Around 5/30/2008 2:04 PM, JimH wrote:

Freshwater is always the best option.


Unless it's a wood boat.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

On Jun 1, 7:54 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 5/30/2008 2:04 PM, JimH wrote:

Freshwater is always the best option.

Unless it's a wood boat.

--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

A good friend of mine has a '69 Lyman (wood). It indeed requires a
lot of work but would it require less if used in salt water?

Around 6/1/2008 5:03 PM, JimH wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:54 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 5/30/2008 2:04 PM, JimH wrote:

Freshwater is always the best option.
Unless it's a wood boat.

--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

A good friend of mine has a '69 Lyman (wood). It indeed requires a
lot of work but would it require less if used in salt water?

There a lot of nasty wood-eating parasites that live in fresh water. You
do have to worry more about fitting corrosion in salt, but keep the rain
off and the zincs and bottom paint fresh, and the hull will last longer
than in fresh.

-- Or so I've been told, and it's worked well so far for dad's '42
Chris, which has spent her entire life in salt (well, brackish) water
covered moorage.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

On Jun 1, 8:30 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 6/1/2008 5:03 PM, JimH wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:54 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 5/30/2008 2:04 PM, JimH wrote:

Freshwater is always the best option.
Unless it's a wood boat.

--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

A good friend of mine has a '69 Lyman (wood). It indeed requires a
lot of work but would it require less if used in salt water?

There a lot of nasty wood-eating parasites that live in fresh water. You
do have to worry more about fitting corrosion in salt, but keep the rain
off and the zincs and bottom paint fresh, and the hull will last longer
than in fresh.

-- Or so I've been told, and it's worked well so far for dad's '42
Chris, which has spent her entire life in salt (well, brackish) water
covered moorage.

--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

Can you provide some links backing up that information?

I do not have a dog in this hunt but I would like to see verification
that wood powerboats last last longer in salt water vs. freshwater.

Around 6/1/2008 5:46 PM, JimH wrote:

On Jun 1, 8:30 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 6/1/2008 5:03 PM, JimH wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:54 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 5/30/2008 2:04 PM, JimH wrote:
Freshwater is always the best option.
Unless it's a wood boat.

A good friend of mine has a '69 Lyman (wood). It indeed requires a
lot of work but would it require less if used in salt water?
There a lot of nasty wood-eating parasites that live in fresh water. You
do have to worry more about fitting corrosion in salt, but keep the rain
off and the zincs and bottom paint fresh, and the hull will last longer
than in fresh.

-- Or so I've been told, and it's worked well so far for dad's '42
Chris, which has spent her entire life in salt (well, brackish) water
covered moorage.


Can you provide some links backing up that information?

I do not have a dog in this hunt but I would like to see verification
that wood powerboats last last longer in salt water vs. freshwater.

Like I said, I've been told; I haven't done any research on my own on
the topic, and the only evidence I can present is anecdotal. From the
quick searches I just did, most websites seem to agree that salt water
definitely has anti-fungal/anti-rot properties, with some people going
so far as to spread salt in the bilge.

That said, the Wooden Boat forum (http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/)
contains a wealth of knowledge about wooden boats and boating and a
quick Google search brings back over 300,000 hits:
http://www.google.com/search?q=woode...freshwater+rot

If you wanted a really authoritative answer, you might want to contact
the folks over at the Center for Wooden Boats: http://www.cwb.org



--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

Around 6/1/2008 6:39 PM, Garth Almgren wrote:

Around 6/1/2008 5:46 PM, JimH wrote:

On Jun 1, 8:30 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 6/1/2008 5:03 PM, JimH wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:54 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 5/30/2008 2:04 PM, JimH wrote:
Freshwater is always the best option.
Unless it's a wood boat.

A good friend of mine has a '69 Lyman (wood). It indeed requires a
lot of work but would it require less if used in salt water?
There a lot of nasty wood-eating parasites that live in fresh water. You
do have to worry more about fitting corrosion in salt, but keep the rain
off and the zincs and bottom paint fresh, and the hull will last longer
than in fresh.

-- Or so I've been told, and it's worked well so far for dad's '42
Chris, which has spent her entire life in salt (well, brackish) water
covered moorage.


Can you provide some links backing up that information?

I do not have a dog in this hunt but I would like to see verification
that wood powerboats last last longer in salt water vs. freshwater.

Like I said, I've been told; I haven't done any research on my own on
the topic, and the only evidence I can present is anecdotal. From the
quick searches I just did, most websites seem to agree that salt water
definitely has anti-fungal/anti-rot properties, with some people going
so far as to spread salt in the bilge.

That said, the Wooden Boat forum (http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/)
contains a wealth of knowledge about wooden boats and boating and a
quick Google search brings back over 300,000 hits:
http://www.google.com/search?q=woode...freshwater+rot

If you wanted a really authoritative answer, you might want to contact
the folks over at the Center for Wooden Boats: http://www.cwb.org

Here's a good one:
http://www.woodenboat.com/forum//showthread.php?t=8105

My understanding is that while salt water will prevent most bottom-up
rot, rainwater combined with poor ventilation is more likely to be the
cause of top-down rot, and that's how most wood boats rot.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...
Around 6/1/2008 6:39 PM, Garth Almgren wrote:

Around 6/1/2008 5:46 PM, JimH wrote:

On Jun 1, 8:30 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 6/1/2008 5:03 PM, JimH wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:54 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 5/30/2008 2:04 PM, JimH wrote:
Freshwater is always the best option.
Unless it's a wood boat.

A good friend of mine has a '69 Lyman (wood). It indeed requires a
lot of work but would it require less if used in salt water?
There a lot of nasty wood-eating parasites that live in fresh water.
You
do have to worry more about fitting corrosion in salt, but keep the
rain
off and the zincs and bottom paint fresh, and the hull will last longer
than in fresh.

-- Or so I've been told, and it's worked well so far for dad's '42
Chris, which has spent her entire life in salt (well, brackish) water
covered moorage.


Can you provide some links backing up that information?

I do not have a dog in this hunt but I would like to see verification
that wood powerboats last last longer in salt water vs. freshwater.

Like I said, I've been told; I haven't done any research on my own on the
topic, and the only evidence I can present is anecdotal. From the quick
searches I just did, most websites seem to agree that salt water
definitely has anti-fungal/anti-rot properties, with some people going so
far as to spread salt in the bilge.

That said, the Wooden Boat forum (http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/)
contains a wealth of knowledge about wooden boats and boating and a quick
Google search brings back over 300,000 hits:
http://www.google.com/search?q=woode...freshwater+rot

If you wanted a really authoritative answer, you might want to contact
the folks over at the Center for Wooden Boats: http://www.cwb.org

Here's a good one:
http://www.woodenboat.com/forum//showthread.php?t=8105

My understanding is that while salt water will prevent most bottom-up rot,
rainwater combined with poor ventilation is more likely to be the cause of
top-down rot, and that's how most wood boats rot.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

I 've heard the same stuff. Including the adding salt to the bilge of a
fresh water wood boat. Makes sense when you consider how old some of the
tall ships can get.

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:23:42 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...
Around 6/1/2008 6:39 PM, Garth Almgren wrote:

Around 6/1/2008 5:46 PM, JimH wrote:

On Jun 1, 8:30 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 6/1/2008 5:03 PM, JimH wrote:

On Jun 1, 7:54 pm, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 5/30/2008 2:04 PM, JimH wrote:
Freshwater is always the best option.
Unless it's a wood boat.

A good friend of mine has a '69 Lyman (wood). It indeed requires a
lot of work but would it require less if used in salt water?
There a lot of nasty wood-eating parasites that live in fresh water.
You
do have to worry more about fitting corrosion in salt, but keep the
rain
off and the zincs and bottom paint fresh, and the hull will last longer
than in fresh.

-- Or so I've been told, and it's worked well so far for dad's '42
Chris, which has spent her entire life in salt (well, brackish) water
covered moorage.


Can you provide some links backing up that information?

I do not have a dog in this hunt but I would like to see verification
that wood powerboats last last longer in salt water vs. freshwater.

Like I said, I've been told; I haven't done any research on my own on the
topic, and the only evidence I can present is anecdotal. From the quick
searches I just did, most websites seem to agree that salt water
definitely has anti-fungal/anti-rot properties, with some people going so
far as to spread salt in the bilge.

That said, the Wooden Boat forum (http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/)
contains a wealth of knowledge about wooden boats and boating and a quick
Google search brings back over 300,000 hits:
http://www.google.com/search?q=woode...freshwater+rot

If you wanted a really authoritative answer, you might want to contact
the folks over at the Center for Wooden Boats: http://www.cwb.org

Here's a good one:
http://www.woodenboat.com/forum//showthread.php?t=8105

My understanding is that while salt water will prevent most bottom-up rot,
rainwater combined with poor ventilation is more likely to be the cause of
top-down rot, and that's how most wood boats rot.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

I 've heard the same stuff. Including the adding salt to the bilge of a
fresh water wood boat. Makes sense when you consider how old some of the
tall ships can get.

Especially in the case of the ones built of steel. The Coast Guards
ship is ex Kreigsmarine, built as a training ship in the thirties. The
Germans had three and they are all still around.

Casady

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:17:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:54:52 -0700, Garth Almgren
wrote:

Around 5/30/2008 2:04 PM, JimH wrote:

Freshwater is always the best option.


Unless it's a wood boat.

To some extent.

In days of old, it was common practice to occasionally take whaling
ships and other large wooden vessels up a river to fresh water for a
period of time to kill salt water parasites.

The scourge of tropical waters and wood is the shipworm. Properly,
teredo. The have a rasplike head and can do as through a job as
termites.

Casady

wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:19:30 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:17:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:54:52 -0700, Garth Almgren
wrote:

Around 5/30/2008 2:04 PM, JimH wrote:

Freshwater is always the best option.

Unless it's a wood boat.
To some extent.

In days of old, it was common practice to occasionally take whaling
ships and other large wooden vessels up a river to fresh water for a
period of time to kill salt water parasites.
The scourge of tropical waters and wood is the shipworm. Properly,
teredo. The have a rasplike head and can do as through a job as
termites.

Casady

Yes, pretty much everybody who knows even a little about old wooden
ships knows this top secret piece of trivia, Dick.


Ahh...yet another rec.boats snarkmeister.