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The Fender Jaguar and Jazzmaster guitars had a tremolo that could be
immobilized by simply rotating the arm to face towards the tail of the
guitar. The only disadvantage to it was that it was also limited to
loosening the strings by pressing down, but could not tighten the
strings by pulling upwards. It did stay in tune better than the type
used for the Strats.



I have a Peavey electric that operates that way. I think it depends on what
brand of bridge they use.

Eisboch


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Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model.


Eisboch


Well? Get another cup of coffee and start frekin' typing..

BTW, do you know of anyone "local" (tri state area) who sets up and/or
works on electric guitars?

Two in my area. *Both are "Music Unlimited" stores. *One is in Kingston,
about 2 miles away and the other is in Hanover , about 12 miles. *They both
are staffed by musicians, pro and not so pro, but all are knowledgable and
many attended schools of music.


I have a couple of places here like that, but I really want a
professional mechanic to check this out for me. I think I have heard
of the guy Salty reccomended in Middletown, I may give him a call.


They provide lessons on just about any instrument and do repairs,
refurbishments, etc, on guitars.
I am going to bring my Taylor 12 string down to them, have it checked out,
adjusted, restrung and, if possible, have the new piezo sensor and controls
installed to convert it to acoustical/electric. * The newer, six string
Taylor I have has this system factory installed, and it sounds great,
especially on an amp specifically designed for acoustic/electrics. *I use a
65 watt "Kustom" for it and it sounds right at home playing along with the
Eagles. * If I use a regular, solid body electric guitar amp like the little
Marshall I use for the electrics only, it sounds horrible.


I have a Martin Backpacker, love it but wanted to plug it in. Now this
is a small guitar with not a lot of wood already but mine has a
"sweet" piece of wood, everyone who has heard or played it, agrees.
Anyway, I was told by many folks not to tap into the body for a
pickup, that is could change the sound, even a 1/4 inch hole which I
would have needed. I opted for a Dean Markely acoustic pickup, it
sticks to the body with putty. I imagine this solution may not be
acceptable to your ears and up to speed with your equipment, but for
me it worked fine. Now you can get the Backpacker from the factory
with the pickup built in.

I have an Ovation 6 string, and a Takamine 12 that are acoustic/
electric... They both sound good to me, but again I have little
experience to know the difference... I like em' though. Good luck with
the new Fender. My wife saw one a few months back and had me look at
it, I ended up with something else..

Eisboch


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On Feb 15, 9:56 am, "Eisboch" wrote:


Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model.

Eisboch


Well? Get another cup of coffee and start frekin' typing..



Ok. Here's what I've garnered from searching around on the Web and from
information directly from the Fender website.

Early in his career, Eric Clapton happened to stop in at a music store and
found several used Fender guitars for sale for something like 100 bucks
each. He bought them all, took them home and built a custom guitar using
parts from the various $100 guitars. He modified the shape of the body to
his liking and installed some "hot" pickups that he preferred. After it was
finished, he painted it with black lacquer and named it "Blackie".

He used "Blackie" for many years as he became successful and famous, both
for recording of albums and in live concerts. Sometime in the late 80's it
had become very beat up. The paint was worn and chipping away, it had
cigarette burns on the headstock and looked a mess. He officially "retired"
it, although he still used it occasionally for concert performances.

Years later, Fender contacted him about doing a special, custom built
replica of it. Clapton agreed and sent them the original Blackie. Fender
built 224, custom built Strats, exactly like the worn original. They
duplicated the chipped and worn paint and even the cigarette burns. All 224
of them were sold for $24,000 each. None are currently available for sale
anywhere that I could find on the 'Net.

After that, Fender and Clapton agreed to introduce a new line of production
Strats, based basically on the original Blackie design, but with more modern
pickups, etc. It was introduced as the Eric Clapton Artist "Blackie"
version of the Fender Stratocaster. The one I bought is one of these.
There's a little bit of discontinuity in that the current version uses
Vintage Noiseless Pickups and a pre-amp with a special tone control called
"The Clapton Circuit". Mine has Lace Sensor pickups, but also has the
"Clapton Circuit". It's basically a dual pot setup on the middle tone
control with a detent position at the "5" setting. It acts like a regular,
full range tone control from 0 to 5 and then the "Clapton" sound kicks in
from 5 to 10. The preamp also produces a 25db gain in the midrange, making
it very "hot" compared to a regular, passive electric. This was done in an
attempt to as faithfully as possible reproduce the sound of the original
"Blackie" that Clapton built.

Eisboch


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Eisboch wrote:

. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't
seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood
block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff.



Tremlo bar = idiot stick.



Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot?


No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins.

But the common ordinary rocker wannabe?

well......
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Eisboch wrote:

. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't
seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a
wood
block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff.


Tremlo bar = idiot stick.



Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot?


No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins.

But the common ordinary rocker wannabe?

well......



....and Jeff Beck, and a guy around here named Steve Grills, who gives Beck a
run for his money.




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I am starting to like playing my electric with no pick.



Chuck Berry always did and still does....
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Eisboch wrote:


. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't
seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a
wood
block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff.


Tremlo bar = idiot stick.


Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot?


No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins.


But the common ordinary rocker wannabe?


well......- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think we are in agreement. The way I see it, the tremolo arm is a
great tool if you use it properly. Give some dude that is just so-so
one and he thinks he sounds way cool and is actually covering up his
inability.


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Scary good tremolo bar, but subtle:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuK2msTzec-Hide quoted text -


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Yep, Beck is very good at a lot of unconventional things too. Using
the volume knob like a damned wawa for one!- Hide quoted text -

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Beck is why I play, it is eventually what I strive for...
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On Feb 15, 11:32 am, Tim wrote:


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Eisboch wrote:


. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't
seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a
wood
block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff.


Tremlo bar = idiot stick.


Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot?


No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins.


But the common ordinary rocker wannabe?


well......- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think we are in agreement. The way I see it, the tremolo arm is a
great tool if you use it properly. Give some dude that is just so-so
one and he thinks he sounds way cool and is actually covering up his
inability.


===================


Scary good tremolo bar, but subtle:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuK2msTzec-Hidequoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yep, Beck is very good at a lot of unconventional things too. Using
the volume knob like a damned wawa for one!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Beck is why I play, it is eventually what I strive for...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


no pick... just like me
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Eisboch wrote:


. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't
seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's
a
wood
block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff.


Tremlo bar = idiot stick.


Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot?


No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins.


But the common ordinary rocker wannabe?


well......- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think we are in agreement. The way I see it, the tremolo arm is a
great tool if you use it properly. Give some dude that is just so-so
one and he thinks he sounds way cool and is actually covering up his
inability.


===================


Scary good tremolo bar, but
subtle:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuK2msTzec-Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yep, Beck is very good at a lot of unconventional things too. Using
the volume knob like a damned wawa for one!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Beck is why I play, it is eventually what I strive for...

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For me lately, it's Harold Floyd, the bassist who played with Clarence
Gatemouth Brown. His playing is absolutely perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ArkvEByYGo


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Eisboch wrote:


. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't
seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a
wood
block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff.


Tremlo bar = idiot stick.


Stevie Ray Vaughn was an idiot?


No, and neither was Bigsby, Les Paul or Chet Atkins.


But the common ordinary rocker wannabe?


well......- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think we are in agreement. The way I see it, the tremolo arm is a
great tool if you use it properly. Give some dude that is just so-so
one and he thinks he sounds way cool and is actually covering up his
inability.


===================


Scary good tremolo bar, but subtle:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuK2msTzec-Hidequoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yep, Beck is very good at a lot of unconventional things too. Using
the volume knob like a damned wawa for one!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Beck is why I play, it is eventually what I strive for...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey, at least you aim high! After all of this music talk, I've told
some friends to come on over and jam tomorrow evening, I've got a keg
of porter all ready to go!
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