hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 5:02 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
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JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 12:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
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On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH

wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year
old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain
it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been
looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like
wood is.
Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a
variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face
with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very
clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.
Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)
Came out pretty good.
Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors
try to
advise against it.
Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for
the
benefit of others. Research first.
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If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards
The composites get hot too.
They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.
Eisboch
I have a Trex deck. the Grey color. Gets hot, but not blazing
hot. Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. Is just as
easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal
expansion
is greater than wood. No problems at all, but buddy has had part
of his
Trex deck boards come apart.
I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.
1. Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.
2. Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.
3. Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship
YMMV.
Well, based upon the responses you have gotten from EON and the EON
contractor, it sounds like you have done a great job of researching this
project and you should be very happy with the results.

If there was a better product on the market or if EON had problems with
their product or installation, i am sure they would have told you.

My contractor sells and installs a variety of other decking products
besides EON.

You seem to be a very negative and unhappy person Reggie. Relax and
stop worrying about what other folks do with their lives.


Reggie *lives* for harassing others about their lives and their choices.




I am just trying to be helpful. I told JimH that he would not be happy
with Vista, yet he went out of his way to find "experts" in a Vista
forum who knew better than the real experts. He decides what he wants
to do, and then finds a way or people to justify his decision. One
needs to go into any decision making process with an open mind. If you
don't you will make the wrong decision way too many times. JimH is a
prefect example of that.

As he said, Vista only cost him a $150. The deck can be a very
expensive error. He thought processes for his deck are the same.

I really don't care if he is happy with his deck or not, but based upon
what I read about EON, it will make his other "great" decisions look
fairly reasonable.

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:24:02 -0500, Vic Smith
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:46:24 GMT, John H.
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:56:52 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:11:40 -0300, "Don White"
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Hee hee .............. told ya Loogie. As soon as we leave (if we ever
leave) you're next in the sights of the Dwarf Army.
Hope you own a good flak jacket.

From what I've seen here, if you leave this group will, in the words
of Frank Sinatra, "roll myself up in a big ball and die."
That's life.


I strongly doubt that, Vic.

Right. Be interesting to see though.
Last time one team left there were just a bunch of posts saying
"Nice and quiet here."
"Notice how peaceful it is here?"
etc, etc.
The ring was empty - nobody on the canvas.

--Vic

So? What the hell is wrong with peace and quiet and friendly conversation?
If people have boating questions, they're much more apt to bring them up
when peace and quiet exists.
--
** Good Day! **

John H

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:46:24 GMT, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:56:52 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:11:40 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Hee hee .............. told ya Loogie. As soon as we leave (if we ever
leave) you're next in the sights of the Dwarf Army.
Hope you own a good flak jacket.

From what I've seen here, if you leave this group will, in the words
of Frank Sinatra, "roll myself up in a big ball and die."
That's life.


I strongly doubt that, Vic.

Right. Be interesting to see though.
Last time one team left there were just a bunch of posts saying
"Nice and quiet here."
"Notice how peaceful it is here?"
etc, etc.
The ring was empty - nobody on the canvas.

--Vic

Did you notice that some real boaters emerged with real boating
questions? WAFA and the other two stooges have turned this place into a
political flame war.

The moderated group is even quieter since WAFA can't lash out at will
and is forced to play nice.

YOU QUOTED THIS WHOLE PAGE (about 5 times) FOR A 4 WORD REPLY ?

You re hopeless as is most of the posting in this SAD excuse for a NG
(Plonk)


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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH

wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH

wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment.
:)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year
old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain
it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been
looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
Haul JustWait down to help
If he acts up, show him the business end of your framming
hammer..-
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Nice, you've turned into a Harryclone.....

What??
First... JustWait and Tom are buddies
second... JustWait seems to have some experience working with wood
so
it
shouldn't be that big a jump to composite material
third.. JustWait has a habit of getting woundup at times but Tom
seems
able
to control anything too outrageous..
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Sure, DonHarry.

I know, that's where I went wrong..... offering a 'perfect sense'
solution in this group.

*Where* you went wrong was in not filtering out or completely
ignoring
Loogy. :) I dunno, Don...I might have to make a road trip up to the
Maritimes, take you out for a few beers, and have a serious chat!
:)

Must be all the rain this summer, I feel like my brain is waterlogged.
Too much wasted time reading rubbish from the Dwarf Army. Maybe
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The only people that will talk to you is each other! That's precious.

Not quite isolated yet. There's a guy named Loogie that can't seem to
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Speak for yourself, you reply to the nitwits all of the time.

I'm trying desperately to kick the habit. How about you?

Kick this...habit boy!

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH

wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH

wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment.
:)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year
old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain
it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been
looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
Haul JustWait down to help
If he acts up, show him the business end of your framming
hammer..-
Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Nice, you've turned into a Harryclone.....
What??
First... JustWait and Tom are buddies
second... JustWait seems to have some experience working with wood
so
it
shouldn't be that big a jump to composite material
third.. JustWait has a habit of getting woundup at times but Tom
seems
able
to control anything too outrageous..
I thought my suggestion made perfect sense.- Hide quoted text -
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Sure, DonHarry.
I know, that's where I went wrong..... offering a 'perfect sense'
solution in this group.
*Where* you went wrong was in not filtering out or completely
ignoring
Loogy. :) I dunno, Don...I might have to make a road trip up to the
Maritimes, take you out for a few beers, and have a serious chat!
:)
Must be all the rain this summer, I feel like my brain is waterlogged.
Too much wasted time reading rubbish from the Dwarf Army. Maybe
September/October will be better.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The only people that will talk to you is each other! That's precious.

Not quite isolated yet. There's a guy named Loogie that can't seem to
get
with the program.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Speak for yourself, you reply to the nitwits all of the time.

I'm trying desperately to kick the habit. How about you?
Kick this...habit boy!



YOU QUOTED THIS WHOLE PAGE (about 5 times) FOR A 4 WORD REPLY ?

You re hopeless as is most of the posting in this SAD excuse for a NG
(Plonk)

He's not very bright. That's the best he could do.