Well, after 17 hours, $475 worth of gas, having to buy a small rain
forest to make up for all the expelled carbon, we're comfortably
ensconsed in Lexington, SC after a 17 hour ride dragging my Ranger
down the inland route.

Now, on to two weeks of fishing, fishing and more fishing.

Plus the occasional side trip to keep SWMBO happy.

Note to all drivers in Virginia - past, present and future.

YOU SUCK!!!

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

Well, after 17 hours, $475 worth of gas, having to buy a small rain
forest to make up for all the expelled carbon, we're comfortably
ensconsed in Lexington, SC after a 17 hour ride dragging my Ranger
down the inland route.

Now, on to two weeks of fishing, fishing and more fishing.

Plus the occasional side trip to keep SWMBO happy.

Note to all drivers in Virginia - past, present and future.

YOU SUCK!!!


If you go into lake Marion and Moultrie.....REMEMBER THE STUMP FARMS!

Even if the stumps don't get you....there are huge waterlogged logs running
through both lakes at any depth that USED to be chained down to the bottom
when the lakes were formed....

The fishing is great, though....so they put up with it.

Larry wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

Well, after 17 hours, $475 worth of gas, having to buy a small rain
forest to make up for all the expelled carbon, we're comfortably
ensconsed in Lexington, SC after a 17 hour ride dragging my Ranger
down the inland route.

Now, on to two weeks of fishing, fishing and more fishing.

Plus the occasional side trip to keep SWMBO happy.

Note to all drivers in Virginia - past, present and future.

YOU SUCK!!!


If you go into lake Marion and Moultrie.....REMEMBER THE STUMP FARMS!

Even if the stumps don't get you....there are huge waterlogged logs running
through both lakes at any depth that USED to be chained down to the bottom
when the lakes were formed....

The fishing is great, though....so they put up with it.

What possible and hopefully logical answer can tell me why anyone in
their right mind would chain a log to the bottom of a lake?

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Well, after 17 hours, $475 worth of gas, having to buy a small rain
forest to make up for all the expelled carbon, we're comfortably
ensconsed in Lexington, SC after a 17 hour ride dragging my Ranger
down the inland route.

Now, on to two weeks of fishing, fishing and more fishing.

Plus the occasional side trip to keep SWMBO happy.

Note to all drivers in Virginia - past, present and future.

YOU SUCK!!!



I thought I felt a momentary shift in the force...

"DownTime" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

Well, after 17 hours, $475 worth of gas, having to buy a small rain
forest to make up for all the expelled carbon, we're comfortably
ensconsed in Lexington, SC after a 17 hour ride dragging my Ranger
down the inland route.

Now, on to two weeks of fishing, fishing and more fishing.

Plus the occasional side trip to keep SWMBO happy.

Note to all drivers in Virginia - past, present and future.

YOU SUCK!!!


If you go into lake Marion and Moultrie.....REMEMBER THE STUMP FARMS!

Even if the stumps don't get you....there are huge waterlogged logs
running through both lakes at any depth that USED to be chained down to
the bottom when the lakes were formed....

The fishing is great, though....so they put up with it.

What possible and hopefully logical answer can tell me why anyone in their
right mind would chain a log to the bottom of a lake?

Fish attractor.

I swear I think all the lakes in the south east have stump fields. Both our
local lakes here in Raleigh have areas where they left trees standing that
have long since rotted off at the water line. I know Hartwell and Kerr both
have stumps as well.

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:16:39 -0400, DownTime wrote:


What possible and hopefully logical answer can tell me why anyone in
their right mind would chain a log to the bottom of a lake?

Time.

http://www.centralsc.org/content/?nid=70&cid=116

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:16:39 -0400, DownTime wrote:


What possible and hopefully logical answer can tell me why anyone in
their right mind would chain a log to the bottom of a lake?

Time.

http://www.centralsc.org/content/?nid=70&cid=116


Money...it was done on the cheap.


On the St. Johns River near Green Cove Springs, the "unseen waters" near
the shorelines are full of pilings that represent the remains of docks
long gone. Some are just enough below the surface to play havoc with any
sort of prop on any sort of drive. Maybe it has changed now, but when I
lived and boated in NE Florida, no effort was made to mark any of these.
There are other parts of the river with submerged pilings, of course,
but there were a hell of a lot of them concentrated just north of the
Shands Bridge.

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:28:28 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:16:39 -0400, DownTime wrote:


What possible and hopefully logical answer can tell me why anyone in
their right mind would chain a log to the bottom of a lake?

Time.

http://www.centralsc.org/content/?nid=70&cid=116


Money...it was done on the cheap.


On the St. Johns River near Green Cove Springs, the "unseen waters" near
the shorelines are full of pilings that represent the remains of docks
long gone. Some are just enough below the surface to play havoc with any
sort of prop on any sort of drive. Maybe it has changed now, but when I
lived and boated in NE Florida, no effort was made to mark any of these.
There are other parts of the river with submerged pilings, of course,
but there were a hell of a lot of them concentrated just north of the
Shands Bridge.

I'll agree money was the usual reason trees were left standing on some
impoundments, but according to the link I posted, the Santee Cooper
project was declared "necessary for national defense" during WWII. Why,
exactly, I don't know, but there was a rush to complete it, leaving trees
chained to stumps.

DownTime wrote in
:

What possible and hopefully logical answer can tell me why anyone in
their right mind would chain a log to the bottom of a lake?



During the Depression, when the lakes were created, the loggers were in the
same shape as the rest of the country, starving to death. They lacked the
resources to get the logs out of the lake bed before the lake filled up
because there was noone to buy the logs at closed lumber mills across the
country. Noone wanted the logs.

So, in their infinite wisdom, the Santee-Cooper state-run power company
decided the cheapest way to get rid of the unwanted lumber was to chain it
down to the bottom of the lake with large log chains, never thinking the
logs would eventually shrink enough to float their way out of their bonds.

I lost an Evinrude 70, ripping it right off the back of a trihull runabout,
to one in the channel of Lake Marion about where I-95 goes over the lake,
back in the 1970s.

The fishermen are all thrilled that these terrible hazards of floating logs
and rotten tree stumps 6" below the surface of the lake in vast forests
that never even got cut down are the way they are. The rotting forests
make fantastic breeding grounds for the land-locked striped bass both lakes
are world famous for, breeding lots of real monsters with all that cover to
protect the young from its parents and predators. The hazardous lakes also
keep other boaters away from these fishing grounds by tearing up their
boats and making boating so hazardous it keeps them away to easier venues
or down near the deep water at the dams, leaving thousands of hectares of
excellent fish breeding and fishing grounds unmolested by spinning props.
They wouldn't have it any other way....

wrote in
t:

I'll agree money was the usual reason trees were left standing on some
impoundments, but according to the link I posted, the Santee Cooper
project was declared "necessary for national defense" during WWII.
Why, exactly, I don't know, but there was a rush to complete it,
leaving trees chained to stumps.



The state owned and operated Santee-Cooper power company, who owns the
lakes, provided power for the many defense industries in Charleston, such
as the Koppers plant making creosote telephone poles, the Chromalloy major
polluters making chrome steel used widely in all kinds of weapons, and the
Charleston Navy Base and Charleston Naval Shipyard that serviced the fleet
for over 100 years, now all gone by politics and stupidity and greed.

Before Santee-Cooper, Charleston was way too short of power to power much
of the defense industry needed for the Germans and Japanese warlords.
Today, we have a large steel mill located just downstream from the dam and
a huge aluminum smelter to use up the power in Goose Creek, SC. The
Santee-Cooper project is still providing power to industry, including
defense industry uses.