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Quote: Authorities have not ruled out operator inattention, speed or
alcohol as a cause of the accident. They did not believe wind or water
conditions played a role.

While Steinle was never tested for alcohol in his system, his boat was
boarded and inspected by the U.S. Coast Guard minutes before the
crash. One of his lights had a problem that was corrected on the spot,
Johnston said.

Miller's recovered body will undergo toxicology tests.

The Ohio Department of Natural Resources in Columbus does not have a
record of Miller ever owning a boating education card. The law is that
anyone born after Jan. 1, 1982, must complete an education course
before operating a watercraft of greater than 10 horsepower.

"According to our records, he did not have any completion of any
boater safety class that we're aware of," Wisse said. "It doesn't mean
he didn't complete something, somewhere, but we don't have a record of
it."

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On Jun 19, 5:15*pm, JimH wrote:
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Quote: *Authorities have not ruled out operator inattention, speed or
alcohol as a cause of the accident. They did not believe wind or water
conditions played a role.


What's your point? The "authorities" also haven't ruled out suicide,
heart attack, seizure, diabetic coma, a fall, and on and on.

On Jun 20, 7:28*am, wrote:
On Jun 19, 5:15*pm, JimH wrote:

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Quote: *Authorities have not ruled out operator inattention, speed or
alcohol as a cause of the accident. They did not believe wind or water
conditions played a role.

What's your point? The "authorities" also haven't ruled out suicide,
heart attack, seizure, diabetic coma, a fall, and on and on.


sigh

I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.

sigh

I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.


I wouldn't worry about it too much - there are ignorant people
everywhere.

I'd like to thank you for posting the note - my brother lives just off
Lake Erie on the other side of Cleveland and we've taken our boat up
there for several lake runs - always a good time. It just surprises
me that people go out running that late at night (approx 12:30 am),
presumably above 20mph, with MINIMAL lighting on the boat. I'm sorry
that this resulted in a loss of life, but I can't imagine running
around in those conditions - even if there was a (near) full moon on
Monday.

--------------------------
GDSmith
Harpers Ferry, WV

2003 Baja 242 Islander
http://ICanHelp56.homestead.com/Baja001.html

On Jun 20, 9:21*am, JimH wrote:
On Jun 20, 7:28*am, wrote:

On Jun 19, 5:15*pm, JimH wrote:

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---------------------------------------------------------------------------**--------------------------------

Quote: *Authorities have not ruled out operator inattention, speed or
alcohol as a cause of the accident. They did not believe wind or water
conditions played a role.

What's your point? The "authorities" also haven't ruled out suicide,
heart attack, seizure, diabetic coma, a fall, and on and on.

sigh

I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.

I should have known you aren't bright enough to understand. It's the
tone and tact with which you posted, quoting a small part of the big
picture. And the quote was just plain silly, no matter who made it.

On Jun 20, 10:27*am, wrote:
On Jun 20, 9:21*am, JimH wrote:





On Jun 20, 7:28*am, wrote:

On Jun 19, 5:15*pm, JimH wrote:

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/arti...ont/795327.txt
---------------------------------------------------------------------------***--------------------------------

Quote: *Authorities have not ruled out operator inattention, speed or
alcohol as a cause of the accident. They did not believe wind or water
conditions played a role.

What's your point? The "authorities" also haven't ruled out suicide,
heart attack, seizure, diabetic coma, a fall, and on and on.

sigh

I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.

I should have known you aren't bright enough to understand. It's the
tone and tact with which you posted, quoting a small part of the big
picture. And the quote was just plain silly, no matter who made it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I didn't think so, but anyway.. I am sitting here wondering why most
boats I have been on have a "dead man's throttle". I think I will
start a thread.

On Jun 20, 10:29*am, wrote:
On Jun 20, 10:27*am, wrote:



On Jun 20, 9:21*am, JimH wrote:

On Jun 20, 7:28*am, wrote:

On Jun 19, 5:15*pm, JimH wrote:

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/arti...ont/795327.txt
---------------------------------------------------------------------------***--------------------------------

Quote: *Authorities have not ruled out operator inattention, speed or
alcohol as a cause of the accident. They did not believe wind or water
conditions played a role.

What's your point? The "authorities" also haven't ruled out suicide,
heart attack, seizure, diabetic coma, a fall, and on and on.

sigh

I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.

I should have known you aren't bright enough to understand. It's the
tone and tact with which you posted, quoting a small part of the big
picture. And the quote was just plain silly, no matter who made it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I didn't think so, but anyway.. I am sitting here wondering why most
boats I have been on have a "dead man's throttle". I think I will
start a thread.

The accident I reported is a prime reason for the kill switch w/
lanyard. Many (most?) States require them on boats and PWC's. Even
the 5 hp outboard I have has one.

On Jun 20, 10:16*am, GDSmith wrote:
sigh

I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.


I wouldn't worry about it too much - there are ignorant people
everywhere.

I'd like to thank you for posting the note - my brother lives just off
Lake Erie on the other side of Cleveland and we've taken our boat up
there for several lake runs - always a good time. *It just surprises
me that people go out running that late at night (approx 12:30 am),
presumably above 20mph, with MINIMAL lighting on the boat. *I'm sorry
that this resulted in a loss of life, but I can't imagine running
around in those conditions - even if there was a (near) full moon on
Monday.

--------------------------
GDSmith
Harpers Ferry, WV

2003 Baja 242 Islanderhttp://ICanHelp56.homestead.com/Baja001.html

I agree with you regarding the operators being out at such a late hour
and traveling at excessive speeds.

I would be surprised if it is determined that alcohol was not involved.

On Jun 20, 10:51*am, JimH wrote:
On Jun 20, 10:16*am, GDSmith wrote:





sigh

I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.


I wouldn't worry about it too much - there are ignorant people
everywhere.

I'd like to thank you for posting the note - my brother lives just off
Lake Erie on the other side of Cleveland and we've taken our boat up
there for several lake runs - always a good time. *It just surprises
me that people go out running that late at night (approx 12:30 am),
presumably above 20mph, with MINIMAL lighting on the boat. *I'm sorry
that this resulted in a loss of life, but I can't imagine running
around in those conditions - even if there was a (near) full moon on
Monday.

--------------------------
GDSmith
Harpers Ferry, WV

2003 Baja 242 Islanderhttp://ICanHelp56.homestead.com/Baja001.html

I agree with you regarding the operators being out at such a late hour
and traveling at excessive speeds.

I would be surprised if it is determined that alcohol was not involved.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nice, guilty already.......typical.

GDSmith wrote:
sigh

I should have known better than to post something relating to boating
here.


I wouldn't worry about it too much - there are ignorant people
everywhere.

I'd like to thank you for posting the note - my brother lives just off
Lake Erie on the other side of Cleveland and we've taken our boat up
there for several lake runs - always a good time. It just surprises
me that people go out running that late at night (approx 12:30 am),
presumably above 20mph, with MINIMAL lighting on the boat. I'm sorry
that this resulted in a loss of life, but I can't imagine running
around in those conditions - even if there was a (near) full moon on
Monday.

--------------------------
GDSmith
Harpers Ferry, WV

2003 Baja 242 Islander
http://ICanHelp56.homestead.com/Baja001.html

JimH would consider your boat to be a "I call them "Go Fast" or
"Obnoxious" boats."

Tread lightly. He can be a huge asshole.