have a head, and lo and behold suddenly a
compartment appeared in the port forequarter of the pilothouse with
room for a marine toilet. The head is down in the bilge, so there was
almost no loss of space in the pilothouse.

Two huge markets for Pacfic Boats are the Alaska charter fishing
industry and boats built for the company's original purpose- tenders
for purse seiners.

For the second year in a row our regional Salmon-derby series (12
derbies throughout the year) will be awarding a Pacific Boats 23-
footer as grand prize.

Don't know whether they can build exactly what you want, but I'm
impressed with the quality of their boats. There are a lot of slap-
dash, backyard-welded sort of aluminum boats around and I think
Pacific Boats are in a separate and much higher class than that.

Do they have a dealer on the East Coast?

If not, it might be an opportunity for somebody. Pacific Boats won't
sell into the market looking for the cheapest available aluminum boat,
but should appeal to experienced boaters with the ability to discern
and appreciate a quality build.

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:54:16 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

I've noticed that the Grady website allows you to spec your own boat
and gives the ability to change engine manufacturers. I don't know if
it really works that way or not. Tom, you might give it a try and see
what they say...

That's what I did with the Contender - went directly to them and got a
bare boat delivered to their dealer. From there it went to my dealer
for the engines.

For what it's worth, Yamaha isn't doing the business any favors with
their discounting deals with manufacturers. Just my opinion.

There is nothing wrong with four stroke technology, but when you
consider efficiency, power and weight, DI two strokes win every time.

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:30:44 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Do they have a dealer on the East Coast?

I believe, and I'm not exactly sure about this, that Black Lab buys
their hulls from Pacific, then retrofits them to spec.

I think.

If not, it might be an opportunity for somebody. Pacific Boats won't
sell into the market looking for the cheapest available aluminum boat,
but should appeal to experienced boaters with the ability to discern
and appreciate a quality build.

Well, we'll see as time moves on.

I'm in the market for a bigger boat.

Shouldn't have sold the Contender.

~~ mutter ~~

On Feb 3, 11:06 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:





HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.

I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!

That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?

Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha's - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha's - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha's - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC's - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC's -- TBA

Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.

It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go
offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets.

Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast
trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional
and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed.

Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty
steady for a given hull.

You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod
holders.

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A friend of a friend bought their last years team tournament boat, it
is down in CT. I guess my bud had use of the boat but after a couple
70 mph trips to the race, they decided the gas was too much for his
boating

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:54:16 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

I've noticed that the Grady website allows you to spec your own boat
and gives the ability to change engine manufacturers. I don't know if
it really works that way or not. Tom, you might give it a try and see
what they say...

That's what I did with the Contender - went directly to them and got a
bare boat delivered to their dealer. From there it went to my dealer
for the engines.

For what it's worth, Yamaha isn't doing the business any favors with
their discounting deals with manufacturers. Just my opinion.

There is nothing wrong with four stroke technology, but when you
consider efficiency, power and weight, DI two strokes win every time.


snerkle

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm
I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.
I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!


That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?


Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha’s - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha’s - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha’s - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC’s - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC’s — TBA


Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.



It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go
offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets.

Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast
trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional
and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed.

Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty
steady for a given hull.

You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod
holders.

What do you troll for at 90mph?

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:17:31 -0500, BAR wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm
I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.
I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!


That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?


Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha’s - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha’s - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha’s - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC’s - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC’s — TBA


Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.



It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go
offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets.

Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast
trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional
and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed.

Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty
steady for a given hull.

You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod
holders.

What do you troll for at 90mph?

Sports cars...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:17:31 -0500, BAR wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm
I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.
I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!

That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?

Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha’s - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha’s - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha’s - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC’s - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC’s — TBA


Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.


It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go
offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets.

Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast
trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional
and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed.

Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty
steady for a given hull.

You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod
holders.
What do you troll for at 90mph?

Sports cars...



Fuel capacity, 410 gallons. Let's see, 410 gallons at $3.25 a gallon =
$1300+ bucks. If you trailer and buy on the road. Marina likely higher.

410 gallons of gas at about 7 pounds a gallon, give or take. 2800 pounds
of gasoline aboard.


With each fillup, you get one free psychiatric examination.

snerk