On Apr 7, 9:24*am, HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
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On Apr 7, 8:19 am, "JimH" wrote:
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Any computer, regardless of the OS it is running, initially needs
tweaking
so it can reach it's full speed potential.
I've got a new Dell laptop with 2 gig, running Vista being delivered
Wednesday. How should I tweak it?
I would start by looking at the programs running in the background and
disabling all but the necessary ones such as your firewall, antivirus and
antispyware (speaking of which, make sure you install good antivirus and
antispyware programs).

Why? You've stated here that Vista isn't a resource hog.....

The unnecessary crap that loads when the PC is booted is installed by the PC
manufacturer and in no way has anything to do with Vista and is operation.

William Bruce wrote:
Any computer, regardless of the OS it is running, initially needs tweaking
so it can reach it's full speed potential.

I've got a new Dell laptop with 2 gig, running Vista being delivered
Wednesday. How should I tweak it?



Return it to Dell and ask them to send you a computer with
WinXP. Also ask them to send you a WinXP install disk, format the
harddrive and give your self a clean WinXP install without all of the
demo software, spyware, bloatware etc. Then install only the software
you want to use.

Even if you uninstall all of the software, you will still have remnants
of them left behind in the registry.

Spybot and HiJack This allows you to review the start up registry and
see how much crap is running in the background, but if you are not
familiar with what should and should not be running, you can cause more
problems by deleting items.

William Bruce wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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"William Bruce" wrote in message
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Any computer, regardless of the OS it is running, initially needs
tweaking
so it can reach it's full speed potential.
I've got a new Dell laptop with 2 gig, running Vista being delivered
Wednesday. How should I tweak it?

I would start by looking at the programs running in the background and
disabling all but the necessary ones such as your firewall, antivirus and
antispyware (speaking of which, make sure you install good antivirus and
antispyware programs).
I'm one of those "toaster" users referred to here. How do you look at and
modify the programs running in the background?



That is why I would recommend you do a clean install by formatting the
disk. If you want your computer to run up to it's full potential, you
will need to use WinXP. No matter how good of a job you do removing
unneccessary programs, you computer will run faster on WinXP than Vista.
My son used WinXP in college and MAC and Vista when he worked in the
graphic art dept. for a large consumer company. Vista is MS's "New
Coke", sure some people like the extra sugar in New Coke, but the vast
majority of people thought it sucked. It is the same way with Vista.
Most people do not see any advantage, but see lots of disadvantages.

One of the people I helped set up their new HP Vista computer, told me
the next day that they purchased the computer so their grandkids could
play a new game that would not run on their 4 yr old computer. Guess
what, it wouldn't run on Vista either.

Reginald Smithers III wrote:
William Bruce wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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"William Bruce" wrote in message
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Any computer, regardless of the OS it is running, initially needs
tweaking
so it can reach it's full speed potential.
I've got a new Dell laptop with 2 gig, running Vista being
delivered Wednesday. How should I tweak it?

I would start by looking at the programs running in the background
and disabling all but the necessary ones such as your firewall,
antivirus and antispyware (speaking of which, make sure you install
good antivirus and antispyware programs).
I'm one of those "toaster" users referred to here. How do you look at
and modify the programs running in the background?


That is why I would recommend you do a clean install by formatting the
disk.



*Reggie* would recommend...now that is a laugh.

Reggie the computer expert.

Even funnier.

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On Apr 7, 9:24 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Apr 7, 8:19 am, "JimH" wrote:

"William Bruce" wrote in message
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Any computer, regardless of the OS it is running, initially needs
tweaking
so it can reach it's full speed potential.

I've got a new Dell laptop with 2 gig, running Vista being delivered
Wednesday. How should I tweak it?

I would start by looking at the programs running in the background and
disabling all but the necessary ones such as your firewall, antivirus
and
antispyware (speaking of which, make sure you install good antivirus and
antispyware programs).

Why? You've stated here that Vista isn't a resource hog.....

The unnecessary crap that loads when the PC is booted is installed by the
PC
manufacturer and in no way has anything to do with Vista and is operation.
Whether it runs as TSRs or is just pre-installed "trial" applications, the
stuff is a revenue generator for the manufacturer. It helps to keep the
price of the hardware down.

BUT, if Vista wasn't the resource hog that it is, the TSR's would run
fine.
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I'm not sure you understand the meaning of TSR. There's no problem with the
typical TSRs running on Vista, when they are called upon. No more so than
WinXP.

TSR is an acronym for Terminate Stay Ready. Most of them aren't doing
anything after they load during boot. Most of them don't use a lot of RAM.
Check in Windows Task Manager under processes and you can see just how much
memory they occupy. They are just loaded to be "ready" if called upon. No
different than WinXP. RAM is cheap.

The little bit I've used Vista on my dual boot PC I don't see any slow down
do to the typical load of TSRs. The more you load at boot the longer the
boot time will be. There are other issues inherent to the OS that cause
problems for some applications, but they aren't due to TSRs.

Granted, Vista needs more RAM than MS may recommend as "adequate" to run at
reasonable speed. Same thing applies to WinXP.

D.Duck wrote:
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On Apr 7, 9:24 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Apr 7, 8:19 am, "JimH" wrote:

"William Bruce" wrote in message
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Any computer, regardless of the OS it is running, initially needs
tweaking
so it can reach it's full speed potential.
I've got a new Dell laptop with 2 gig, running Vista being delivered
Wednesday. How should I tweak it?
I would start by looking at the programs running in the background and
disabling all but the necessary ones such as your firewall, antivirus
and
antispyware (speaking of which, make sure you install good antivirus and
antispyware programs).
Why? You've stated here that Vista isn't a resource hog.....

The unnecessary crap that loads when the PC is booted is installed by the
PC
manufacturer and in no way has anything to do with Vista and is operation.
Whether it runs as TSRs or is just pre-installed "trial" applications, the
stuff is a revenue generator for the manufacturer. It helps to keep the
price of the hardware down.

BUT, if Vista wasn't the resource hog that it is, the TSR's would run
fine.
==============================

I'm not sure you understand the meaning of TSR. There's no problem with the
typical TSRs running on Vista, when they are called upon. No more so than
WinXP.

TSR is an acronym for Terminate Stay Ready. Most of them aren't doing
anything after they load during boot. Most of them don't use a lot of RAM.
Check in Windows Task Manager under processes and you can see just how much
memory they occupy. They are just loaded to be "ready" if called upon. No
different than WinXP. RAM is cheap.

The little bit I've used Vista on my dual boot PC I don't see any slow down
do to the typical load of TSRs. The more you load at boot the longer the
boot time will be. There are other issues inherent to the OS that cause
problems for some applications, but they aren't due to TSRs.

Granted, Vista needs more RAM than MS may recommend as "adequate" to run at
reasonable speed. Same thing applies to WinXP.




My desktop computer boots up with a boatload of "stuff" running, most of
which is by my choice. I'm still waiting for "Reggie" or one of other
computer idiot savants to provide me with a list of programs and
processes on my desktop machine that are running perceptibly "slower" on
VISTA than they would on their desktop machine running XP. Oh, and since
my 32-bit VISTA addressed four gigs of RAM and their 32-bit XP cannot,
let's do a comparison while several really large and intensive programs
are running.

I'm sure "Reggie" can google up the answer... :)

On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:38:53 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

TSR is an acronym for Terminate Stay Ready.

Long before TSR was Terminate Stay Ready it meant something else.

Old enough to remember? :)

On Apr 7, 1:11*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:21:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I wonder if Reggie gets HIS information from Yahoo blogs......

On that line, almost everybody *can* be an "expert" with all the info
on the net. *If you can understand the basics it becomes a question of
sorting the chaff from the wheat.
For somebody not really interested in computers except that the
computer should do what's necessary, the big deal is to select a good
computer and OS at the outset. *A setup that does what you want.
That's pretty easy to do after a little reading.
Once you get into special apps it's a bit more complicated, but
basically the same approach. *Find out what others are using for the
app, and go that way.
I get a kick out of one of my kids - the gamer with 6 computers -
still arguing with one of his workmates at the shop about Intel vs.
AMD. *Then he drops by after work to tell me stuff like "John still
thinks his AMD quad core is faster than the Intel XXX."
He's actually all excited about this.
I always ask him "You still arguing about that ****?"
But I listen for a while to give him an outlet, and calm him down.
Me, I play high-end games and do fine with an 865PE chipset and a
good video card, still AGP. *GeForce 6800. *Running *XP.
I can probably run whatever else I want too, but I dumped the heavier
stuff like Oracle and Powerbuilder when I got out of the business.
Got two identical setups in case one breaks.
This is really old stuff in PC terms.
But then my Chevys are a 1990 and a 1997, and they run fine too.
It's mostly priorities and personal taste in the end.
If a single woman wants basic transportation the only answer I have is
"Get a Corolla."
If a novice wants just a basic PC I would probably say get a cheap big
box PC with XP installed and leave it at that. .
I would probably add "If you want more info on PC's and OS'es, visit
rec.boats. *Lot's of experts there."

--Vic

Bingo!

"JimH" wrote in message
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This site offers a free test and makes recommendations based on the test
results:

http://pcpitstop.com/pcpitstop/default.asp

No need to register.



I must be a geek!!
Ran the test (had to use IE instead of Firefox because even though I have
the latest version of Firefox, I couldn't
load the "IE tab" plug-in)

Anyway, here's the summary of the results from PCPitstop:

Computer Name: (deleted)
Date Tested: Mon Apr 7 12:54:46 EDT 2008

This system performs extremely well on our benchmarks and appears to be
among the fastest systems available! See the information below for your
system details and advice on how to tweak the hardware and software for best
performance.



Cool. I wonder what I am doing correctly?



Eisboch

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:38:53 -0400, D.Duck wrote:


I'm not sure you understand the meaning of TSR. There's no problem with
the typical TSRs running on Vista, when they are called upon. No more
so than WinXP.

With multitasking OSs and protected memory, Terminate-Stay-Resident
programs are a thing of the past, the long lost DOS past.