On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:28:00 -0500, lid wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
States Rights?

The states have the right to collect the fees. :)

But the license still works only in the one state, right? In other
words, you still have to buy the license in every state you fish in?

As it stands at this moment, yes. Further, if your state regulations
don't comply with the NOAA standard when it becomes official, you will
have to obtain a NOAA license/permit in addition to the state license.

The problem is that this has been a classic case of paradigm effect
resulting in paradigm paralysis. To put it in plain language, tried
and true is better than new and NOAA has locked everybody into the
same box instead of looking out the box's windows for something
different.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:29:55 -0500, lid wrote:

PhantMan wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
States Rights?

The states have the right to collect the fees. :)

But the license still works only in the one state, right? In other
words, you still have to buy the license in every state you fish in?

And each state still gets to set its own non-resident fee level,
right?

That is correct - NOAA doesn't care how much is charged (although they
have a "suggested range"), they just want the registry and the data.

On Jun 17, 7:42*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Well, I had a very productive conversation with Mike Bucko who is one
of the New England representatives and part of the overall process.

Apparently, the states that have current licensening systems will have
to adjust to the NOAA standard - that's a no debate issue apparently.

Which means that, according to mandate, ALL people who fish in salt
water will be required to obtain a license and/or permit.

Further, the one license/permits for multiple passengers (commonly
called a "boat license") that states like Maryland and Virginia have
will not comply with the licensing/permitting system - all passengers
will be required to have a license permit and be registered with the
system - no exceptions.

And, this is interesting, there is no debate allowed - NOAA has formed
the system and has tested it in the Gulf states, deemed it fit with
some minor tweaking and while they have some patience with the states
involved, they will impose the registry at the end of 2009 - not 2011
as some have stated.

Oh well.

Which means that, according to mandate, ALL people who fish in salt
water will be required to obtain a license and/or permit.

Does this surprise you? Did you think you could just keep on fishing
without putting SOMETHING back in?

We've had Licensing for quite awhile now...as a matter of fact, I
phoned the Ministry on this American Carpetbagger who thought he and
his Canadian Wife could just fish as much as they wanted out of the
St.Clair, and Erie, and sell the **** at her B&B for $14 per plate.He
was out with a " buddy " when the Ministry put the other guys boat on
the truck, and took it, and them , away.
Gee, I wonder how surprised HE was when the Ministry showed up and
took his Boat, Car, Scaling Machine, and 3 freezers full of Perch and
Pickeral.
They should deport the prick.
He was real tough and mouthy when I questioned him the first time.I
guess the douchebags laughing out of his ass now, the ****. That'll
teach him.
The stupid bitch that married him may loose her B&B as well.....