Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:27:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this
morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case
pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch
If Bush were held to the same standards you're assuming for Democrats,
he'd have been tarred, feathered and burned at the stake in his first
term.

I think the Clinton's have made clear that they're willing to
sacrafice the good of the party in order to win. You may be right
about McCain's chances since a lot of Democrats like me will sit out
the election if she's the nominee.

AFAIC, she's McCain lite. Why not let the Republicans drive us
another four years into the hole so we can have a real Democrat.

jps


I like Obama. For the most part he has run a clean campaign and has the
"image" that projects a thoughtful potential POTUS to the world. We need
that right now, even if his views on policy aren't exactly what I would
subscribe to.

Unfortunately, the latest "tip" given to the media may destroy his chances.
I wonder who decided this was a good time to bring up the pastor? I doubt
it was McCain. He's on vacation until the Dems stop feeding upon
themselves.

Eisboch




You seem to forget that the dirtiest of dirty tricks are played by the
Republicans. If you need a recent example, just look into what the
Republicans did to John McCain in South Carolina in the 2000 nomination
contests.

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:27:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news this
morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the nut-case
pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

If Bush were held to the same standards you're assuming for Democrats,
he'd have been tarred, feathered and burned at the stake in his first
term.

I think the Clinton's have made clear that they're willing to
sacrafice the good of the party in order to win. You may be right
about McCain's chances since a lot of Democrats like me will sit out
the election if she's the nominee.

AFAIC, she's McCain lite. Why not let the Republicans drive us
another four years into the hole so we can have a real Democrat.

jps

"HK" wrote in message
...


You seem to forget that the dirtiest of dirty tricks are played by the
Republicans. If you need a recent example, just look into what the
Republicans did to John McCain in South Carolina in the 2000 nomination
contests.

Check your computer clock. It's March, 2008.

Eisboch

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying that
if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would lose.
There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also closet
bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting for a woman
or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth, they just will
not vote for any woman or darkie.......

Now "thats" a great example of projection...

jps

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying that
if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would lose.
There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also closet
bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting for a woman
or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth, they just will
not vote for any woman or darkie.......

Hillary has a chance, since she's as tough as McCain.
Obama's downfall was Oprah's endorsement.
Personally, I think he's solid, and race isn't his primary motivator.
But when he let Oprah get aboard, it racialized Obama.
Still can't predict anything, the way things change.
All the candidates are dip****s anyway.
I want a candidate who puts America first.
This country will continue to decline until we go back to being
mostly self-sufficient in manufacturing our own goods.
We're off-shoring national defense, for Christ's sake.
I want Dick Nixon!
In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic

"JimH" wrote in message
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If Republicans practiced the same technique the Obama spiritual
advisor/pastor story would have not come out until November.


Exactly why the "news" didn't come from the Republican side.

Now, who would gain by having this leak now ..... lemmmie think ......

Eisboch

"John" wrote in message
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:



I want a candidate who puts America first.
This country will continue to decline until we go back to being
mostly self-sufficient in manufacturing our own goods.
We're off-shoring national defense, for Christ's sake.


The first I heard of this was back about 2004 about the time of the port
authority being out sourced. But then this administration out sourced the
running of our top secret sub communication network to India!!! My God
our communication network for our nuclear subs sent to INDIA?

Now the news has just broke that the military contractors Bush is relying
on in Iraq have all incorporated off shore so they don't have to pay
income tax! No Bid contracts to American companies and this
administration lets them walk through a tax loop hole....


Modern "outsourcing" dates back to the Reagan administration as a means for
companies to get around restrictive union contracts.
It became more popular during the Clinton administration with the implement
of NAFTA which only re-enforced outsourcing interest.

Bush hasn't done anything to fix it, but he didn't cause it.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...


If Republicans practiced the same technique the Obama spiritual
advisor/pastor story would have not come out until November.


Exactly why the "news" didn't come from the Republican side.

Now, who would gain by having this leak now ..... lemmmie think ......

Eisboch

Dat bitch!

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

You seem to forget that the dirtiest of dirty tricks are played by the
Republicans. If you need a recent example, just look into what the
Republicans did to John McCain in South Carolina in the 2000 nomination
contests.

Check your computer clock. It's March, 2008.

Eisboch




It was a seminal moment in the campaign of President Idiot.

I'm not concerned about the "fighting" between Obama and Clinton. It
will end soon enough, it tends to keep McCain off the front page, and in
the end, either Clinton or Obama will be President and McCain can hawk
Viagra.

John wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying that
if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would lose.
There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also closet
bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting for a woman
or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth, they just will
not vote for any woman or darkie.......




WTF is a "darkie", John?