Senior Citizens Who Vote for McCain Should be Required to Renounce Any
Claim to Social Security or Medicare


Let's make it quite simple: any person over 65 who votes for John
McCain should first be required to renounce all claims to Social
Security and Medicare.

Why? It's quite simple.

McCain's largest age group of support (by percentage) is Americans
over the age of 65. Since McCain and the Republican Party have as
their main message (other than "we are the party of white people")
shrinking the size of government and letting everyone sink or swim on
their own, I do not believe that seniors who vote for McCain are
entitled to Social Security or Medicare, and that's just for starters
as far as government support of the elderly.


John "7-11 houses" McCain himself proudly collects and cashes his
social security check (and we are not making this up), as well
receiving a disability check from the government. He also has
received government medical care (which might have otherwise
bankrupted a struggling working stiff due to McCain's history of
multiple melanomas) for decades. In fact, McCain's entire adult life
-- except for a brief stint working for his wife's beer
distributorship -- has been on the public payroll. In short, we the
taxpayers, have paid for McCain's salary and benefits. (You would
think that with a fortune worth over $100 million dollars, enough that
he can gamble away tens of thousands of dollars a year, he might sign
over his social security check to charity, but not John McCain. He's
all for "socialism" for number one, himself.)


McCain is a glaring, gluttonous example of the GOP denouncing
"socialist" government programs, but benefiting from them at every
turn. There's only a couple of Communist countries left in the world,
and the Marxist ideology is basically dead and buried, but go to
CafePress.com and see how many buttons and stickers claim that
liberals (and Obama) are Communists. It's like there are a group of
right wing Republicans (that's probably a redundant phrase) whose
brains are petrified rock, solidified during the Cuban Missile Crisis.


So here's the nut of it. If you are a senior citizen in a trailer
park or even in a luxurious condo in the Sarasota/Bradenton area (just
as an example: the former congressional district briefly represented
by the infamous Katherine Harris) and you talk over your bingo games
and in your barber shops about what a "liberal socialist threat"
Barack Obama is to America, we have a suggestion for you: burn your
Medicare and Social Security Cards and send a letter to the U.S.
Government informing them that you are now going to personally pay
your own bills for healthcare and want no more Social Security checks
sent to you.

You see how easy it is to personally reject "socialism" in your life.


Oh, and when you get too feeble to live on your own, remember that you
can't sign your assets over to your children and then have Medicaid
pay for your nursing home care, because that's "socialism" too, right?
So save up, cause that nursing home care gets costly without the
government covering it.


And if the $700 billion (you know that it's going to be a trillion or
more in the end) socialism for Wall Street scheme doesn't work and
your bank collapses with your life savings down the drain, please tell
Washington that you don't want them to insure your savings because
that's "socialism." You'll just eat the loss of your retirement
savings because you're a John McCain sort of person (not that he would
turn back the FDIC insurance check from the government.)


Oh, and if you are a senior for McCain because you want to prevent
"dreaded liberal socialism" from spreading and are disabled, please
return your government disability checks to the Treasury. You can
personally strike against "big government" all by yourself. Just send
the check back.


And if you get senior discounts on public transportation, stop taking
them. Demand you pay the full amount in your crusade against
"socialism." And when you need rehabilitation homecare because you
fall and break your hip, tell the "big brother government" to take a
hike and that you'll pay for it yourself.


I can go on and on with easy, personal actions seniors who support
McCain and the GOP "war against the welfare state" can take to rid
their lives of "socialism." There are so many daily protests that you
can do to increase your personal expenditures and get government
financial assistance out of your lives.


So before you vote for John McCain and Sarah "I bilked the state
taxpayers for daily travel home and didn't even pay taxes on it"
Palin, please show your solidarity with their cause by renouncing and
rejecting all forms of "socialist" government financial assistance.

Any volunteers?

I don't see any hands. How come?

Senior Citizens Who Vote for McCain Should be Required to Have a
Complete Mental Exam

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On Oct 10, 8:28*pm, boater buddy wrote:
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Not bad, but you have to change the subject line too. Some folks
filter these by subject...

Oh yeah.. "."

wrote:
Senior Citizens Who Vote for McCain Should be Required to Renounce Any
Claim to Social Security or Medicare


Let's make it quite simple: any person over 65 who votes for John
McCain should first be required to renounce all claims to Social
Security and Medicare.

Why? It's quite simple.

McCain's largest age group of support (by percentage) is Americans
over the age of 65. Since McCain and the Republican Party have as
their main message (other than "we are the party of white people")
shrinking the size of government and letting everyone sink or swim on
their own, I do not believe that seniors who vote for McCain are
entitled to Social Security or Medicare, and that's just for starters
as far as government support of the elderly.


John "7-11 houses" McCain himself proudly collects and cashes his
social security check (and we are not making this up), as well
receiving a disability check from the government. He also has
received government medical care (which might have otherwise
bankrupted a struggling working stiff due to McCain's history of
multiple melanomas) for decades. In fact, McCain's entire adult life
-- except for a brief stint working for his wife's beer
distributorship -- has been on the public payroll. In short, we the
taxpayers, have paid for McCain's salary and benefits. (You would
think that with a fortune worth over $100 million dollars, enough that
he can gamble away tens of thousands of dollars a year, he might sign
over his social security check to charity, but not John McCain. He's
all for "socialism" for number one, himself.)


McCain is a glaring, gluttonous example of the GOP denouncing
"socialist" government programs, but benefiting from them at every
turn. There's only a couple of Communist countries left in the world,
and the Marxist ideology is basically dead and buried, but go to
CafePress.com and see how many buttons and stickers claim that
liberals (and Obama) are Communists. It's like there are a group of
right wing Republicans (that's probably a redundant phrase) whose
brains are petrified rock, solidified during the Cuban Missile Crisis.


So here's the nut of it. If you are a senior citizen in a trailer
park or even in a luxurious condo in the Sarasota/Bradenton area (just
as an example: the former congressional district briefly represented
by the infamous Katherine Harris) and you talk over your bingo games
and in your barber shops about what a "liberal socialist threat"
Barack Obama is to America, we have a suggestion for you: burn your
Medicare and Social Security Cards and send a letter to the U.S.
Government informing them that you are now going to personally pay
your own bills for healthcare and want no more Social Security checks
sent to you.

You see how easy it is to personally reject "socialism" in your life.


Oh, and when you get too feeble to live on your own, remember that you
can't sign your assets over to your children and then have Medicaid
pay for your nursing home care, because that's "socialism" too, right?
So save up, cause that nursing home care gets costly without the
government covering it.


And if the $700 billion (you know that it's going to be a trillion or
more in the end) socialism for Wall Street scheme doesn't work and
your bank collapses with your life savings down the drain, please tell
Washington that you don't want them to insure your savings because
that's "socialism." You'll just eat the loss of your retirement
savings because you're a John McCain sort of person (not that he would
turn back the FDIC insurance check from the government.)


Oh, and if you are a senior for McCain because you want to prevent
"dreaded liberal socialism" from spreading and are disabled, please
return your government disability checks to the Treasury. You can
personally strike against "big government" all by yourself. Just send
the check back.


And if you get senior discounts on public transportation, stop taking
them. Demand you pay the full amount in your crusade against
"socialism." And when you need rehabilitation homecare because you
fall and break your hip, tell the "big brother government" to take a
hike and that you'll pay for it yourself.


I can go on and on with easy, personal actions seniors who support
McCain and the GOP "war against the welfare state" can take to rid
their lives of "socialism." There are so many daily protests that you
can do to increase your personal expenditures and get government
financial assistance out of your lives.


So before you vote for John McCain and Sarah "I bilked the state
taxpayers for daily travel home and didn't even pay taxes on it"
Palin, please show your solidarity with their cause by renouncing and
rejecting all forms of "socialist" government financial assistance.

Any volunteers?

I don't see any hands. How come?

Senior Citizens Who Vote for McCain Should be Required to Have a
Complete Mental Exam

Bull****.

And people who support Obama are in the same category as chickens who
support Colonel Sanders.

Both McCain and Obama are total buffoons. This election is about who
will do less damage. That seems to be McCain.

God forbid we have to consider whether a VP may come into play.

Or if Obama is elected, that means Pelosi runs the country.

I guess that could not disagree with you more and I am a generic at 64. In
order to be a generic in the first place, you have to be lucky, many don't
make it, but one of the benefits of old age is experience and life is a
wonderful teacher. For the intelligent, it separates the bull **** from the
truth in the rhetoric. Please understand that I do not disagree with your
observations, just your conclusions. You complain about the effects, but it
is necessary to determine the true causes of the problems in order to fix
the observed wrongs. First, any pensioner that collect social security will
not collect even the bank interest of their contributions, let alone the
principle, even if the person lives to the age of 100. That's a wrong. So,
we have now determined that the social security contributions are in fact a
tax, not an investment. The underlying premise of the system is that the
working population's contributions fund the entitlements of the retired. It
is a wonderful theory, as long as the population of contributors verses the
retired remains in balance and the contributions are not used for other
purposes. Time has determined that both failure modes have occurred, this is
indisputable. The system does not work, it has failed. Our forefathers put
this system in place in good faith and at that time it was a democratic
administration, but in all fairness, the executive branch could not have put
this system in place without congress, so there is enough blame to go
around.

If my generic self has learned anything in life, it is the fact that there
is no free lunch. Here we are, many years later, in a democratic republic
where the intelligence of the population controls the decisions of the
government and I am afraid that this lesson in history is not understood by
the voting population and I for one, am afraid for our future. This dilemma
has nothing to do with John McCain's entitlement. If anyone is entitled, he
is, but we all are, because we contributed. Everyone's concern should be how
we fix it and it will be painful. The system must be replaced. Something for
nothing does not work. Please examine these government candidate's positions
again and determine who belongs to the free lunch crowd and who doesn't. I
am already passed my "use by date" and I think you had better get your ****
together, because the problem is now yours.
Steve

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Senior Citizens Who Vote for McCain Should be Required to Renounce Any
Claim to Social Security or Medicare


Let's make it quite simple: any person over 65 who votes for John
McCain should first be required to renounce all claims to Social
Security and Medicare.

Why? It's quite simple.

McCain's largest age group of support (by percentage) is Americans
over the age of 65. Since McCain and the Republican Party have as
their main message (other than "we are the party of white people")
shrinking the size of government and letting everyone sink or swim on
their own, I do not believe that seniors who vote for McCain are
entitled to Social Security or Medicare, and that's just for starters
as far as government support of the elderly.


John "7-11 houses" McCain himself proudly collects and cashes his
social security check (and we are not making this up), as well
receiving a disability check from the government. He also has
received government medical care (which might have otherwise
bankrupted a struggling working stiff due to McCain's history of
multiple melanomas) for decades. In fact, McCain's entire adult life
-- except for a brief stint working for his wife's beer
distributorship -- has been on the public payroll. In short, we the
taxpayers, have paid for McCain's salary and benefits. (You would
think that with a fortune worth over $100 million dollars, enough that
he can gamble away tens of thousands of dollars a year, he might sign
over his social security check to charity, but not John McCain. He's
all for "socialism" for number one, himself.)


McCain is a glaring, gluttonous example of the GOP denouncing
"socialist" government programs, but benefiting from them at every
turn. There's only a couple of Communist countries left in the world,
and the Marxist ideology is basically dead and buried, but go to
CafePress.com and see how many buttons and stickers claim that
liberals (and Obama) are Communists. It's like there are a group of
right wing Republicans (that's probably a redundant phrase) whose
brains are petrified rock, solidified during the Cuban Missile Crisis.


So here's the nut of it. If you are a senior citizen in a trailer
park or even in a luxurious condo in the Sarasota/Bradenton area (just
as an example: the former congressional district briefly represented
by the infamous Katherine Harris) and you talk over your bingo games
and in your barber shops about what a "liberal socialist threat"
Barack Obama is to America, we have a suggestion for you: burn your
Medicare and Social Security Cards and send a letter to the U.S.
Government informing them that you are now going to personally pay
your own bills for healthcare and want no more Social Security checks
sent to you.

You see how easy it is to personally reject "socialism" in your life.


Oh, and when you get too feeble to live on your own, remember that you
can't sign your assets over to your children and then have Medicaid
pay for your nursing home care, because that's "socialism" too, right?
So save up, cause that nursing home care gets costly without the
government covering it.


And if the $700 billion (you know that it's going to be a trillion or
more in the end) socialism for Wall Street scheme doesn't work and
your bank collapses with your life savings down the drain, please tell
Washington that you don't want them to insure your savings because
that's "socialism." You'll just eat the loss of your retirement
savings because you're a John McCain sort of person (not that he would
turn back the FDIC insurance check from the government.)


Oh, and if you are a senior for McCain because you want to prevent
"dreaded liberal socialism" from spreading and are disabled, please
return your government disability checks to the Treasury. You can
personally strike against "big government" all by yourself. Just send
the check back.


And if you get senior discounts on public transportation, stop taking
them. Demand you pay the full amount in your crusade against
"socialism." And when you need rehabilitation homecare because you
fall and break your hip, tell the "big brother government" to take a
hike and that you'll pay for it yourself.


I can go on and on with easy, personal actions seniors who support
McCain and the GOP "war against the welfare state" can take to rid
their lives of "socialism." There are so many daily protests that you
can do to increase your personal expenditures and get government
financial assistance out of your lives.


So before you vote for John McCain and Sarah "I bilked the state
taxpayers for daily travel home and didn't even pay taxes on it"
Palin, please show your solidarity with their cause by renouncing and
rejecting all forms of "socialist" government financial assistance.

Any volunteers?

I don't see any hands. How come?

Senior Citizens Who Vote for McCain Should be Required to Have a
Complete Mental Exam

..

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wrote:
Senior Citizens Who Vote for McCain Should be Required to Renounce Any
Claim to Social Security or Medicare


Let's make it quite simple: any person over 65 who votes for John
McCain should first be required to renounce all claims to Social
Security and Medicare.

Why? It's quite simple.

McCain's largest age group of support (by percentage) is Americans
over the age of 65. Since McCain and the Republican Party have as
their main message (other than "we are the party of white people")
shrinking the size of government and letting everyone sink or swim on
their own, I do not believe that seniors who vote for McCain are
entitled to Social Security or Medicare, and that's just for starters
as far as government support of the elderly.


John "7-11 houses" McCain himself proudly collects and cashes his
social security check (and we are not making this up), as well
receiving a disability check from the government. He also has
received government medical care (which might have otherwise
bankrupted a struggling working stiff due to McCain's history of
multiple melanomas) for decades. In fact, McCain's entire adult life
-- except for a brief stint working for his wife's beer
distributorship -- has been on the public payroll. In short, we the
taxpayers, have paid for McCain's salary and benefits. (You would
think that with a fortune worth over $100 million dollars, enough that
he can gamble away tens of thousands of dollars a year, he might sign
over his social security check to charity, but not John McCain. He's
all for "socialism" for number one, himself.)


McCain is a glaring, gluttonous example of the GOP denouncing
"socialist" government programs, but benefiting from them at every
turn. There's only a couple of Communist countries left in the world,
and the Marxist ideology is basically dead and buried, but go to
CafePress.com and see how many buttons and stickers claim that
liberals (and Obama) are Communists. It's like there are a group of
right wing Republicans (that's probably a redundant phrase) whose
brains are petrified rock, solidified during the Cuban Missile Crisis.


So here's the nut of it. If you are a senior citizen in a trailer
park or even in a luxurious condo in the Sarasota/Bradenton area (just
as an example: the former congressional district briefly represented
by the infamous Katherine Harris) and you talk over your bingo games
and in your barber shops about what a "liberal socialist threat"
Barack Obama is to America, we have a suggestion for you: burn your
Medicare and Social Security Cards and send a letter to the U.S.
Government informing them that you are now going to personally pay
your own bills for healthcare and want no more Social Security checks
sent to you.

You see how easy it is to personally reject "socialism" in your life.


Oh, and when you get too feeble to live on your own, remember that you
can't sign your assets over to your children and then have Medicaid
pay for your nursing home care, because that's "socialism" too, right?
So save up, cause that nursing home care gets costly without the
government covering it.


And if the $700 billion (you know that it's going to be a trillion or
more in the end) socialism for Wall Street scheme doesn't work and
your bank collapses with your life savings down the drain, please tell
Washington that you don't want them to insure your savings because
that's "socialism." You'll just eat the loss of your retirement
savings because you're a John McCain sort of person (not that he would
turn back the FDIC insurance check from the government.)


Oh, and if you are a senior for McCain because you want to prevent
"dreaded liberal socialism" from spreading and are disabled, please
return your government disability checks to the Treasury. You can
personally strike against "big government" all by yourself. Just send
the check back.


And if you get senior discounts on public transportation, stop taking
them. Demand you pay the full amount in your crusade against
"socialism." And when you need rehabilitation homecare because you
fall and break your hip, tell the "big brother government" to take a
hike and that you'll pay for it yourself.


I can go on and on with easy, personal actions seniors who support
McCain and the GOP "war against the welfare state" can take to rid
their lives of "socialism." There are so many daily protests that you
can do to increase your personal expenditures and get government
financial assistance out of your lives.


So before you vote for John McCain and Sarah "I bilked the state
taxpayers for daily travel home and didn't even pay taxes on it"
Palin, please show your solidarity with their cause by renouncing and
rejecting all forms of "socialist" government financial assistance.

Any volunteers?

I don't see any hands. How come?

Senior Citizens Who Vote for McCain Should be Required to Have a
Complete Mental Exam
I am a senior citizen and I am DEFINITELY voting for McCain. No more
redefining "IS". obama (or is it "o bomb ya") has worked with known
terrorist all his life. He help define Acorn that flagrantly disregards
the voting laws. His policies are so liberal that even the news media
admits he is the most liberal senator in congress. He wants to raise
taxes when the stock market is in distress. He lies in his infomercials
about taxing health benefits. (If you liberals forgot, only recently did
a republican congress changed the rules so that medical insurance
payments were pre tax income. previously it was taxed) This guy obama
can get in front of the American people and say many time he will speak
to any world leader UNCONDITIONALLY and the next say he says he did not
say that. He picks a vice president candidate that does not know that
per the Constitution the Vice President presides over the Senate, and he
has been in the senate for many years.

I will vote for McCain, because you know what he stands for and when he
makes a decision it is based on commons sense and his analysis of the
facts. Not as obama who says what the most recent polls say.

Keith nuttle wrote:

I am a senior citizen and I am DEFINITELY voting for McCain. No more
redefining "IS". obama (or is it "o bomb ya") has worked with known
terrorist all his life. He help define Acorn that flagrantly disregards
the voting laws. His policies are so liberal that even the news media
admits he is the most liberal senator in congress. He wants to raise
taxes when the stock market is in distress. He lies in his infomercials
about taxing health benefits. (If you liberals forgot, only recently did
a republican congress changed the rules so that medical insurance
payments were pre tax income. previously it was taxed) This guy obama
can get in front of the American people and say many time he will speak
to any world leader UNCONDITIONALLY and the next say he says he did not
say that. He picks a vice president candidate that does not know that
per the Constitution the Vice President presides over the Senate, and he
has been in the senate for many years.

I will vote for McCain, because you know what he stands for and when he
makes a decision it is based on commons sense and his analysis of the
facts. Not as obama who says what the most recent polls say.


I know what McCain stands for: race-baiting, xenophobia, bad judgment,
attacks via innuendo, irrational behavior, ignorance of economics and,
of course, the unregulated free market system.

On 2008-10-11 01:53:20 -0400, "Steve Lusardi" said:

First, any pensioner that collect social security will not collect even
the bank interest of their contributions, let alone the principle, even
if the person lives to the age of 100. That's a wrong. So, we have now
determined that the social security contributions are in fact a tax,
not an investment.

This bears repeating. If you want to feel sick, take the last, say, 10
years of your 401k contributions and add the 15% the government has
taxed you and your employer in that time.

I'll pretty much guarantee you could have retired a very long time ago
with no need for government handouts via the magic of compound interest.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
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