On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:14:35 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:02:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:36:44 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

You missed the most obvious benefit. Rigs are hi-rise condos for all
types of marine life! Its all about the fishing!

Yes and no.

The common belief is that rigs and production platforms are fish
factories and that's not the case at all. In fact, there is some
evidence that the platforms may hurt the reproductive cycle because
fish won't leave the vicinity of the structure to reproduce.

That is by no means definitive, but tracking studies suggest that is
the case with certain species - in particular red snapper.

Having said that, certain types of reef fish thrive very nicely near
the structures - species like grouper for example have actually had
something of a resurgence because of the platforms.

The other issue is exactly what kinds of fish are attracted to the
platforms and what depths they can find shelter. For example, in the
North Sea, they have found that creating shelters creates some habitat
for cod fish, but that turns off other types of fish like haddock.
Haddock like to hang along linear objects placed around the platforms,
but that creates problems for cod.

I know in California, they've done a lot of research on this and have
developed some differing techniques depending on the dominant speices
where the rig resides. As it's more economically feasible for the
major oil companies to just leave the rigs in place rather than
disassemble them, they need to show some sort of benefit from doing so
and the exact benefit for leaving them in place has been hard to pin
down.

One interesting factoid is that the deep water rigs seem to attract
pelagic species at a higher rate that originally expected.

It's an interesting subject.

It is.... and seems to be, basically, attraction vs. production. There
doesn't seem to a single definitive answer.... and it is a question
that encompasses all artificial reefs.....

One of the curiosities about artificial reefs is height and staging.
All those subway cars they dumped off New Jersey are providing some
incredible data.

On Aug 11, 8:16*pm, DK wrote:
Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:





Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:36:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

wrote:

"round hear, we draw the line at 2nd cuzins but I got lucky an'
married a yankee who likes what I like ('cept she doesnt like
greens). *My yank in-laws would be ok if they'd just learn to cook.
Just tell them to add salt back to the vegetables and then overcook
them till you can't tell what they are. *
Nope, bacon. Lot's of bacon. And onions, and garlic, and some
Frank's Red
Hot sauce, or whatever they call it these days.
Southerns have never found a dish that was not improved with the
addition of some form of pork. *

If you like Frank's Red Hot, you would LOVE Crystal Hot Sauce. *
Better flavor than Frank's and the same mild heat.

There is only one hot sauce.

Tobasco.

This thread is now locked. *:)

Guess again. *!!!!!!

Tabasco is great, either in cooking or as a condiment, but sometimes it
can over power a delicate flavor, such as fish. *At those times (and
only at those times) is Crystal the preferred hot sauce.

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Nope. There was an actual blind study w/ trained chefs and Crystal was
the winner

On Aug 11, 6:29*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:02:03 GMT, John H.
wrote:





On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:29:50 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:18:46 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Man, I met a girl while living in Alabama.. Real redneck girl, think
daisy duke, just not a cute... * Hey, I'll be honest, I'm no wafa...
Anyway, she turned me on to Collard greens, they really sucked. But
the fried green 'maters, now that's good eats...

Turnip greens is good.

--Vic

They be the next best thing to collards. Then kale, then spinach. Then poke
weed. Then dandelions.

I like spinach, then turnip. *Didn't care for the collards my ma made,
and never tried kale.
You remember that guy Euell(sp?) Gibbons?
He wrote a few books about collecting and cooking greens and weeds.
I had one called "Stalking the Wild Asparagus."
Everything he picked he'd soak in butter when cooking.
Supposed to be in the "Health Book" genre, but I laughed when I saw
a stick of butter in every recipe for dandelions, grasses, etc.
Wasn't too surprised when he died fairly young of congestive heart
failure.
Now I like butter, but I don't want to eat a weed if it needs a stick
of butter to make eatable.

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I like any kind of greens, my favorite is beet greens, and then
collards, but only if they are cooked right.

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:
DK wrote:
Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald
P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:36:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

wrote:

"round hear, we draw the line at 2nd cuzins but I got lucky an'
married a yankee who likes what I like ('cept she doesnt like
greens). My yank in-laws would be ok if they'd just learn to cook.
Just tell them to add salt back to the vegetables and then
overcook them till you can't tell what they are.
Nope, bacon. Lot's of bacon. And onions, and garlic, and some
Frank's Red
Hot sauce, or whatever they call it these days.
Southerns have never found a dish that was not improved with the
addition of some form of pork.

If you like Frank's Red Hot, you would LOVE Crystal Hot Sauce.
Better flavor than Frank's and the same mild heat.

There is only one hot sauce.

Tobasco.

This thread is now locked. :)

Guess again. !!!!!!

Tabasco is great, either in cooking or as a condiment, but sometimes
it can over power a delicate flavor, such as fish. At those times
(and only at those times) is Crystal the preferred hot sauce.

NOW this thread is locked.

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Louisiana Hot Sauce beats Crystal any day!

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Didn't you mean LHS is better than Franks?

LHS has no flavor and even less heat.

It is the one my mother uses.

Now it is locked.


Not Frank's - never tried it. Crystal is loaded with vinegar and lacks
the flavor of LHS.

wrote:
On Aug 11, 8:16 pm, DK wrote:
Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:





Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:36:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
wrote:
"round hear, we draw the line at 2nd cuzins but I got lucky an'
married a yankee who likes what I like ('cept she doesnt like
greens). My yank in-laws would be ok if they'd just learn to cook.
Just tell them to add salt back to the vegetables and then overcook
them till you can't tell what they are.
Nope, bacon. Lot's of bacon. And onions, and garlic, and some
Frank's Red
Hot sauce, or whatever they call it these days.
Southerns have never found a dish that was not improved with the
addition of some form of pork.
If you like Frank's Red Hot, you would LOVE Crystal Hot Sauce.
Better flavor than Frank's and the same mild heat.
There is only one hot sauce.
Tobasco.
This thread is now locked. :)
Guess again. !!!!!!
Tabasco is great, either in cooking or as a condiment, but sometimes it
can over power a delicate flavor, such as fish. At those times (and
only at those times) is Crystal the preferred hot sauce.
NOW this thread is locked.
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Louisiana Hot Sauce beats Crystal any day!

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Nope. There was an actual blind study w/ trained chefs and Crystal was
the winner

What do blind chefs know?

Seriously, are we talking wings or use as another condiment? For wings,
I haven't found anything better than LHS.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:43:03 -0400, DK wrote:

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:
DK wrote:
Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald
P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:36:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

wrote:

"round hear, we draw the line at 2nd cuzins but I got lucky an'
married a yankee who likes what I like ('cept she doesnt like
greens). My yank in-laws would be ok if they'd just learn to cook.
Just tell them to add salt back to the vegetables and then
overcook them till you can't tell what they are.
Nope, bacon. Lot's of bacon. And onions, and garlic, and some
Frank's Red
Hot sauce, or whatever they call it these days.
Southerns have never found a dish that was not improved with the
addition of some form of pork.

If you like Frank's Red Hot, you would LOVE Crystal Hot Sauce.
Better flavor than Frank's and the same mild heat.

There is only one hot sauce.

Tobasco.

This thread is now locked. :)

Guess again. !!!!!!

Tabasco is great, either in cooking or as a condiment, but sometimes
it can over power a delicate flavor, such as fish. At those times
(and only at those times) is Crystal the preferred hot sauce.

NOW this thread is locked.

Unlock

Louisiana Hot Sauce beats Crystal any day!

Lock
unlocked

Didn't you mean LHS is better than Franks?

LHS has no flavor and even less heat.

It is the one my mother uses.

Now it is locked.


Not Frank's - never tried it. Crystal is loaded with vinegar and lacks
the flavor of LHS.

Go get some Franks. Fry a batch of chicken wings, mix a quarter cup of
melted butter with a half cup of Franks. Stir into the wings. Good stuff.
--
** Good Day! **

John H

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:45:09 -0400, DK wrote:

wrote:
On Aug 11, 8:16 pm, DK wrote:
Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:





Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:36:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
wrote:
"round hear, we draw the line at 2nd cuzins but I got lucky an'
married a yankee who likes what I like ('cept she doesnt like
greens). My yank in-laws would be ok if they'd just learn to cook.
Just tell them to add salt back to the vegetables and then overcook
them till you can't tell what they are.
Nope, bacon. Lot's of bacon. And onions, and garlic, and some
Frank's Red
Hot sauce, or whatever they call it these days.
Southerns have never found a dish that was not improved with the
addition of some form of pork.
If you like Frank's Red Hot, you would LOVE Crystal Hot Sauce.
Better flavor than Frank's and the same mild heat.
There is only one hot sauce.
Tobasco.
This thread is now locked. :)
Guess again. !!!!!!
Tabasco is great, either in cooking or as a condiment, but sometimes it
can over power a delicate flavor, such as fish. At those times (and
only at those times) is Crystal the preferred hot sauce.
NOW this thread is locked.
Unlock

Louisiana Hot Sauce beats Crystal any day!

Lock- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope. There was an actual blind study w/ trained chefs and Crystal was
the winner

What do blind chefs know?

Seriously, are we talking wings or use as another condiment? For wings,
I haven't found anything better than LHS.

Well, now you know where to look.
--
** Good Day! **

John H