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On Feb 10, 11:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:

I stopped using salt a couple of years ago. I use "No Salt" which I
actually prefer the taste of.
"No Salt" is Potassium Chloride, one of the three chemicals used in
lethal
injection executions.

Eisboch

It's cheap and plentyful too!

Jsut get a bucket and scoop some out of the State trucks before they
start spreading to de-ice the roads...

We go the Sea Salt route. A friend of ours in Hawaii process's sea
salt himself and mails us some when we're out.

Sea Salt is good. But, it's still salt, less concentrated, but still salt.

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True, but has other good minerals in it as well.
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.....as well as the same crap that contaminates the fish we're not supposed
to eat too much of.

A couple of years ago, NPR ran a story about serious pollution problems
along some of Italy's coastline. Same day, I went shopping and spotted a
container of sea salt whose label said "From the crystal clear waters of the
Mediterranean. Product of Italy."

Yep.

On Feb 10, 1:30*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Tim" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

I stopped using salt a couple of years ago. * I use "No Salt" which I
actually prefer the taste of.
"No Salt" is Potassium Chloride, one of the three chemicals used in
lethal
injection executions.

Eisboch

It's cheap and plentyful too!

Jsut get a bucket and scoop some out of the State trucks before they
start spreading to de-ice the roads...

We go the Sea Salt route. A friend of ours in Hawaii *process's sea
salt himself and mails us some when we're out.

Sea Salt is good. *But, it's still salt, less concentrated, but still
salt.

Eisboch

I do not know if it less concentrated. *Just a few different minerals tossed
in the mix. *I think most salt is really sea salt. *

Uh, Bill, if there are "a few different minerals tossed in the mix",
the salt would indeed be less concentrated. And most salt certainly
isn't sea salt. It's mined.

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:40:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Feb 10, 10:22 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:39:22 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:





"Tim" wrote in message
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KFC Fried chicken protests...again?

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/253898/17/

now I'm getting hungry....

Nah, we'll go there tomorrow for lunch!

The protesters are correct. KFC somehow manages to take perfectly good
chicken breasts and cook them until they're as dry as cardboard, except
for
the delicious greasy coating. That's cruel.

I don't know if it can be accomplished with any greater finesse. White
meat from fowl usually is somewhere between sawdust and shoe leather.

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What's the big deal? Mrs JW cooks white meat juicy and tender
everytime, and I am usually a dark meat eater. Take boneless breast,
egg, breadcrumbs in a smaller glass pan greased. You want to pack the
meat in somewhat tight, touching and the breasts not opended up all
the way or spread out, smooth side down. 425 for 22-24 minutes..
always comes out juicy and nice even for me and the kids. I don't see
what the big deal is and why some posers (not posters) are saying it
is so complicated... Geeze..

======================


We're talking about KFC, which serves bone-in chicken breasts. Cooking
bone-in breasts is a whole different story.


If it's dry, take it back and get another piece. Don't let them give you a
piece that's been sitting under the floodlights for a couple hours.

If it's fresh cooked, it should be moist.

You're getting this info from an expert.
--
John H

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:50:55 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:18:31 -0500, HK wrote:

The outrageous salt content of their product is what bugs me the most. But,
if you could eliminate that one factor, I don't think their fried chicken
would be so much worse than what you'd get at any other restaurant where
they know how to do it right.




Well, I like fried chicken - real fried chicken - which, of course KFC
does not serve, but I also like baked chicken. In fact, I like baked
better.

I agree with Joe that the salt content at most restaurants is
ridiculous. It is just a cheap and lazy way to add flavor.
As for chicken, rotissarie is probably the best. I have a back burner
on the grill and we set one spinning before we go out for our evening
boat ride. I also put a couple of potatoes on a rack I made near the
top of the grill. When we get home it is done.

If you compare the 'high value' Safeway packed chicken to Perdue, you'll
see the Safeway chicken has a sodium content about five times that of the
Perdue.
--
John H

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On Feb 10, 1:30 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Tim" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

I stopped using salt a couple of years ago. I use "No Salt" which I
actually prefer the taste of.
"No Salt" is Potassium Chloride, one of the three chemicals used in
lethal
injection executions.

Eisboch

It's cheap and plentyful too!

Jsut get a bucket and scoop some out of the State trucks before they
start spreading to de-ice the roads...

We go the Sea Salt route. A friend of ours in Hawaii process's sea
salt himself and mails us some when we're out.

Sea Salt is good. But, it's still salt, less concentrated, but still
salt.

Eisboch

I do not know if it less concentrated. Just a few different minerals
tossed
in the mix. I think most salt is really sea salt.

Uh, Bill, if there are "a few different minerals tossed in the mix",
the salt would indeed be less concentrated. And most salt certainly
isn't sea salt. It's mined.

Do not know if more is mined than evaporated. But if you think about it,
all salt is sea salt. But even when mined, it is still disolved and then
dried again in most cases. Very interesting tour was the salt mines near
Saltzburg, Austria just over the border in Germany.

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On Feb 10, 4:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Feb 10, 1:30 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:





"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Tim" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

I stopped using salt a couple of years ago. I use "No Salt" which I
actually prefer the taste of.
"No Salt" is Potassium Chloride, one of the three chemicals used in
lethal
injection executions.

Eisboch

It's cheap and plentyful too!

Jsut get a bucket and scoop some out of the State trucks before they
start spreading to de-ice the roads...

We go the Sea Salt route. A friend of ours in Hawaii process's sea
salt himself and mails us some when we're out.

Sea Salt is good. But, it's still salt, less concentrated, but still
salt.

Eisboch

I do not know if it less concentrated. Just a few different minerals
tossed
in the mix. I think most salt is really sea salt.

Uh, Bill, if there are "a few different minerals tossed in the mix",
the salt would indeed be less concentrated. And most salt certainly
isn't sea salt. It's mined.

Do not know if more is mined than evaporated. But if you think about it,
all salt is sea salt. But even when mined, it is still disolved and then
dried again in most cases. Very interesting tour was the salt mines near
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No it's not. I can take you to hundreds of salt mines in the U.S. that
are all mined with conveying equipment not disolved with water. An
interesting side point is that the equipment in the mines is not
rusted, and won't rust unless it's brought out in the environment.

But major underground mines now use a dissolving process. At least the ones
in Europe do. Much cheaper and safer than mining underground.

On Feb 11, 6:27*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Feb 10, 4:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:





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On Feb 10, 1:30 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Tim" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

I stopped using salt a couple of years ago. I use "No Salt" which I
actually prefer the taste of.
"No Salt" is Potassium Chloride, one of the three chemicals used in
lethal
injection executions.

Eisboch

It's cheap and plentyful too!

Jsut get a bucket and scoop some out of the State trucks before they
start spreading to de-ice the roads...

We go the Sea Salt route. A friend of ours in Hawaii process's sea
salt himself and mails us some when we're out.

Sea Salt is good. But, it's still salt, less concentrated, but still
salt.

Eisboch

I do not know if it less concentrated. Just a few different minerals
tossed
in the mix. I think most salt is really sea salt.

Uh, Bill, if there are "a few different minerals tossed in the mix",
the salt would indeed be less concentrated. And most salt certainly
isn't sea salt. It's mined.

Do not know if more is mined than evaporated. But if you think about it,
all salt is sea salt. But even when mined, it is still disolved and then
dried again in most cases. Very interesting tour was the salt mines near
Saltzburg, Austria just over the border in Germany.- Hide quoted text -

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No it's not. I can take you to hundreds of salt mines in the U.S. that
are all mined with conveying equipment not disolved with water. An
interesting side point is that the equipment in the mines is not
rusted, and won't rust unless it's brought out in the environment.

But major underground mines now use a dissolving process. *At least the ones
in Europe do. *Much cheaper and safer than mining underground.- Hide quoted text -

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Major mines do? I can take you to western NY where there are miles
after miles after miles of mines that even go under the Finger Lakes,
NONE use any type of dissolving process. Now, there are some small
domes that they dissolve, but that isn't to claim the salt, it's to
get the salt out of the way so they can use the ensuing cavern for
natural gas storage.
Brine Wells are an old method that isn't used much anymore in the
U.S., although there are wet mines, where there are trapped pockets of
salt already in solution with water that they pump out.

On Feb 10, 1:54*pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:50:55 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:18:31 -0500, HK wrote:

The outrageous salt content of their product is what bugs me the most. But,
if you could eliminate that one factor, I don't think their fried chicken
would be so much worse than what you'd get at any other restaurant where
they know how to do it right.

Well, I like fried chicken - real fried chicken - which, of course KFC
does not serve, but I also like baked chicken. In fact, I like baked
better.

I agree with Joe that the salt content at most restaurants is
ridiculous. It is just a cheap and lazy way to add flavor.
As for chicken, rotissarie is probably the best. I have a back burner
on the grill and we set one spinning before we go out for our evening
boat ride. I also put a couple of potatoes on a rack I made near the
top of the grill. When we get home it is done.

If you compare the 'high value' Safeway packed chicken to Perdue, you'll
see the Safeway chicken has a sodium content about five times that of the
Perdue.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Seeing we're on the subject of chickens....


Why did the chicken cross the road?


DR. PHIL:
The problem we have here is that this chicken won't realize that he
must first deal with the problem on 'THIS' side of the road before it
goes after the problem on the 'OTHER SIDE' of the road. What we need
to do is help him realize how stupid he's acting by not taking on his
'CURRENT' problems before adding 'NEW' problems.

OPRAH:
Well, I understand that the chicken is having problems, which is why
he wants to cross this road so bad. So instead of having the chicken
learn from his mistakes and take falls, which is a part of life, I'm
going to give this chicken a car so that he can just drive across the
road and not live his life like the rest of the chickens.

GEORGE W. BUSH:
We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to
know if the chicken is on our side of the road, or not. The chicken is
either against us, or for us. There is no middle ground here.

COLIN POWELL:
Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see the satellite image
of the chicken crossing the road...

ANDERSON COOPER - CNN:
We have reason to believe there is a chicken, but we have not yet been
allowed to have access to the other side of the road.

JOHN KERRY:
Although I voted to let the chicken cross the road, I am now against
it! It was the wrong road to cross, and I was misled about the
chicken's intentions. I am not for it now, and will remain against
it.

NANCY GRACE:
That chicken crossed the road because he's GUILTY! You can see it in
his eyes and the way he walks.

PAT BUCHANAN:
To steal the job of a decent, hardworking American.

MARTHA STEWART:
No one called me to warn me which way that chicken was going. I had a
standing order at the Farmer's Market to sell my eggs when the price
dropped to a certain level. No little bird gave me any insider
information.

DR SEUSS:
Did the chicken cross the road? Did he cross it with a toad? Yes, the
chicken crossed the road, but why it crossed I've not been told.

ERNEST HEMINGWAY:
To die in the rain. Alone.

JERRY FALWELL:
Because the chicken was gay! Can't you people see the plain truth?'
That's why they call it the 'other side.' Yes, my friends, that
chicken is gay. And if you eat that chicken, you will become gay too.
I say we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination that
the liberal media white washes with seemingly harmless phrases like
'the other side. That chicken should not be crossing the road. It's as
plain and as simple as that.

GRANDPA:
In my day we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Somebody
told us the chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough.

BARBARA WALTERS:
Isn't that interesting? In a few moments, we will be listening to the
chicken tell, for the first time, the heart warming story of how it
experienced a serious case of molting, and went on to accomplish its
life long dream of crossing the road.

JOHN LENNON:
Imagine all the chickens in the world crossing roads together, in
peace.

ARISTOTLE:
It is the nature of chickens to cross the road.

BILL GATES:
I have just released eChicken2007, which will not only cross roads,
but will lay eggs, file your important documents, and balance your
check book. Internet Explorer is an integral part of eChicken. This
new platform is much more stable and will never cra...#@&&^(C
% ........ reboot.

ALBERT EINSTEIN:
Did the chicken really cross the road, or did the road move beneath
the chicken?

BILL CLINTON:
I did not cross the road with THAT chicken. What is your definition of
chicken?

AL GO
I invented the chicken!

COLONEL SANDERS:
Did I miss one?

DICK CHENEY :
Where's my gun?

AL SHARPTON:
Why are all the chickens white? We need some black chickens.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Feb 10, 1:54 pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:50:55 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:18:31 -0500, HK wrote:

The outrageous salt content of their product is what bugs me the most.
But,
if you could eliminate that one factor, I don't think their fried
chicken
would be so much worse than what you'd get at any other restaurant
where
they know how to do it right.

Well, I like fried chicken - real fried chicken - which, of course KFC
does not serve, but I also like baked chicken. In fact, I like baked
better.

I agree with Joe that the salt content at most restaurants is
ridiculous. It is just a cheap and lazy way to add flavor.
As for chicken, rotissarie is probably the best. I have a back burner
on the grill and we set one spinning before we go out for our evening
boat ride. I also put a couple of potatoes on a rack I made near the
top of the grill. When we get home it is done.

If you compare the 'high value' Safeway packed chicken to Perdue, you'll
see the Safeway chicken has a sodium content about five times that of the
Perdue.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Seeing we're on the subject of chickens....


Why did the chicken cross the road?


DR. PHIL:
The problem we have here is that this chicken won't realize that he
must first deal with the problem on 'THIS' side of the road before it
goes after the problem on the 'OTHER SIDE' of the road. What we need
to do is help him realize how stupid he's acting by not taking on his
'CURRENT' problems before adding 'NEW' problems.

OPRAH:
Well, I understand that the chicken is having problems, which is why
he wants to cross this road so bad. So instead of having the chicken
learn from his mistakes and take falls, which is a part of life, I'm
going to give this chicken a car so that he can just drive across the
road and not live his life like the rest of the chickens.

GEORGE W. BUSH:
We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to
know if the chicken is on our side of the road, or not. The chicken is
either against us, or for us. There is no middle ground here.

COLIN POWELL:
Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see the satellite image
of the chicken crossing the road...

ANDERSON COOPER - CNN:
We have reason to believe there is a chicken, but we have not yet been
allowed to have access to the other side of the road.

JOHN KERRY:
Although I voted to let the chicken cross the road, I am now against
it! It was the wrong road to cross, and I was misled about the
chicken's intentions. I am not for it now, and will remain against
it.

NANCY GRACE:
That chicken crossed the road because he's GUILTY! You can see it in
his eyes and the way he walks.

PAT BUCHANAN:
To steal the job of a decent, hardworking American.

MARTHA STEWART:
No one called me to warn me which way that chicken was going. I had a
standing order at the Farmer's Market to sell my eggs when the price
dropped to a certain level. No little bird gave me any insider
information.

DR SEUSS:
Did the chicken cross the road? Did he cross it with a toad? Yes, the
chicken crossed the road, but why it crossed I've not been told.

ERNEST HEMINGWAY:
To die in the rain. Alone.

JERRY FALWELL:
Because the chicken was gay! Can't you people see the plain truth?'
That's why they call it the 'other side.' Yes, my friends, that
chicken is gay. And if you eat that chicken, you will become gay too.
I say we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination that
the liberal media white washes with seemingly harmless phrases like
'the other side. That chicken should not be crossing the road. It's as
plain and as simple as that.

GRANDPA:
In my day we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Somebody
told us the chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough.

BARBARA WALTERS:
Isn't that interesting? In a few moments, we will be listening to the
chicken tell, for the first time, the heart warming story of how it
experienced a serious case of molting, and went on to accomplish its
life long dream of crossing the road.

JOHN LENNON:
Imagine all the chickens in the world crossing roads together, in
peace.

ARISTOTLE:
It is the nature of chickens to cross the road.

BILL GATES:
I have just released eChicken2007, which will not only cross roads,
but will lay eggs, file your important documents, and balance your
check book. Internet Explorer is an integral part of eChicken. This
new platform is much more stable and will never cra...#@&&^(C
% ........ reboot.

ALBERT EINSTEIN:
Did the chicken really cross the road, or did the road move beneath
the chicken?

BILL CLINTON:
I did not cross the road with THAT chicken. What is your definition of
chicken?

AL GO
I invented the chicken!

COLONEL SANDERS:
Did I miss one?

DICK CHENEY :
Where's my gun?

AL SHARPTON:
Why are all the chickens white? We need some black chickens.


LOL. Good.

Eisboch

We were on the subject of chickens three days ago. But, I can see how it
may have taken you three days to come up with that.

You forgot Harry: My chickens just flew around the earth to get to the
other side!



On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:48:01 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Feb 10, 1:54*pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:50:55 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:18:31 -0500, HK wrote:

The outrageous salt content of their product is what bugs me the most. But,
if you could eliminate that one factor, I don't think their fried chicken
would be so much worse than what you'd get at any other restaurant where
they know how to do it right.

Well, I like fried chicken - real fried chicken - which, of course KFC
does not serve, but I also like baked chicken. In fact, I like baked
better.

I agree with Joe that the salt content at most restaurants is
ridiculous. It is just a cheap and lazy way to add flavor.
As for chicken, rotissarie is probably the best. I have a back burner
on the grill and we set one spinning before we go out for our evening
boat ride. I also put a couple of potatoes on a rack I made near the
top of the grill. When we get home it is done.

If you compare the 'high value' Safeway packed chicken to Perdue, you'll
see the Safeway chicken has a sodium content about five times that of the
Perdue.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Seeing we're on the subject of chickens....


Why did the chicken cross the road?


DR. PHIL:
The problem we have here is that this chicken won't realize that he
must first deal with the problem on 'THIS' side of the road before it
goes after the problem on the 'OTHER SIDE' of the road. What we need
to do is help him realize how stupid he's acting by not taking on his
'CURRENT' problems before adding 'NEW' problems.

OPRAH:
Well, I understand that the chicken is having problems, which is why
he wants to cross this road so bad. So instead of having the chicken
learn from his mistakes and take falls, which is a part of life, I'm
going to give this chicken a car so that he can just drive across the
road and not live his life like the rest of the chickens.

GEORGE W. BUSH:
We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to
know if the chicken is on our side of the road, or not. The chicken is
either against us, or for us. There is no middle ground here.

COLIN POWELL:
Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see the satellite image
of the chicken crossing the road...

ANDERSON COOPER - CNN:
We have reason to believe there is a chicken, but we have not yet been
allowed to have access to the other side of the road.

JOHN KERRY:
Although I voted to let the chicken cross the road, I am now against
it! It was the wrong road to cross, and I was misled about the
chicken's intentions. I am not for it now, and will remain against
it.

NANCY GRACE:
That chicken crossed the road because he's GUILTY! You can see it in
his eyes and the way he walks.

PAT BUCHANAN:
To steal the job of a decent, hardworking American.

MARTHA STEWART:
No one called me to warn me which way that chicken was going. I had a
standing order at the Farmer's Market to sell my eggs when the price
dropped to a certain level. No little bird gave me any insider
information.

DR SEUSS:
Did the chicken cross the road? Did he cross it with a toad? Yes, the
chicken crossed the road, but why it crossed I've not been told.

ERNEST HEMINGWAY:
To die in the rain. Alone.

JERRY FALWELL:
Because the chicken was gay! Can't you people see the plain truth?'
That's why they call it the 'other side.' Yes, my friends, that
chicken is gay. And if you eat that chicken, you will become gay too.
I say we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination that
the liberal media white washes with seemingly harmless phrases like
'the other side. That chicken should not be crossing the road. It's as
plain and as simple as that.

GRANDPA:
In my day we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Somebody
told us the chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough.

BARBARA WALTERS:
Isn't that interesting? In a few moments, we will be listening to the
chicken tell, for the first time, the heart warming story of how it
experienced a serious case of molting, and went on to accomplish its
life long dream of crossing the road.

JOHN LENNON:
Imagine all the chickens in the world crossing roads together, in
peace.

ARISTOTLE:
It is the nature of chickens to cross the road.

BILL GATES:
I have just released eChicken2007, which will not only cross roads,
but will lay eggs, file your important documents, and balance your
check book. Internet Explorer is an integral part of eChicken. This
new platform is much more stable and will never cra...#@&&^(C
% ........ reboot.

ALBERT EINSTEIN:
Did the chicken really cross the road, or did the road move beneath
the chicken?

BILL CLINTON:
I did not cross the road with THAT chicken. What is your definition of
chicken?

AL GO
I invented the chicken!

COLONEL SANDERS:
Did I miss one?

DICK CHENEY :
Where's my gun?

AL SHARPTON:
Why are all the chickens white? We need some black chickens.

--
John H