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On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

That about sums it up.

What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.

Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)

Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.

We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.

So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!

I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been looking
into the same deck boards and railing.

Don't know if I want to do it myself though.

You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like wood is.

Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.

Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)

Came out pretty good.

Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors try to
advise against it.

Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for the
benefit of others. Research first.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards

The composites get hot too.

They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.

Eisboch

I have a Trex deck. *the Grey color. *Gets hot, but not blazing hot. *Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. *Is just as easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal expansion
is greater than wood. *No problems at all, but buddy has had part of his
Trex deck boards come apart.

I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.

1. Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.
2. Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.
3. Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship

YMMV.

On Aug 18, 4:41*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 12:55*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:





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On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

That about sums it up.

What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.

Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)

Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.

We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain it.. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.

So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!

I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been looking
into the same deck boards and railing.

Don't know if I want to do it myself though.

You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like wood is.

Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.

Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)

Came out pretty good.

Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors try to
advise against it.

Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for the
benefit of others. Research first.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards

The composites get hot too.

They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.

Eisboch

I have a Trex deck. *the Grey color. *Gets hot, but not blazing hot.. *Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. *Is just as easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal expansion
is greater than wood. *No problems at all, but buddy has had part of his
Trex deck boards come apart.

I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.

1. *Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.

BULL****!!! Do you really think they re-tool the whole freakin' plant
to supply builders with a different product??????? You're a liar and
you know it.
2. *Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.

So? Anybody can learn a "technique", and as a matter of fact, the
installation procedures for EON are very easy to find.
3. *Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. *If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. *My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship

They all say that about anything. To get work. They don't want someone
doing it themselves.

JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 12:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like wood is.
Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.
Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)
Came out pretty good.
Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors try to
advise against it.
Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for the
benefit of others. Research first.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards
The composites get hot too.
They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.
Eisboch
I have a Trex deck. the Grey color. Gets hot, but not blazing hot. Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. Is just as easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal expansion
is greater than wood. No problems at all, but buddy has had part of his
Trex deck boards come apart.

I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.

1. Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.
2. Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.
3. Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship

YMMV.


Not to worry. If you had used redwood cover boards God himself had
selected for you, and therefore were perfect in every way, the usual
"gang of snarks" would bite your butt over the choice.




--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do.

— Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909)

JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 12:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like wood is.
Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.
Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)
Came out pretty good.
Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors try to
advise against it.
Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for the
benefit of others. Research first.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards
The composites get hot too.
They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.
Eisboch
I have a Trex deck. the Grey color. Gets hot, but not blazing hot. Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. Is just as easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal expansion
is greater than wood. No problems at all, but buddy has had part of his
Trex deck boards come apart.

I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.

1. Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.
2. Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.
3. Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship

YMMV.

Well, based upon the responses you have gotten from EON and the EON
contractor, it sounds like you have done a great job of researching this
project and you should be very happy with the results.

If there was a better product on the market or if EON had problems with
their product or installation, i am sure they would have told you.

hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 12:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain
it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been
looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like
wood is.
Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a
variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face
with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.
Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)
Came out pretty good.
Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors try to
advise against it.
Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for the
benefit of others. Research first.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards
The composites get hot too.
They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.
Eisboch
I have a Trex deck. the Grey color. Gets hot, but not blazing hot.
Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. Is just as easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal
expansion
is greater than wood. No problems at all, but buddy has had part of his
Trex deck boards come apart.

I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.

1. Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.
2. Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.
3. Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship

YMMV.


Not to worry. If you had used redwood cover boards God himself had
selected for you, and therefore were perfect in every way, the usual
"gang of snarks" would bite your butt over the choice.





Well we did try to warn him about the problems with Dell Computers and
Vista, and he found out we were right.

On Aug 18, 5:02*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 12:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like wood is.
Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.
Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)
Came out pretty good.
Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors try to
advise against it.
Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for the
benefit of others. Research first.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards
The composites get hot too.
They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.
Eisboch
I have a Trex deck. *the Grey color. *Gets hot, but not blazing hot. *Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. *Is just as easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal expansion
is greater than wood. *No problems at all, but buddy has had part of his
Trex deck boards come apart.

I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.

1. *Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.
2. *Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.
3. *Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. *If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. *My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship

YMMV.

Well, based upon the responses you have gotten from EON and the EON
contractor, it sounds like you have done a great job of researching this
project and you should be very happy with the results.

If there was a better product on the market or if EON had problems with
their product or installation, i am sure they would have told you.

My contractor sells and installs a variety of other decking products
besides EON.

You seem to be a very negative and unhappy person Reggie. Relax and
stop worrying about what other folks do with their lives.

On Aug 18, 5:04*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 12:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain
it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been
looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like
wood is.
Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a
variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face
with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.
Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)
Came out pretty good.
Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors try to
advise against it.
Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for the
benefit of others. Research first.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards
The composites get hot too.
They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.
Eisboch
I have a Trex deck. *the Grey color. *Gets hot, but not blazing hot. *
Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. *Is just as easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal
expansion
is greater than wood. *No problems at all, but buddy has had part of his
Trex deck boards come apart.

I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.

1. *Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.
2. *Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.
3. *Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. *If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. *My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship

YMMV.

Not to worry. If you had used redwood cover boards God himself had
selected for you, and therefore were perfect in every way, the usual
"gang of snarks" would bite your butt over the choice.

Well we did try to warn him about the problems with Dell Computers and
Vista, and he found out we were right.

And?

Nice to know someone who never made a mistake and in the case of
Vista, it was a minor one.

You are da' Man Reggie.

JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 5:02 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 12:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:q80ca4152o40v3ven6trabtf4ooln29hvk@4ax .com...
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like wood is.
Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.
Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)
Came out pretty good.
Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors try to
advise against it.
Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for the
benefit of others. Research first.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards
The composites get hot too.
They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.
Eisboch
I have a Trex deck. the Grey color. Gets hot, but not blazing hot. Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. Is just as easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal expansion
is greater than wood. No problems at all, but buddy has had part of his
Trex deck boards come apart.
I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.
1. Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.
2. Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.
3. Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship
YMMV.
Well, based upon the responses you have gotten from EON and the EON
contractor, it sounds like you have done a great job of researching this
project and you should be very happy with the results.

If there was a better product on the market or if EON had problems with
their product or installation, i am sure they would have told you.

My contractor sells and installs a variety of other decking products
besides EON.

You seem to be a very negative and unhappy person Reggie. Relax and
stop worrying about what other folks do with their lives.


Reggie *lives* for harassing others about their lives and their choices.



--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do.

— Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909)

JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 5:04 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 12:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:q80ca4152o40v3ven6trabtf4ooln29hvk@4ax .com...
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain
it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been
looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like
wood is.
Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a
variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face
with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.
Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)
Came out pretty good.
Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors try to
advise against it.
Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for the
benefit of others. Research first.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards
The composites get hot too.
They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.
Eisboch
I have a Trex deck. the Grey color. Gets hot, but not blazing hot.
Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. Is just as easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal
expansion
is greater than wood. No problems at all, but buddy has had part of his
Trex deck boards come apart.
I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.
1. Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.
2. Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.
3. Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship
YMMV.
Not to worry. If you had used redwood cover boards God himself had
selected for you, and therefore were perfect in every way, the usual
"gang of snarks" would bite your butt over the choice.
Well we did try to warn him about the problems with Dell Computers and
Vista, and he found out we were right.

And?

Nice to know someone who never made a mistake and in the case of
Vista, it was a minor one.

You are da' Man Reggie.


VISTA wasn't a mistake on your son's computer, it was just a poor choice
for him where he was going.


--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do.

— Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909)

On Aug 18, 5:43*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 5:02 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 18, 12:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Aug 15, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:q80ca4152o40v3ven6trabtf4ooln29hvk@4ax .com...
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 5:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:44:43 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:
That about sums it up.
What you need is a good, thin crust five cheese pizza.
Which is exactly what I'm going to eat at this very moment. :)
Sounds good. Burgers on the grill for us tonight.
We can finally use our deck tonight and cook out. Our 13 year old
cedar deck was beat up and I got tired of trying to maintain it. We
had the flooring replaced with Eon Ultra deck boards and Trex
railing.
The contractor started on Monday and finished the decking and
railing
today. The skirting will be finished on Monday.
So..........we can now use the deck and it looks great!
I've been thinking of replacing the deck on our house - been looking
into the same deck boards and railing.
Don't know if I want to do it myself though.
You do not want to do it yourself if you want professional looking
results. The guys doing our job were certified by Eon and Trex as
neither the decking or railing are a simple installation like wood is.
Eon decking was rated best by Consumer Reports testing in a variety of
categories. Mechanical fasteners are used below the deck face with no
fasteners used on the face of the decking resulting in a very clean
look. Our contractor upgraded us to Ultra (heavier) at no cost.
Can't be that hard - my next door neighbor did his deck with it and
he's a half-wit. :)
Came out pretty good.
Eon decking, unlike Trek and similar composites is 100% plastic. We
considered it at one point but were convinced to stick with the
composites.
Apparently, it is tricky to install properly and tends to "pop" and
"squeak" due to a higher thermal expansion coefficient. It also is
reported to scratch easily. We were told that most contractors try to
advise against it.
Not knocking the OP's choice .... just stating our experience for the
benefit of others. Research first.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If you are in the sun, the plastic gets hotter than fire, too! My
neighbor did an Eon deck, and took the boards up the next year and
used good old PT deck boards
The composites get hot too.
They just don't bend out of shape like Eon.
Eisboch
I have a Trex deck. *the Grey color. *Gets hot, but not blazing hot. *Have
had the deck in for 2 years now, and did it myself. *Is just as easy as
wood, just make sure there is a gap between boards as the thermal expansion
is greater than wood. *No problems at all, but buddy has had part of his
Trex deck boards come apart.
I spoke with my deck builder and the folks at EON today about some
concerns expressed here about the product.
1. *Contractor grade is stiffer and thicker than box store retail.
2. *Contractors installing the product are certified by EON and have
been trained and certified on the installation standards and
techniques.
3. *Retaining clips have changed over the past few years with the
present clips (out for the past 3 years) showing no history of
problems as prior clips did.
4. *If retaining clips and the last strips of decking are not
installed properly board may lift, especially if the last strip are
screwed down tight and without a small groove to allow the board to
move due to temperature changes. *My contractor said he has fixed many
"do it yourself" installations due to improper workmanship
YMMV.
Well, based upon the responses you have gotten from EON and the EON
contractor, it sounds like you have done a great job of researching this
project and you should be very happy with the results.

If there was a better product on the market or if EON had problems with
their product or installation, i am sure they would have told you.

My contractor sells and installs a variety of other decking products
besides EON.

You seem to be a very negative and unhappy person Reggie. *Relax and
stop worrying about what other folks do with their lives.

Reggie *lives* for harassing others about their lives and their choices.



You nailed it.