On Aug 26, 4:32*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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TJ wrote:
hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.

But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ

If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.

Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.

Oh! *There is a free lunch?

D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.

All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. *Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. *Ain't America great.

Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............

No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.

I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.

JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. Ain't America great.

Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............

No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.

I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.


Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? :)

On Aug 26, 4:47*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

m...

Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! *There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. *Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. *Ain't America great.

Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............

No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.

I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.

Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? * :)

Sounds interesting. So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. Explain also how these plans are funded.

On Aug 26, 4:50*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:47*pm, hk wrote:





JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

m...

Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting.. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! *There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. *Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. *Ain't America great.

Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............

No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.

I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.

Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? * :)

Sounds interesting. *So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. *Explain also how these plans are funded.- Hide quoted text -

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Uh, oh...... lover's spat......

"hk" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:

Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html



snerk

Yup, snerk on your program.


Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.

Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.

Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.

JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:47 pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. Ain't America great.
Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............
No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.
I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.
Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? :)

Sounds interesting. So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. Explain also how these plans are funded.



I have no idea what you and your wife will get. I suggest you read the
proposals.

hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
)

Sounds interesting. So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. Explain also how these plans are funded.



I have no idea what you and your wife will get. I suggest you read the
proposals.

My guess is they will get the shaft.

On Aug 26, 4:57*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:47 pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:z4SdnattNfAw0ynVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast. com...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting.. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! *There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. *Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. *Ain't America great.
Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............
No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.
I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.
Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? * :)

Sounds interesting. *So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. *Explain also how these plans are funded.

I have no idea what you and your wife will get. I suggest you read the
proposals.

So who is eligible for all this free stuff? I want to sign up!

Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:

Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html


snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.

Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.

Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.

Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.



Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:31:28 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.

Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama
plan will have the following features:


Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims
and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for
the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also
included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was
done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html




snerk

Yup, snerk on your program.


CNN had a good discussion about Medicare fraud last night. And the use of
Medicare as a 'model' by Obama was mentioned also.

It's all about power. Promise the stupid anything to get a vote.