"hk" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Turns out is really is his.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gore-hi...new-houseboat/

Well, to answer the question...

Now we know it is his. :)


According to the article you cited, the boat burns biodiesel at the rate
of 2 gallons an hour...so...what's your point? Your little boat burns more
fuel than that.


Is that at idle? Most houseboats 50-60' get about 1 mpg. Even doubling the
mileage via diesel, sats the boat is going to go 4 mph to achive a 2 gallon
/per hour burn. And the boat is a lot bigger than the 1mpg ones.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"hk" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Turns out is really is his.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gore-hi...new-houseboat/

Well, to answer the question...

Now we know it is his. :)


According to the article you cited, the boat burns biodiesel at the rate
of 2 gallons an hour...so...what's your point? Your little boat burns
more fuel than that.


Is that at idle? Most houseboats 50-60' get about 1 mpg. Even doubling
the mileage via diesel, sats the boat is going to go 4 mph to achive a 2
gallon /per hour burn. And the boat is a lot bigger than the 1mpg ones.


I am a bit doubtful of the 2 gallon an hour figure also. The 36' GB we had
burned about the same at 6-7 kts. with a 120 hp diesel. Granted, Gore's
houseboat has a much more modern diesel, but I suspect it is bigger and it's
pushing a heck of a lot more weight. I wonder what the "cruise" speed is
..... maybe 2 kts?

Eisboch

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 03:57:56 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Is that at idle? Most houseboats 50-60' get about 1 mpg. Even doubling
the mileage via diesel, sats the boat is going to go 4 mph to achive a 2
gallon /per hour burn. And the boat is a lot bigger than the 1mpg ones.


I am a bit doubtful of the 2 gallon an hour figure also. The 36' GB we had
burned about the same at 6-7 kts. with a 120 hp diesel. Granted, Gore's
houseboat has a much more modern diesel, but I suspect it is bigger and it's
pushing a heck of a lot more weight. I wonder what the "cruise" speed is
.... maybe 2 kts?

2 gph is absolutley bogus for anything much faster than walking speed.
That implies a gas engine putting out less than 20 hp or a diesel
putting out less than 40. It's true that a diesel 40 with the right
reduction gear and prop would move it along at a very slow cruise but
that's not the way most people would want to run it.

Most house boats need a lot more power than that just for maneuvering
since they have a huge amount of windage. In any kind of crosswind
they will move as fast sideways as straight ahead. There are a lot
of rental house boats on the Rideau Canal in Canada. Watching them
maneuver in and out of the locks on a windy day is pretty good
entertainment.

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On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:24:27 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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"hk" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Turns out is really is his.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gore-hi...new-houseboat/

Well, to answer the question...

Now we know it is his. :)


According to the article you cited, the boat burns biodiesel at the rate
of 2 gallons an hour...so...what's your point? Your little boat burns
more
fuel than that.


Is that at idle? Most houseboats 50-60' get about 1 mpg. Even doubling
the
mileage via diesel, sats the boat is going to go 4 mph to achive a 2
gallon
/per hour burn. And the boat is a lot bigger than the 1mpg ones.



Sounds bogus to me too. We rented a 65' on Lake Powell and it had two
4 stroke 60s on it (just like mine). At very close to WOT this thing
did about 8 MPH. From my experience with my engine I put the
consumption at 2x4GPH (8) or the 1 MPG you stated

My... you wouldn't want to cruise too far on that rig.

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:33:25 -0300, "Don White"
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:24:27 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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"hk" wrote in message
news:OMSdneONtaXLYATVnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@comcast. com...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Turns out is really is his.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gore-hi...new-houseboat/

Well, to answer the question...

Now we know it is his. :)


According to the article you cited, the boat burns biodiesel at the
rate
of 2 gallons an hour...so...what's your point? Your little boat burns
more
fuel than that.


Is that at idle? Most houseboats 50-60' get about 1 mpg. Even doubling
the
mileage via diesel, sats the boat is going to go 4 mph to achive a 2
gallon
/per hour burn. And the boat is a lot bigger than the 1mpg ones.



Sounds bogus to me too. We rented a 65' on Lake Powell and it had two
4 stroke 60s on it (just like mine). At very close to WOT this thing
did about 8 MPH. From my experience with my engine I put the
consumption at 2x4GPH (8) or the 1 MPG you stated

My... you wouldn't want to cruise too far on that rig.


We went out of Page, cruised down about 3 "fingers" in the lake and it
took a couple hours.
It is really not bad because you really end up anchored up on the
beach anyway and you are just looking for a private one.
My only real gripe was you needed to get the 75' to get topside
steering so you are basically just a bus driver with no mirrors.
We really couldn't justify a 3 stateroom 75' boat for the two of us.

Thinking of doing a houseboat vacation on Powell with the kids and grandbaby
in maybe a year. Any good pointers? Will bring the jetboat also.

On Aug 8, 2:45*am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:33:25 -0300, "Don White"
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:24:27 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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"hk" wrote in message
news:OMSdneONtaXLYATVnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@comcast. com...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Turns out is really is his.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gore-hi...-massive-new-h...

Well, to answer the question...

Now we know it is his. *:)

According to the article you cited, the boat burns biodiesel at the
rate
of 2 gallons an hour...so...what's your point? Your little boat burns
more
fuel than that.

Is that at idle? *Most houseboats 50-60' get about 1 mpg. *Even doubling
the
mileage via diesel, sats the boat is going to go 4 mph to achive a 2
gallon
/per hour burn. *And the boat is a lot bigger than the 1mpg ones.

Sounds bogus to me too. We rented a 65' on Lake Powell and it had two
4 stroke 60s on it (just like mine). At very close to WOT this thing
did about 8 MPH. From my experience with my engine I put the
consumption at 2x4GPH (8) or the 1 MPG you stated

My... you wouldn't want to cruise too far on that rig.

We went out of Page, cruised down about 3 "fingers" in the lake and it
took a couple hours.
It is really not bad because you really end up anchored up on the
beach anyway and you are just looking for a private one.
My only real gripe was you needed to get the 75' to get topside
steering so you are basically just a bus driver with no mirrors.
We really couldn't justify a 3 stateroom 75' boat for the two of us.

Thinking of doing a houseboat vacation on Powell with the kids and grandbaby
in maybe a year. *Any good pointers? *Will bring the jetboat also.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

When we go on our fishing trip, we took our bass boats with us, towed
them behind the houseboat. That way, besides fishing, you could go to
a marina for supplies, etc. The **** tank seems to get full pretty
quick, but then there were usually 7 or 8 of us, eating real well.
Take along dvds because you may be in a place where there's no tv
reception. Also, check with them about their lines. We rented a
houseboat one time and they didn't have much for lines to tie up
anywhere. We would find a cove and run the houseboat in bow first to
have access to land. A storm came and whipped the houseboat around so
much that both of the inadequate lines they gave us broke.

On Aug 8, 12:36*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 05:35:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Thinking of doing a houseboat vacation on Powell with the kids and grandbaby
in maybe a year. *Any good pointers? *Will bring the jetboat also.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

When we go on our fishing trip, we took our bass boats with us, towed
them behind the houseboat. That way, besides fishing, you could go to
a marina for supplies, etc. The **** tank seems to get full pretty
quick, but then there were usually 7 or 8 of us, eating real well.
Take along dvds because you may be in a place where there's no tv
reception. Also, check with them about their lines. We rented a
houseboat one time and they didn't have much for lines to tie up
anywhere. We would find a cove and run the houseboat in bow first to
have access to land. A storm came and whipped the houseboat around so
much that both of the inadequate lines they gave us broke.

That sounds strange to me. The boat we rented had 1/2"or 5/8" yacht
braid anchor lines rigged from the stern, two anchors. You beached the
bow and put the anchors out at 45degree angles, dug into the sand with
a shovel. There was a big coil of this line on each side of the stern
and shorter docking lines on the bow, same style.

http://esteroriverheights.com/electr...ake_powell.jpg

We went out of Page but I understand Bullfrog is more secluded. With
the way gas prices are, the whole place may be more secluded now.
I don't really know anything about it that they don't tell you when
you rent the boat. I was sort of surprised they don't need the
operator to have any particular credentials to rent this boat. They
will come get you if you don't feel comfortable docking tho.
The first thing I did once we got well clear of the marina was to see
how it handled. With 2 screws you can maneuver these hogs around
pretty well ... if the wind isn't too bad. Visibility from the helm is
a problem. It is like driving a bus- Hide quoted text -

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No anchors at all on the houseboats at Grider Hill on Lake Cumberland.
I think maybe being rentals they don't want newbies getting the anchor
fouled or some such. I'll tell ya, a 70' or so houseboat with a single
75hp Evinrude is a handful!
Almost impossible in the wind. As a matter of fact, one year we got
there and there was a hell of a storm, and of course we wanted to get
out of the marina and get the festivities started, so they told us
where their maintenence dock was in a cove and we tied up to that.

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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:55:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Aug 8, 12:36 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 05:35:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Thinking of doing a houseboat vacation on Powell with the kids and
grandbaby
in maybe a year. Any good pointers? Will bring the jetboat also.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

When we go on our fishing trip, we took our bass boats with us, towed
them behind the houseboat. That way, besides fishing, you could go to
a marina for supplies, etc. The **** tank seems to get full pretty
quick, but then there were usually 7 or 8 of us, eating real well.
Take along dvds because you may be in a place where there's no tv
reception. Also, check with them about their lines. We rented a
houseboat one time and they didn't have much for lines to tie up
anywhere. We would find a cove and run the houseboat in bow first to
have access to land. A storm came and whipped the houseboat around so
much that both of the inadequate lines they gave us broke.

That sounds strange to me. The boat we rented had 1/2"or 5/8" yacht
braid anchor lines rigged from the stern, two anchors. You beached the
bow and put the anchors out at 45degree angles, dug into the sand with
a shovel. There was a big coil of this line on each side of the stern
and shorter docking lines on the bow, same style.

http://esteroriverheights.com/electr...ake_powell.jpg

We went out of Page but I understand Bullfrog is more secluded. With
the way gas prices are, the whole place may be more secluded now.
I don't really know anything about it that they don't tell you when
you rent the boat. I was sort of surprised they don't need the
operator to have any particular credentials to rent this boat. They
will come get you if you don't feel comfortable docking tho.
The first thing I did once we got well clear of the marina was to see
how it handled. With 2 screws you can maneuver these hogs around
pretty well ... if the wind isn't too bad. Visibility from the helm is
a problem. It is like driving a bus- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No anchors at all on the houseboats at Grider Hill on Lake Cumberland.
I think maybe being rentals they don't want newbies getting the anchor
fouled or some such. I'll tell ya, a 70' or so houseboat with a single
75hp Evinrude is a handful!
Almost impossible in the wind. As a matter of fact, one year we got
there and there was a hell of a storm, and of course we wanted to get
out of the marina and get the festivities started, so they told us
where their maintenence dock was in a cove and we tied up to that.

The houseboat operation on Lake Powell seems a little better
organized. They have a linen package you can rent, the ice and
supplies are right there on the dock but you should go up to Page to
get your food and such. There is a super walmart/kmart kinda place on
the road just over the dam on the Arizona side turn right, up there a
mile or two. The boat had a pretty good galley. They had VHF, a stereo
with 6 pack CD player and I think there was a TV but we don't really
watch TV on vacation.
I did pick the twin screw boat on purpose.

I know you can order the food and drink from, I think, Safeway and they
deliver to the boat.