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2006 Evinrude E-tec problems 3:20 PM 2/27/2007 Reply Edit
Was wondering if anyone out there was having trouble with the Evinrude e-tec 150's. I recently purchased a new 28 ft RIB and installed new evinrude e-tecs. With less than 20 hrs on the boat, I have replaced three powerheads. One powerhead on the std motor (it blew up and put two holes on both sides of the block, have the pictures to prove it), and two on the counter rotating engine (piston came up and took out a spark plug then melted itself into the egine block). As the boat sits in the shop with its new powerheads and 45 minutes of use I was just told that the starter went out on the Std rotating engine. A cracked pinion gear that got stuck in the flywheel. After long deliberation with Evinrude, it was halfway determined that bad maps on the original engines caused the failures, meaning they do not know for sure. Very frustrated with these engines and ready to drive them into the ground next to the Titanic. Anyone else have trouble? From BassBoatCentral |
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2006 Evinrude E-tec problems 3:20 PM 2/27/2007 Reply Edit Was wondering if anyone out there was having trouble with the Evinrude e-tec 150's. I recently purchased a new 28 ft RIB and installed new evinrude e-tecs. With less than 20 hrs on the boat, I have replaced three powerheads. One powerhead on the std motor (it blew up and put two holes on both sides of the block, have the pictures to prove it), and two on the counter rotating engine (piston came up and took out a spark plug then melted itself into the egine block). As the boat sits in the shop with its new powerheads and 45 minutes of use I was just told that the starter went out on the Std rotating engine. A cracked pinion gear that got stuck in the flywheel. After long deliberation with Evinrude, it was halfway determined that bad maps on the original engines caused the failures, meaning they do not know for sure. Very frustrated with these engines and ready to drive them into the ground next to the Titanic. Anyone else have trouble? From BassBoatCentral I have wondered why Ficht was the best thing since sliced bread (when you owned one) and E-Tecs sucks now that you own a Yamaha? No matter what anyone thinks about E-Tec's vs 4 stroke, it is universally believed that E-Tec is a superior engine when compared to the Ficht? I can remember long diatribes about why you would NEVER own a 4 stroke, and Ficht was the ONLY way to go. |
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2006 Evinrude E-tec problems 3:20 PM 2/27/2007 Reply Edit Was wondering if anyone out there was having trouble with the Evinrude e-tec 150's. I recently purchased a new 28 ft RIB and installed new evinrude e-tecs. With less than 20 hrs on the boat, I have replaced three powerheads. One powerhead on the std motor (it blew up and put two holes on both sides of the block, have the pictures to prove it), and two on the counter rotating engine (piston came up and took out a spark plug then melted itself into the egine block). As the boat sits in the shop with its new powerheads and 45 minutes of use I was just told that the starter went out on the Std rotating engine. A cracked pinion gear that got stuck in the flywheel. After long deliberation with Evinrude, it was halfway determined that bad maps on the original engines caused the failures, meaning they do not know for sure. Very frustrated with these engines and ready to drive them into the ground next to the Titanic. Anyone else have trouble? From BassBoatCentral And a few mo ETEC Problems 9:13 AM 7/2/2008 Reply Edit Hello people, first of all I own an 2005 ETEC model number E60DPLSD. (Didn't want to get ridiculed...!) I was wondering if there was any other owners out there that have had issues with their similar size motor? Suffice it to say that mine has more hours on the trailer than in the water at this point and I am more than a bit frustrated. Every dealer I talk to say "they never see them come back" for work however I find that a bit hard to believe since mine has left me stranded at least 2 times a year since I have purchased it. They claim no scheduled maintenance for 3 years however it's the unschedule work that's killing me. I bought this thing because of the hype but I am wishing I had my old 25 year old Merc back now, and I am definately not a Merc fan. My arms are sore from paddling.... Any insight from anyone? Responses: ETEC Problems (rickdb1) » 9:32 AM 7/2/2008 Reply Edit well the first year i believe it was found there were issues with the wiring harness causing intermittent check engine and into SAFE mode. One minute it would work, the next you are doing 1200 RPMs with no warning. They fixed the faulty lead and that worked for about two hours of water running (3 hours of trailering) and it starting intermittently throwing check engine errors and shut the motor down. That was 3 trips back to get that resolved. This spring on a remote fishing trip it left us stranded overnight miles away from our camp with no shelter and food for the night. That was determined to be a plug gone bad. I can almost understand the plug thing if it wasn't for the fact that I have had other engines with normal plugs, and I change them out of routine maintenance, and not too frequently. Now it's throwing check engine and hot lights and it'a back to the dealer. I can't remember the other issues. It's really to the point now I don't like taking it anywhere for fear of being stranded. Not the reason I sold my 25 year old motor and bought a new one. I am just trying to understand if anyone else has seen this kind of thing. fish4bas GROWING OLDER BUT NOT UP... Offline 531 posts Beckley W.V. ETEC Problems (johan_smyth) » 10:19 AM 7/2/2008 Reply Edit I have an 2006 225 E-Tec Ho. How did your dealer find the wiring harness problem, it sounds like that could be the issue with my motor as well. I have had mine to the shop several times and the computer is not picking up any faults. When i would first start the motor it would light up all the faults on the rpm gage and the motor would go into safe mode, and then i would half to keep turning the power off until it would work properly. The thing is that it only would do this 1 out of 5 times.. johan_smyth Member Offline 14 posts Brockville ON ETEC Problems (fish4bas) » 10:37 AM 7/2/2008 Reply Edit That sounds exactly like what mine was doing during the first year of problems. One minute it was working, next it wasn't and no codes when they put it on the computer. Not sure how they found it but another mechanic told me they did have problems with the harness in the early days. I am thinking now that maybe they should have replaced the whole thing. I had the same problem with a 2005 225 HO. I had the dealer change out the engine harness from motor to the console. When Champion rebuilt my hull, they put a screw thru the harness and shorted out a few wires. The ground wire was burnt to a crisp. This cost me $200.00 to have done and Champion would not even warranty the harness, even with the hole in the harness. Since the harness was replaced, the motor runs great. 2005 Evinrude ETEC 225 HO for Sale Warranty thru 4/2012 $10,500 Has anyone had any problems with their 2006 Etec H.O. motors? I have had Injection related failures where the plugs are oiled to the point of non-ignition. I slow troll at about 2000 rpm and never run the motor at max RPM. This has resulted in two tow incidents miles out into the Atlantic and one extremely dangerous situation. The first time my dealer says he replaced the needles that inject the oil with longer ones, this is the Evinrude reccomended fix for my application-slow trolling. The problem is that when the motor stalls on application of throttle, or when idling down, it won't restart. The starter actually will not sit and crank the motor. It disengages instantly after it tries to turn it over once or twice. These two incidences happened three weeks apart. please advise! The motor is on a 2101 Seaswirl WA. The motor is a 2006 with 60 hours on it. I have been using the XD100 oil at 100 to 1 since new. They are now telling me there is an injector problem and that is causing the failure and there is hydraulic lock on the motor. I actually had the motor running last time and under full throttle it did abot 7 knots, obviously running on 3 or 4 cylinders. There is no way it was running on 5, I shut it down imedialetly and it didn't restart. One faulty injector cannot foul the plugs in the other cylinders. To date Evinrude has not been great at customer service on this issue. I am a former American Honda employee and a Honda registered technician. They are telling me some pretty unusal things and not imediately handling it . At Honda our goal was to meet or exceed our customers expectations, especially on new products! If it was a Honda I would have a new motor and a free extended warranty. It seems as if Evinrude wants to troubleshoot this in the field at my expense. This motor should be at their R&D facility in Wisconsin or where ever they do it. I am almost ****ed, not yet though. My dealer is great and keeping me sane. I will let you know how they resolve it. Cross your fingers. Profile Private message Top of the page Bottom of the page Eastbound Posted 4/25/2006 9:40 PM (#1003485 - in reply to #990968) Subject: 200 Etec Problems Quote Reply Alert Offline Captain's Club Member Posts: 183 Member Since: 2/27/2006 Wish I would of never bought one!!! I just got mine back out of the shop again. When it blew up earlier this year they repaired it with a brand new 06 top end, but it seemed to be burning about three gallons more at wot then the old 05, and had a problem running smoothly at lower rpm's. Come to find out the computer they put on the motor at the assembly line was programmed for a 250 instead of a 225. What type of quality control is that?? Also had to have some sort of upgrade kit installed for the spark plugs fowling issues. Not a happy man with mine. They should stop spending so much money on those info commercials and figure out these motors!! |
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:20:11 -0400, hk wrote:
That was determined to be a plug gone bad. I can almost understand the plug thing if it wasn't for the fact that I have had other engines with normal plugs, and I change them out of routine maintenance, and not too frequently. The Lincoln Navigator tow vehicle got the recommended new plugs at 100 000 mi, although they looked fine. On the Navigator, it takes about two hours to change the plugs, so it is just as well they last so long. Platinum points. You can't get such a thing for your engine.? Casady |
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:20:11 -0400, hk wrote: That was determined to be a plug gone bad. I can almost understand the plug thing if it wasn't for the fact that I have had other engines with normal plugs, and I change them out of routine maintenance, and not too frequently. The Lincoln Navigator tow vehicle got the recommended new plugs at 100 000 mi, although they looked fine. On the Navigator, it takes about two hours to change the plugs, so it is just as well they last so long. Platinum points. You can't get such a thing for your engine.? Casady Uhhh...this was just a pass-along, not a post outlining a problem I was having with an internal combustion engine. :) I change the spark plugs on my lawn tractor once a year. Takes less than five minutes, including unwrapping the plugs and checking their gaps. Haven't had to check the plugs on my trusty Husky chain saw or on my string trimmer. :) |
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