Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...


BTW, that donation you made to the GOP...how do you think it looks on
Sarah's back as part of $150,000 wardrobe you helped pay for...I
guess it does mean you *can* put lipstick on a pig, eh?


Right. It's just not fair. Obama has to pay for his own $1,400
suits. Helps to connect to the middle class, you know.
Of course, his income from two "memoirs" pay for them. Or do they?

BTW .... how do you write two memoirs as a young man who really hasn't
done anything of importance yet?

Eisboch



In your mind, perhaps, he's not done anything of importance. He's had a
remarkable life so far.

I don't know what Obama pays for his suits, but they're nothing special.
He might be a bit hard to fit because of his height and lack of
avoirdupois, though.

A $1000 is about average for a decent made to order man's business suit
these days, by the way. I wore one yesterday for a meeting downtown.
Boy, was I surprised...right after Labor Day, the client changed its
dress code to "business casual" except for board meetings and meetings
with "new investors." I was the only one there wearing a tie...but not
for long.


$1000 suits, $600 bicycles, $???? mystery 2 wheelers. Sheet. Hairbrain
is spending down so that Nobama can't tax it away from him. Good strategy.

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:29:20 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:38:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
m...

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:27:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


With all due respect, what you are missing is a vehicle designed to
tow
something.

You don't want to be in overdrive while towing. An automatic,
designed
for towing applications, will figure it out for you.



Anyway, the 4Runner may be fine for short distance and light load
occasional towing, but not for a travel trailer camper.
JohnH just bought a camper. Even though his camper/trailer is
light-weight, the 4Runner isn't an ideal tow vehicle for it.
The problem is the wind resistance, not the weight, and I guarantee
that
is
what he is complaining about.

The 4Runner is a very nice, very light duty vehicle. It's not
designed
to
pull high area resistance trailers down the interstate.

Tried to tell him, but he won't listen, so he has to learn for
himself.
A
manual transmission will do zip for him.

Eisboch





Oh horse puckey. The 4Runner does a great job of towing a trailer
which
is
about half its towing capacity. It wants to downshift going uphill if
I'm
in overdrive. That may be due to wind resistance.


But isn't that what you are complaining about? It should shift out of
overdrive. You shouldn't be in overdrive climbing a hill and pulling
the
trailer anyway. The overdrive gear is wimpy to begin with, plus you are
lugging the engine. That's what tow/haul is all about in a tow vehicle
automatic. Ideally, you should be able to lock overdrive out or, use
tow/haul, if equipped.

Yes! I know what I *should* do, but that isn't what I *want* to do. Like
I
say, if I leave it in 4th, not overdrive, it does fine. That's what the
book says to do.

If it makes you feel better, my F-250 Superduty, rated to tow twice or
more
the weight of your 4runner automatically shifts out of overdrive and
sometimes unlocks the converter pulling an empty, 3000 lb GVW Haulmark
trailer that probably weighs less than 1000 lbs empty. It's the
frontal
area wind resistance that causes the downshifts. Tow/Haul mode prevents
the
transmission from "hunting".

4th gear and staying out of cruise control does that for me. I should
have
held out for your van. No, no, I'm happy with what I've got.

We're taking our friends from Holland over to West Virginia for some
camping next week. We'll be staying at the north end of the Monongahela
National Forest. Absolutely beautiful country.

Eisboch


Need someone to show you how to drive that 4Runner?
Even my little Ranger 4x2 had a tow mode button in the auto transmission
lever.
I used it all the way on my 5000 kilometer round trip towing a 2330 lb
load
last year.


No, Donnie. If I need help, I've got Harry very close by. He is an expert,
in case you didn't realize it.
--


That's who I was going to suggest...you couldn't afford my rates...military
officers pension or not. ;-)

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:55:25 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:29:20 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
news On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:38:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
om...

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:27:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


With all due respect, what you are missing is a vehicle designed to
tow
something.

You don't want to be in overdrive while towing. An automatic,
designed
for towing applications, will figure it out for you.



Anyway, the 4Runner may be fine for short distance and light load
occasional towing, but not for a travel trailer camper.
JohnH just bought a camper. Even though his camper/trailer is
light-weight, the 4Runner isn't an ideal tow vehicle for it.
The problem is the wind resistance, not the weight, and I guarantee
that
is
what he is complaining about.

The 4Runner is a very nice, very light duty vehicle. It's not
designed
to
pull high area resistance trailers down the interstate.

Tried to tell him, but he won't listen, so he has to learn for
himself.
A
manual transmission will do zip for him.

Eisboch





Oh horse puckey. The 4Runner does a great job of towing a trailer
which
is
about half its towing capacity. It wants to downshift going uphill if
I'm
in overdrive. That may be due to wind resistance.


But isn't that what you are complaining about? It should shift out of
overdrive. You shouldn't be in overdrive climbing a hill and pulling
the
trailer anyway. The overdrive gear is wimpy to begin with, plus you are
lugging the engine. That's what tow/haul is all about in a tow vehicle
automatic. Ideally, you should be able to lock overdrive out or, use
tow/haul, if equipped.

Yes! I know what I *should* do, but that isn't what I *want* to do. Like
I
say, if I leave it in 4th, not overdrive, it does fine. That's what the
book says to do.

If it makes you feel better, my F-250 Superduty, rated to tow twice or
more
the weight of your 4runner automatically shifts out of overdrive and
sometimes unlocks the converter pulling an empty, 3000 lb GVW Haulmark
trailer that probably weighs less than 1000 lbs empty. It's the
frontal
area wind resistance that causes the downshifts. Tow/Haul mode prevents
the
transmission from "hunting".

4th gear and staying out of cruise control does that for me. I should
have
held out for your van. No, no, I'm happy with what I've got.

We're taking our friends from Holland over to West Virginia for some
camping next week. We'll be staying at the north end of the Monongahela
National Forest. Absolutely beautiful country.

Eisboch


Need someone to show you how to drive that 4Runner?
Even my little Ranger 4x2 had a tow mode button in the auto transmission
lever.
I used it all the way on my 5000 kilometer round trip towing a 2330 lb
load
last year.


No, Donnie. If I need help, I've got Harry very close by. He is an expert,
in case you didn't realize it.
--


That's who I was going to suggest...you couldn't afford my rates...military
officers pension or not. ;-)


Too funny. Just another thread showing that JohnH does not have a
clue.

wrote:
On Oct 22, 8:34 am, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
BTW, that donation you made to the GOP...how do you think it looks on
Sarah's back as part of $150,000 wardrobe you helped pay for...I guess it
does mean you *can* put lipstick on a pig, eh?
Right. It's just not fair. Obama has to pay for his own $1,400 suits.
Helps to connect to the middle class, you know.
Of course, his income from two "memoirs" pay for them. Or do they?
BTW .... how do you write two memoirs as a young man who really hasn't done
anything of importance yet?
Eisboch
In your mind, perhaps, he's not done anything of importance. He's had a
remarkable life so far.

I don't know what Obama pays for his suits, but they're nothing special.
He might be a bit hard to fit because of his height and lack of
avoirdupois, though.

A $1000 is about average for a decent made to order man's business suit
these days, by the way. I wore one yesterday for a meeting downtown.
Boy, was I surprised...right after Labor Day, the client changed its
dress code to "business casual" except for board meetings and meetings
with "new investors." I was the only one there wearing a tie...but not
for long.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, sure, we believe you.

It might be true. He's 6'3" with a 30" inseam. That would require a
custom suit. As for the meeting - pure bull****. WAFA.

Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
Ask Don how he stops the little Ranger 4x2 and the 2300 lb load. I would
bet that the little itty bitty transmission in that little Ranger 4x2 is
about at it's end of life.


I apply the brakes as needed.
After the big trip I noticed a burnt smell in the transmission fluid so I
took it directly to the dealer to have the transmission drained & flushed.
New fluid was added and all is right. It had less than 10K miles at that
time.
I blame the overloading on the trailer suspension collapsing, causing the
tires to wear right through the heavy steel fenders.



Your rubber tires wore through your "heavy steel fenders"? Sure, moron.

WAFM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:40:04 -0400, DK
wrote:



It might be true. He's 6'3" with a 30" inseam. That would require a
custom suit. As for the meeting - pure bull****. WAFA.

Went to a job interview once and rushing to make the train, put my
overcoat on over my shirt, forgetting my suit coat.
Didn't realize it until I was on the train.
This was when some "consultants" were expected to wear 3-pieces.
Got the job anyway.
I told one jomoca account manager who suggested I get a 3-piece,
"Sure, if I can expense it."
Never had one.
My wife got all my suits from rummage stores for 5 bucks.
One new Brooks Brothers she paid $20 for.
Of course that's me. I can understand others not wanting to possibly
wear the clothing of the deceased. I just figured the prev owners
gained weight and the suits wouldn't fit any more.
Doesn't matter. I did the suits proud. And I gots money for a boat.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...



Went to a job interview once and rushing to make the train, put my
overcoat on over my shirt, forgetting my suit coat.
Didn't realize it until I was on the train.
This was when some "consultants" were expected to wear 3-pieces.
Got the job anyway.
I told one jomoca account manager who suggested I get a 3-piece,
"Sure, if I can expense it."
Never had one.
My wife got all my suits from rummage stores for 5 bucks.
One new Brooks Brothers she paid $20 for.
Of course that's me. I can understand others not wanting to possibly
wear the clothing of the deceased. I just figured the prev owners
gained weight and the suits wouldn't fit any more.
Doesn't matter. I did the suits proud. And I gots money for a boat.

--Vic


When I stopped working I either gave or threw every business suit and tie I
had away.

I told everyone in my family, young and old, that if anyone of them planned
on getting married or dying, don't bother inviting me to the ceremonies,
because I won't wear a suit.

Did go to a wedding though .... decent pants, shoes and a shirt. No suit.
No tie.

Eisboch

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:36:30 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Good story, too. You've made me rethink the manual transmission idea. No
wonder the Army went to automatic transmissions years ago.

Almost all tractor manufacturers now have shiftless hydrostatic torque
drive or automatic transmissions - manuals with clutches are few and
far between.

I saw a new John Deere 9630T a few weeks back - 525 hp monster that
Chapman Farms bought for their cropping operation in New Jersey and
Pennsylvania - automatic.

http://www.deere.com/servlet/ProdCat...R&pNbr=9630TRW

Amazing.

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:00:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



When I stopped working I either gave or threw every business suit and tie I
had away.

I told everyone in my family, young and old, that if anyone of them planned
on getting married or dying, don't bother inviting me to the ceremonies,
because I won't wear a suit.

Did go to a wedding though .... decent pants, shoes and a shirt. No suit.
No tie.

Most of mine disappeared when work went to casual dress.
Still have a couple, and wore one to a funereal last year.
BTW, I worked with a black guy who didn't really care for our company
going casual. Cultural thing about status.
Personally, I always saw suits as a hassle.
I sometimes wonder how badly the suit business got hit by most
businesses going casual.
There's a "Suit Factory" here that still advertises on TV, and when I
see an ad it reminds of SNL skit about a store in a mall called
"Scotch Boutique" which specialized in selling every damn variety
of Scotch tape. Bill Murray was the stock boy.
Funny as hell.
There's a running joke with my wife when we see a new store open in
the mall with a name like "Potato Skin Emporium."
Well, not really a joke, more of a laugh as we estimate how long it
will last.

--Vic

Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...



Went to a job interview once and rushing to make the train, put my
overcoat on over my shirt, forgetting my suit coat.
Didn't realize it until I was on the train.
This was when some "consultants" were expected to wear 3-pieces.
Got the job anyway.
I told one jomoca account manager who suggested I get a 3-piece,
"Sure, if I can expense it."
Never had one.
My wife got all my suits from rummage stores for 5 bucks.
One new Brooks Brothers she paid $20 for.
Of course that's me. I can understand others not wanting to possibly
wear the clothing of the deceased. I just figured the prev owners
gained weight and the suits wouldn't fit any more.
Doesn't matter. I did the suits proud. And I gots money for a boat.

--Vic


When I stopped working I either gave or threw every business suit and tie I
had away.

I told everyone in my family, young and old, that if anyone of them planned
on getting married or dying, don't bother inviting me to the ceremonies,
because I won't wear a suit.

Did go to a wedding though .... decent pants, shoes and a shirt. No suit.
No tie.

Eisboch




Well, I had two for-profit clients who were "formal dress." I learned
this week that one of them is now "business casual" dress. The other
remains business formal. I usually wear a suit when I visit my union
clients at their offices because the guys I go to see are wearing suits.
When I visit a jobsite, I dress like their business agent...workpants,
workshirt, steel-toed shoes and a hardhat.

I'm heading up to Boston right after the elections to meet with some
business agents. Gosh...I hope I don't need to retain a wardrobe
consultant! :)


"Dress like the client..."