On Apr 6, 12:05 pm, Paul Oman wrote:
I've always felt we should folks who sneak into the USA the same
way folks who sneak into their country are treated.

What happens if you sneak into Canada, Russia, Mexico, Japan,
England? Are we more or less harsh then those governments?

I understand Mexico is not very nice to folks that enter Mexico of
the south illegally....

paul


Don't know about Mexico or Russia, but I suspect that Canada, England,
Japan (and many, many other countries) detain and deport.

As for those countries that are on a completely different level of
harshness, my thought is always that we shouldn't lower ourselves to
that sad level. We're supposed to be better than they are, and should
act like it.

BW

Paul Oman wrote:


I've always felt we should folks who sneak into the USA the same way
folks who sneak into their country are treated.

What happens if you sneak into Canada, Russia, Mexico, Japan, England?
Are we more or less harsh then those governments?

I understand Mexico is not very nice to folks that enter Mexico of the
south illegally....

paul


I suggest you all read " Building a North American Community"
sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations. This book outlines the
agreements reached in 2005 by the US, Canada, and Mexico.
Among other things, they wish to have open borders by 2010 which is
why the US gov has refused to do anything about our southern border.
They also wish to have economies on a par which is why our dollar was
deliberately devalued to a par with Canada.
This book is cheap and is only 50 pages and offers a lot of insight
as to why things are happening as they are.
Gordon

On Apr 6, 4:11 pm, Gordon wrote:
Paul Oman wrote:

I've always felt we should folks who sneak into the USA the same way
folks who sneak into their country are treated.

What happens if you sneak into Canada, Russia, Mexico, Japan, England?
Are we more or less harsh then those governments?

I understand Mexico is not very nice to folks that enter Mexico of the
south illegally....

paul

I suggest you all read " Building a North American Community"
sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations. This book outlines the
agreements reached in 2005 by the US, Canada, and Mexico.
Among other things, they wish to have open borders by 2010 which is
why the US gov has refused to do anything about our southern border.
They also wish to have economies on a par which is why our dollar was
deliberately devalued to a par with Canada.
This book is cheap and is only 50 pages and offers a lot of insight
as to why things are happening as they are.
Gordon



This is not true - in fact, bush and company have recently suspended
many environmental restrictions so they can build their fence along
the US/Mexico border (which won't work, but that's just my opinion).
Check out "www.snopes.com", a website dedicated to validating or
invalidating stories like this which has been making the rounds for
years. Here's the link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/nau.asp

BW wrote:
On Apr 6, 4:11 pm, Gordon wrote:
Paul Oman wrote:

I've always felt we should folks who sneak into the USA the same way
folks who sneak into their country are treated.
What happens if you sneak into Canada, Russia, Mexico, Japan, England?
Are we more or less harsh then those governments?
I understand Mexico is not very nice to folks that enter Mexico of the
south illegally....
paul
I suggest you all read " Building a North American Community"
sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations. This book outlines the
agreements reached in 2005 by the US, Canada, and Mexico.
Among other things, they wish to have open borders by 2010 which is
why the US gov has refused to do anything about our southern border.
They also wish to have economies on a par which is why our dollar was
deliberately devalued to a par with Canada.
This book is cheap and is only 50 pages and offers a lot of insight
as to why things are happening as they are.
Gordon



This is not true - in fact, bush and company have recently suspended
many environmental restrictions so they can build their fence along
the US/Mexico border (which won't work, but that's just my opinion).
Check out "www.snopes.com", a website dedicated to validating or
invalidating stories like this which has been making the rounds for
years. Here's the link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/nau.asp

Bush did nothing until the political pressure became too great.
As for the rest, get the book and read it for yourself. This is not a
conspiracy book, it was published by the participants!
Gordon

On Apr 6, 7:11 pm, Gordon wrote:
BW wrote:
On Apr 6, 4:11 pm, Gordon wrote:
Paul Oman wrote:

I've always felt we should folks who sneak into the USA the same way
folks who sneak into their country are treated.
What happens if you sneak into Canada, Russia, Mexico, Japan, England?
Are we more or less harsh then those governments?
I understand Mexico is not very nice to folks that enter Mexico of the
south illegally....
paul
I suggest you all read " Building a North American Community"
sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations. This book outlines the
agreements reached in 2005 by the US, Canada, and Mexico.
Among other things, they wish to have open borders by 2010 which is
why the US gov has refused to do anything about our southern border.
They also wish to have economies on a par which is why our dollar was
deliberately devalued to a par with Canada.
This book is cheap and is only 50 pages and offers a lot of insight
as to why things are happening as they are.
Gordon

This is not true - in fact, bush and company have recently suspended
many environmental restrictions so they can build their fence along
the US/Mexico border (which won't work, but that's just my opinion).
Check out "www.snopes.com", a website dedicated to validating or
invalidating stories like this which has been making the rounds for
years. Here's the link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/nau.asp

Bush did nothing until the political pressure became too great.
As for the rest, get the book and read it for yourself. This is not a
conspiracy book, it was published by the participants!
Gordon

Gordon,
With all due respect, did you look at the snopes website I posted?
BW

"BW" wrote in message
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On Apr 6, 7:11 pm, Gordon wrote:
BW wrote:
On Apr 6, 4:11 pm, Gordon wrote:
Paul Oman wrote:

I've always felt we should folks who sneak into the USA the same way
folks who sneak into their country are treated.
What happens if you sneak into Canada, Russia, Mexico, Japan,
England?
Are we more or less harsh then those governments?
I understand Mexico is not very nice to folks that enter Mexico of
the
south illegally....
paul
I suggest you all read " Building a North American Community"
sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations. This book outlines the
agreements reached in 2005 by the US, Canada, and Mexico.
Among other things, they wish to have open borders by 2010 which is
why the US gov has refused to do anything about our southern border.
They also wish to have economies on a par which is why our dollar was
deliberately devalued to a par with Canada.
This book is cheap and is only 50 pages and offers a lot of insight
as to why things are happening as they are.
Gordon

This is not true - in fact, bush and company have recently suspended
many environmental restrictions so they can build their fence along
the US/Mexico border (which won't work, but that's just my opinion).
Check out "www.snopes.com", a website dedicated to validating or
invalidating stories like this which has been making the rounds for
years. Here's the link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/nau.asp

Bush did nothing until the political pressure became too great.
As for the rest, get the book and read it for yourself. This is not a
conspiracy book, it was published by the participants!
Gordon

Gordon,
With all due respect, did you look at the snopes website I posted?
BW

I did, thanks. ;-) That damned snopes sqashes all the fun stuff, doesn't
it?

Gerry

BW wrote:
On Apr 6, 7:11 pm, Gordon wrote:
BW wrote:
On Apr 6, 4:11 pm, Gordon wrote:
Paul Oman wrote:
I've always felt we should folks who sneak into the USA the same way
folks who sneak into their country are treated.
What happens if you sneak into Canada, Russia, Mexico, Japan, England?
Are we more or less harsh then those governments?
I understand Mexico is not very nice to folks that enter Mexico of the
south illegally....
paul
I suggest you all read " Building a North American Community"
sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations. This book outlines the
agreements reached in 2005 by the US, Canada, and Mexico.
Among other things, they wish to have open borders by 2010 which is
why the US gov has refused to do anything about our southern border.
They also wish to have economies on a par which is why our dollar was
deliberately devalued to a par with Canada.
This book is cheap and is only 50 pages and offers a lot of insight
as to why things are happening as they are.
Gordon
This is not true - in fact, bush and company have recently suspended
many environmental restrictions so they can build their fence along
the US/Mexico border (which won't work, but that's just my opinion).
Check out "www.snopes.com", a website dedicated to validating or
invalidating stories like this which has been making the rounds for
years. Here's the link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/nau.asp
Bush did nothing until the political pressure became too great.
As for the rest, get the book and read it for yourself. This is not a
conspiracy book, it was published by the participants!
Gordon

Gordon,
With all due respect, did you look at the snopes website I posted?
BW

With all due respect, the snopes site says nothing in respect to
"Building A North American Community" that I referred to.
Please go to http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/ and read the pdf
file which is the book. Read carefully and between the lines.
BTW $1 usd is equal to $1 Canadian and has been for some time and will
stay there.
Gordon

Gordon,
With all due respect, did you look at the snopes website I posted?
BW

With all due respect, the snopes site says nothing in respect to
"Building A North American Community" that I referred to.
Please go to http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/ and read the pdf file
which is the book. Read carefully and between the lines.
BTW $1 usd is equal to $1 Canadian and has been for some time and will
stay there.
Gordon
hmmm, the link I opened addressed that book quite specifically. And when
did $1US become equal to $1 Can? It's been about 18 months since I was last
in Canada and there was a 15% differential then.

Gerry

Paul Oman wrote:

I understand Mexico is not very nice to folks that enter Mexico of the
south illegally....

If you're sneaking into Mexico, you've got to be up to no good or cuckoo
in the head.

On Apr 6, 6:11*pm, Gordon wrote:
Paul Oman wrote:

I've always felt we should folks who sneak into the USA the same way
folks who sneak into their country are treated.

What happens if you sneak into Canada, Russia, Mexico, Japan, England?
Are we more or less harsh then those governments?

I understand Mexico is not very nice to folks that enter Mexico of the
south illegally....

paul

* *I suggest you all read " Building a North American Community"
sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations. This book outlines the
agreements reached in 2005 by the US, Canada, and Mexico.
* Among other things, they wish to have open borders by 2010 which is
why *the US gov has refused to do anything about our southern border.
They also wish to have economies on a par which is why our dollar was
deliberately devalued to a par with Canada.
* *This book is cheap and is only 50 pages and offers a lot of insight
as to why things are happening as they are.
* Gordon