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On Jun 22, 2:55*pm, "Jim" wrote:
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GDSmith wrote:
sigh


I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.


I wouldn't worry about it too much - there are ignorant people
everywhere.


I'd like to thank you for posting the note - my brother lives just off
Lake Erie on the other side of Cleveland and we've taken our boat up
there for several lake runs - always a good time. *It just surprises
me that people go out running that late at night (approx 12:30 am),
presumably above 20mph, with MINIMAL lighting on the boat. *I'm sorry
that this resulted in a loss of life, but I can't imagine running
around in those conditions - even if there was a (near) full moon on
Monday.


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Harpers Ferry, WV


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http://ICanHelp56.homestead.com/Baja001.html


JimH would consider your boat to be a "I call them "Go Fast" or
"Obnoxious" boats."


Tread lightly. *He can be a huge asshole.


What do you mean "can be"?


How old did you boys say you are?
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On Jun 21, 4:53*pm, "Don White" wrote:
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On Jun 20, 10:16 am, GDSmith wrote:



sigh


I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.


I wouldn't worry about it too much - there are ignorant people
everywhere.


I'd like to thank you for posting the note - my brother lives just off
Lake Erie on the other side of Cleveland and we've taken our boat up
there for several lake runs - always a good time. It just surprises
me that people go out running that late at night (approx 12:30 am),
presumably above 20mph, with MINIMAL lighting on the boat. I'm sorry
that this resulted in a loss of life, but I can't imagine running
around in those conditions - even if there was a (near) full moon on
Monday.


--------------------------
GDSmith
Harpers Ferry, WV


2003 Baja 242 Islanderhttp://ICanHelp56.homestead.com/Baja001.html


I was talking with one of the owners of our marina yesterday and this
accident came up. *I then brought up another fatal accident several
years back also involving a cigarette boat hitting another boat at a
high rate of speed.

He told me that the man who was killed was a docker at his marina. *He
had just graduated from college with high honors and his parent
purchased him the 29 foot boat as a graduation gift. *They went out on
the boat for the first time when a man from Leamington, Canada plowed
his 38 foot boat at 50 mph into the young mans boat.

The accident occurred in broad daylight.

http://justice.org/homepage/boat1008.aspx

http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX/ACT-4248

At least the drunk operator received some jail time. *If the event had
occured up here, he may have gotten house arrest.http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...ackay-sentence...


We have some members here who continue to want to take this NG into
the sewer. Their childish and insulting comments in this *on topic*
thread prove it.

Too bad.
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On Jun 20, 7:28 am, wrote:
On Jun 19, 5:15 pm, JimH wrote:

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/arti...ont/795327.txt
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Quote: Authorities have not ruled out operator inattention, speed or
alcohol as a cause of the accident. They did not believe wind or water
conditions played a role.


What's your point? The "authorities" also haven't ruled out suicide,
heart attack, seizure, diabetic coma, a fall, and on and on.



sigh

I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.
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Interesting post. Sounds like both boats were under power.

I am no maritime law expert, but I suspect the surviving captain has some
answering to do. Leaving the scene not looking for the other boats
passengers to start. Since both are under power, some fault goes to both.
His argument leaving might hold, but safety over the boat.... will make an
interesting read when the reports come out.


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On Jun 20, 10:16 am, GDSmith wrote:
sigh

I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.


I wouldn't worry about it too much - there are ignorant people
everywhere.

I'd like to thank you for posting the note - my brother lives just off
Lake Erie on the other side of Cleveland and we've taken our boat up
there for several lake runs - always a good time. It just surprises
me that people go out running that late at night (approx 12:30 am),
presumably above 20mph, with MINIMAL lighting on the boat. I'm sorry
that this resulted in a loss of life, but I can't imagine running
around in those conditions - even if there was a (near) full moon on
Monday.

--------------------------
GDSmith
Harpers Ferry, WV

2003 Baja 242 Islanderhttp://ICanHelp56.homestead.com/Baja001.html


I was talking with one of the owners of our marina yesterday and this
accident came up. I then brought up another fatal accident several
years back also involving a cigarette boat hitting another boat at a
high rate of speed.

He told me that the man who was killed was a docker at his marina. He
had just graduated from college with high honors and his parent
purchased him the 29 foot boat as a graduation gift. They went out on
the boat for the first time when a man from Leamington, Canada plowed
his 38 foot boat at 50 mph into the young mans boat.

The accident occurred in broad daylight.

http://justice.org/homepage/boat1008.aspx

http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX/ACT-4248

At least the drunk operator received some jail time. If the event had
occured up here, he may have gotten house arrest.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...e.html?ref=rss


Also cost him 4.1M.

Part of his sentence should have been pulling his drivers license and never
to drive a boat again. I remember reading something they are starting to do
this in Canada where if you are intoxicated, they treat it just like DWI.
Good deal.


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On Jun 22, 4:25*pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
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"JimH" wrote in message
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On Jun 20, 10:16 am, GDSmith wrote:
sigh


I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.


I wouldn't worry about it too much - there are ignorant people
everywhere.


I'd like to thank you for posting the note - my brother lives just off
Lake Erie on the other side of Cleveland and we've taken our boat up
there for several lake runs - always a good time. It just surprises
me that people go out running that late at night (approx 12:30 am),
presumably above 20mph, with MINIMAL lighting on the boat. I'm sorry
that this resulted in a loss of life, but I can't imagine running
around in those conditions - even if there was a (near) full moon on
Monday.


--------------------------
GDSmith
Harpers Ferry, WV


2003 Baja 242 Islanderhttp://ICanHelp56.homestead.com/Baja001.html


I was talking with one of the owners of our marina yesterday and this
accident came up. *I then brought up another fatal accident several
years back also involving a cigarette boat hitting another boat at a
high rate of speed.


He told me that the man who was killed was a docker at his marina. *He
had just graduated from college with high honors and his parent
purchased him the 29 foot boat as a graduation gift. *They went out on
the boat for the first time when a man from Leamington, Canada plowed
his 38 foot boat at 50 mph into the young mans boat.


The accident occurred in broad daylight.


http://justice.org/homepage/boat1008.aspx


http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX/ACT-4248


At least the drunk operator received some jail time. *If the event had
occured up here, he may have gotten house arrest.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...ackay-sentence...


Also cost him 4.1M.

Part of his sentence should have been pulling his drivers license and never
to drive a boat again. *I remember reading something they are starting to do
this in Canada where if you are intoxicated, they treat it just like DWI.
Good deal.


A cheap price to pay for taking the life of a 'top of his class' young
man.


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JimH wrote:

A cheap price to pay for taking the life of a 'top of his class' young
man.


What is the price to pay for taking the life of a 'bottom of his class'
young man? Who determines the value of a life? Who determines the
potential of that life.
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BAR wrote:
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A cheap price to pay for taking the life of a 'top of his class' young
man.


What is the price to pay for taking the life of a 'bottom of his class'
young man?



You planning to "off" yourself to collect the insurance?

:)
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
JimH wrote:

A cheap price to pay for taking the life of a 'top of his class' young
man.


What is the price to pay for taking the life of a 'bottom of his
class' young man?



You planning to "off" yourself to collect the insurance?

:)


You wish!
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On Jun 23, 8:21*am, BAR wrote:
JimH wrote:

A cheap price to pay for taking the life of a 'top of his class' young
man.


What is the price to pay for taking the life of a 'bottom of his class'
young man? Who determines the value of a life? Who determines the
potential of that life.



Potential lifetime earnings.

Life is always precious and as sad as it may sound but the life of a
doctor is worth more to the jury than the life of someone who dropped
out of high school.
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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
JimH wrote:

A cheap price to pay for taking the life of a 'top of his class' young
man.

What is the price to pay for taking the life of a 'bottom of his
class' young man?



You planning to "off" yourself to collect the insurance?

:)


You wish!




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