On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:18:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:43:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message
m...
On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote:

In message , Eisboch
is
alleged to have said:

This is the exact model:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg

Blackie rules.

That ain't blackie!



The one I got is a "Blackie". And the one in the picture is. It's
Clapton's main ride.

Eisboch


They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a
reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is
essentially a
"Strat Plus" with a black finish.

Still a great guitar, though.



I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is
advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are
supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them)
What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"?

Eisboch


After reading the "Story" at the following link, I'd agree that the guitar I
bought isn't a "true" Blackie replication, even though it's advertised as a
"Blackie".

Either that, or I got one heck of a deal!!

http://www.fender.com/blackie/blackie_home.html

Eisboch


You've probably seen this site. It gives a lot of information on the
replicas sold.

http://gc.guitarcenter.com/clapton/detail.cfm?tabgray=2
--
John H

"John H." wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...

That ain't blackie!



They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a
reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is
essentially a
"Strat Plus" with a black finish.

Still a great guitar, though.



I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is
advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are
supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them)
What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"?

Eisboch


After reading the "Story" at the following link, I'd agree that the guitar
I
bought isn't a "true" Blackie replication, even though it's advertised as
a
"Blackie".

Either that, or I got one heck of a deal!!

http://www.fender.com/blackie/blackie_home.html

Eisboch


You've probably seen this site. It gives a lot of information on the
replicas sold.

http://gc.guitarcenter.com/clapton/detail.cfm?tabgray=2
--
John H


Salty is correct. Mine is not one of the limited production replication
Blackies. It's not aged and the back of the body is different. It looks
like a Blackie, before aging, is called a Blackie and has the "Eric Clapton"
signature on the headstock beside the "Stratocaster" title, but, like he
says, it's basically a black Stat Plus.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...



Salty is correct. Mine is not one of the limited production replication
Blackies. It's not aged and the back of the body is different. It
looks like a Blackie, before aging, is called a Blackie and has the "Eric
Clapton" signature on the headstock beside the "Stratocaster" title, but,
like he says, it's basically a black Stat Plus.

Eisboch


I just noticed that the headstock also has "Blackie" printed below Eric
Clapton's signature.
So, technically it *is* a "Blackie", but it's not a Blackie. Or something
like that.

Eisboch

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:07:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:43:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message
m...
On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote:

In message , Eisboch
is
alleged to have said:

This is the exact model:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg

Blackie rules.

That ain't blackie!



The one I got is a "Blackie". And the one in the picture is. It's
Clapton's main ride.

Eisboch


They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a
reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is
essentially
a
"Strat Plus" with a black finish.

Still a great guitar, though.



I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is
advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are
supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them)
What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"?

Eisboch


Those pickups are called "Lace Sensors". The original Blackie was made
30 years before they were invented.

BTW - Your local guitar shop wants to charge you 50-70 dollars to drop
in a new reverb tank that retails for half that amount. The "labor"
consists of R&R of 2 mounting screws, and plugging in 2 rca cables.

I even found you an online amp parts place. Ther may be other that are
even cheaper. Hopefully your guitar shop didn't buy a case of $5
taiwanese tanks, which are NOT going to sound the same.

http://www.ampwares.com/reverb.html


Why lug your amp back and forth to the shop needlessly?




Thanks. I've already removed the "tank", so I'll call them and order a
replacement for the Mesa Boogie original.

I appreciate your knowledge of the Fender also. The subject may be boring
others to tears, but I've learned a lot.
Apparently, the guitar I bought is the one described at the following link,
because it has the newer "noiseless" pickups. It also apparently has a
battery powered preamp as described, which explains why it's output is so
high compared to my other electrics. I have to figure out where the
battery is. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't
seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood
block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff.

Here's the link:

http://www.kellyindustries.com/guita...c_clapton.html

Eisboch

On Feb 13, 6:59*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
Mid winter boredom setting in, so I've been getting back into the guitars.
I "self" taught myself and learned a bunch of bad habits, so I got some DVD
instructional videos and have been practicing and trying to correct some of
my *long established bad techniques. * I've finally mastered "Lying Eyes",
doing both the chord progressions and riffs on a Taylor acoustic/electric.
Even Mrs. E. is impressed.

Very good, and kudos!

But, yesterday I visited our local "Music Unlimited" store. *They sell both
new, used and consignment instruments.
One consignment guitar caught my eye. *It was the Eric Clapton model of a
Fender Stratocaster. * I resisted at first, went home, then said "screw it"
and went back and bought it. *It's in perfect, like-new condition.

What nice guitar! * I love it. *The pickups are so hot that you have to turn
the gain on the amp down to about half that used for the other electrics I
have, including the Les Paul Gibson. * And it has that very characteristic
Clapton sound.

Yep, I like my strat, it's a very unique sound, but then so is the
mellower Les Paul.

On Feb 14, 5:18*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
. ..
On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote:

In ,
Eisboch is
alleged to have said:

This is the exact model:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg

Blackie rules.
That ain't blackie!

The one I got is a "Blackie". * *And the one in the picture is. *It's
Clapton's main ride.

Eisboch

I like the current Lucille:

http://www.gibsoncustom.com/flash/pr...ucille/lucille....

Harry,
I had no idea you played the guitar, way to go.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

He's the best there is, of course. His tastes are exquisite.

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:12:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



That's actually a pretty different guitar than the one that Clapton is
playing in the first photo link you posted. The photo showed a slight
variation on a Strat Plus with the lace sensor pickups, but not the
roller nut found on a Strat Plus. Those were the two most distinct
features of the Plus model, and the guitar you have doesn't have
either of those features. I'd say yours is maybe more like the '57
reissue but with active electronics.

If you aren't into the "dive bomber" thing with the tremlo bar, I'd
leave the block of wood right where it is. It will help the guitar
stay in tune. There is an old (and true) saying that "Fender guitar
players spend half their life tuning and the other half playing out of
tune". PROPERLY set up, they can be made to stay in tune, but even
most professional guitar techs don't seem to be able to do this right.



Still learning. I took a good look at it a while ago. It *does* have Lace
pickups. (I was going by what the guitar store guy told me). "Lace sensors"
is printed on them in tiny letters.

It also has the active preamp. Downloaded the manual from the Fender
website and found the battery.
Finally figured out the function of the detent on the upper tone control.

Thanks again for your help.

Eisboch Clapton

Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:12:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

That's actually a pretty different guitar than the one that Clapton is
playing in the first photo link you posted. The photo showed a slight
variation on a Strat Plus with the lace sensor pickups, but not the
roller nut found on a Strat Plus. Those were the two most distinct
features of the Plus model, and the guitar you have doesn't have
either of those features. I'd say yours is maybe more like the '57
reissue but with active electronics.

If you aren't into the "dive bomber" thing with the tremlo bar, I'd
leave the block of wood right where it is. It will help the guitar
stay in tune. There is an old (and true) saying that "Fender guitar
players spend half their life tuning and the other half playing out of
tune". PROPERLY set up, they can be made to stay in tune, but even
most professional guitar techs don't seem to be able to do this right.



Still learning. I took a good look at it a while ago. It *does* have Lace
pickups. (I was going by what the guitar store guy told me). "Lace sensors"
is printed on them in tiny letters.

It also has the active preamp. Downloaded the manual from the Fender
website and found the battery.
Finally figured out the function of the detent on the upper tone control.

Thanks again for your help.

Eisboch Clapton




Mr. Clapton,
My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly
Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a
Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. From memory he picked
the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model,
but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. When he went off to school
and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat
Strat. Strats are just one hell of a guitar.

On Feb 13, 9:50*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
.. .
On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote:

In , Eisboch is
alleged to have said:

This is the exact model:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg
Blackie rules.
That ain't blackie!

The one I got is a "Blackie". * *And the one in the picture is. *It's
Clapton's main ride.

Eisboch

I like the current Lucille:

http://www.gibsoncustom.com/flash/pr...e/lucille....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I thought you were too cultured and refined to listen to anything
besides flamenco and classical guitar..........
Or was that another lobster boating?

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:54:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:



Mr. Clapton,
My son has a Gibson Les Paul Studio (his first guitar), a Parker Fly
Guitar (can sound like both a solid body electric or acoustic) and a
Fender American Deluxe "Fat Strat" Stratocaster. From memory he picked
the Fat Strat because it was not quite as bright as the Clapton model,
but it does have a really nice bluesy sound. When he went off to school
and could only hand carry one guitar on the plane, he took the Fat
Strat. Strats are just one hell of a guitar.

One of my kids expressed interest in playing the guitar, so I bought
him a pretty but cheap electric. Synsonics Pro Series.
The kind guys get shipped in from China and sell from their garage,
which is where I picked it up. Plain cardboard box that said "Don't
stack more than 20 high," "Made in China." About 100 bucks.
He loved it for a couple weeks, then decided he liked air guitar
better. Pretty much as I figured.
Back in about '80 I bought a cherry Gibson J45 Sunburst in a hard
case. 1964 model I think. Paid 175 for it. The guy had bought it
new, plucked it few times, then put it in a closet.
Think I learned 2 cords or whatever you call them, then put it my
closet. Another son has that one and can actually play it some.
Pretty geetar.

--Vic