On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:03:01 -0700 (PDT),
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In reality, I
cannot justify my company having a truck although I could make a good
case to the IRS for it.

Almost any business can use a truck for something.

On Oct 20, 4:10*pm, wrote:
On Oct 20, 4:45 pm, JimH wrote:



On Oct 20, 4:43 pm, wrote:

On Oct 20, 4:34 pm, JimH wrote:

On Oct 20, 4:25 pm, "Don White" wrote:

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On Oct 20, 3:45 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT),
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Y'all with larger trucks, how did you justify it?

Easy, that's what I wanted. * :-)

You can't go wrong with a Tundra, forget the Titan.

Yeah, I think my old Nissan bought for $11,000 in 1985 has done good,
time to go to the 4wd road in the sky.
I have read that the Tundra is better but have decided I cannot
justify a bigger truck even if it will haul the sailboat.

There may be a couple of posters willing to unload a nice Ford Ranger in the
near future.
I know of one 2006 2 x 4 that has just over 26000 kilometers on the
odometer...what's that.....around 16000 miles?

ROTF!

I told my kids that when the Nissan got 333,333 on the odometer I'd
put her on the ww2 landing craft and take her to Dog Island where she
could RIP with all the other old trucks there. *I'd rig a chip to
randomely play Neil Young's "Long may You Run" while the vines and
dunes slowly drifted over her. *Maybe Nissan could make it a
commercial.

Sell it for scrap.............you may get some $750~$650 for it.

I figured we could put black bunting on the rusted old landing craft
and have a bagpipe playing a dirge as the old Nissan is pushed aboard
with an honor guard of modern 4X4s, It'd be a real hoot for
Carabelle. *Not gonna happen, would cost too much. *However oughta be
something I could do with such a faithful old truck.

Fix up a large blade made of I beam to a tree and ram it into the
radiator.

Nissan= Japanese= Die with Honor= Sepuku (Hari Kari)

On Oct 20, 6:26*pm, JimH wrote:
On Oct 20, 6:56*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message

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$1000 would keep my outboard boat in gas for the season, and buy some
bait, too!

So, that's how Obama is going to save America?

Please.

Eisboch

Provide free health insurance for all.

Bigger govt.

Lower taxes for 95% of Americans.

Provide more govt. entitlement programs.

Let the terrorists know exactly when we will exit from the middle
east.

Bigger govt.

Raise taxes on those hard working *******s earning more than $250k and
give it to those not paying any taxes......spread the wealth

Does anyone remember the Jimmy Carter years.......inflation, mortgage
rates, gas lines?

'nuff said. *;-)

Yep! Not to mention "Bigger Government"

?;^ Q

On Oct 20, 8:42*pm, wrote:
On Oct 20, 9:38 pm, Boater wrote:



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On Oct 20, 8:19 pm, Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:35:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Use the huge tax refund you'll be getting from McPalin.
Or the $1000 dollar tax decrease from Obama. * Whoopie.
EIsboch
Easy for you to say. We didn't get a dime in last year's stimulus and I
suspect we'll be paying more no matter who gets into office. Someone has
to pay for Bush's insane war.
It has nothing to do with me. * *Seriously ... think about it. *How is an
average of an extra $1K *per year going to help "95%" of the public?
Certainly doesn't matter where it counts. * *Give me a break!
Eisboch
Most of the Obama voters have no realization of how little $1000 will
affect their lifestyle. But, if it'll put a new TV on the floor, it's well
worth a vote!
There he goes again, John Herring, rec.boat's own hater of blacks and
Latinos.

Signal to noise ratio in the thread is getting really poor with crap
from Harry who seems unqualified to have opinions on any topic.
Really now, if you cannot discern the diff tween boats and politics,
how can anyone take him seriously about either?

Au contraire. I am qualified to offer up opinions on many subjects
related to boating, but I see little reason to post them here often.

I notice you didn't aim one of your cheap shots at Herring, eh?

Whoa, I see from NADA that my vehicles are "Classics". *I'll try that
one on my wife "Hey, wanna ride in my Classic truck". *Her: *"Classic,
what are you talking about". *Me: *"My Nissan". *Her: *"THAT BEATER,
you must be kidding"

Headless and armless statues all over Italy, Greece, and Egypt are
classic too.

Buy another Bone-mobile and you're wife might start mixing up the
plaster for you too!

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On Oct 20, 1:16 pm, jim wrote:
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On Oct 20, 12:46 pm, wrote:
I have kept my two old trucks running far beyond reason with my old
1985 Nissan having 313,000 and the 1988 Dodge having somewhere between
180,000 and 200,000. This weekend, coming back from working on my
sailboat, I was seriously worried the Nissan would not get me home.
Not only is the transmission going bad, the center support bearing is
gone from the driveshaft, I cannot get her to go into reverse without
effort, now I seem to have a timing issue making her miss a lot and
lose power (maybe timing chain has slipped). No gages except the tach
and odometer work. One of the front drive axles has a torn boot (I
never use the 4wd so it does not matter). She would not pass
inspection anywhere else cuz the pollution control stuff long ago
rusted away.
Now the Dodge (the only vehicle I allow my 18 yr old son to drive) has
developed transmission probs. I simply cannot continue to repair so
many things because it takes all my time.
I loathe the idea of truck payments and comprehensive insurance but it
looks as if I'll have to just do it if I want to keep towing my boat.

Maybe I am too obsessive about having little debt but I always thought
of it as a freedom issue. With little debt I could do as I pleased.
Of course, having kids changed that some but still I have waaaaaay
less debt than most. It just seems WRONG to take on debt that ties me
down. My wife says "Dont worry about it, you'll keep this truck for
20 years too" but it is the near term debt idea that slays me. Saving
up to pay almost all cash would be difficult with so many kid expenses
and my wifes mouth surgery and so on and on, even the down payment is
tough when we want to keep a reasonable cash reserve just in case.
How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?

I imagine it involves a lot of lying to ones self

Quite frankly, I am finding that I have little time to do any repairs
the past few years. Fortunately, my trucks are so old that I dont
have to do that much cuz all the stupid stuff like pollution canisters
long ago fell off. It is possible that I am old enough that I can
justify not lyin under a truck in the heat to replace a clutch. I
lalso know that I have waaaaay too many projects to spend much time on
repairs. Maybe I am just tired of doing it.
Here is a possible scheme: Buy a Titan or Tundra and then build a
trailer to allow me to occasionally haul the 7700 lb sailboat places.
Could I justify this with the Titan or Tundra costing about 1.4X the
gas all the time? The smaller Tacoma or Frontier would easily haul
the Tolman Skiff.
Y'all with larger trucks, how did you justify it?

I am having no problems with my F150. Other than I bought a year or two
early. If I had waited, could have gotten a good used one for a fraction of
the cost. But love how it drives. Would do a F250 or F350 if the boat is
really big. Even use the 4x4 in the winter.

Had a Nissan, sold it at 250,000 as rust. Had some problems with it when
new but was fixed by the dealer. Most Dodge owners seem to get a trany fix,
or in at least 3 of 4 I know that have RAMs have.

Not a big fan of GM since the car we had crapped it's transmission at 16,200
and had to argue with them for a proper fix and not a band-aid fix.

Justify it? Easy, I don't want more than one vehicle, but it must be a good
one. Most people overlook a vehicle depreciates+maintenance faster than the
fuel you feed it. So fuel mileage inside of reason isn't an issue.
Reliability and longevity is.

It must pull a 2500 to 3500 lb boat safely. And I don't want under powered
and under provisioned wandering all over the road going 30 mph up hill.
Safety is a must. F150 Lariat hauls it easy and safely.

Must be 4x4. I need to get to work even if their is 4-7" of white stuff.

V8, I like heat at -20F. And they run better too at low temperatures.

I justify it because it fits my needs, one vehicle does all and I like
driving it. Plan on keeping it a long time.

"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Use the huge tax refund you'll be getting from McPalin.

Or the $1000 dollar tax decrease from Obama. Whoopie.

EIsboch


Easy for you to say. We didn't get a dime in last year's stimulus and I
suspect we'll be paying more no matter who gets into office. Someone has
to pay for Bush's insane war.

Should of filed an income tax return.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:27:44 -0700 (PDT),
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Now, I am trying to find one with a crew cab AND long bed,
not sure they exist.

There are some around. Huge.


Hard to find a parking place. Look on Craigslist for a salvage title and
there are some really great deals.

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So, for towing the Tolman, it is looking like a Nissan Frontier. The
Tacoma is a little more expensive and I have had good luck with
Nissan. Now, I am trying to find one with a crew cab AND long bed,
not sure they exist.

I like manual shift but is there any reason for them anymore? In the
very long run, I still think a manual shift will outlast an automatic
and I can replace a clutch.

Overall, an automatic with a torque converter is much better for towing than
a manual with a clutch and is actually recommended for towing by most truck
manufacturers. This assumes you have a big enough truck for the job.

Eisboch

"Boater" wrote in message
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Whoa, I see from NADA that my vehicles are "Classics". I'll try that
one on my wife "Hey, wanna ride in my Classic truck". Her: "Classic,
what are you talking about". Me: "My Nissan". Her: "THAT BEATER,
you must be kidding"


I wouldn't buy one, but I've seen a lot of seemingly really good deals on
new v8 trucks from Chevy, Ford, and Chrysler.



If anyone needs a larger truck, now is the time to buy one. I recently
traded in the little Ranger on a F-250 Superduty and got one heck of a deal
without even trying hard to negotiate.

I needed a heavier duty truck for my new, potential enterprise. Gonna start
renting out musical equipment for touring bands, weddings receptions, and
other private parties. I have acquired three vintage Hammonds .... an
original B3, a C3 (which is a B3 in a different cabinet) and a "Porta-B".
Also now have a collection of Leslie speakers .... two PR22 stationary
cabinets, a 122 rotary, a 760 rotary and a 825 rotary lower unit and 2101
upper rotary horn.

It is said that you should do what you enjoy in terms of a business. Now
that I have the time, I am going to try this. Music and the audio gear to
reproduce it has always been a hobby of sorts and I enjoy it.

Anyway, I needed a heavier duty truck to haul this stuff around in an
enclosed trailer. The Ranger was too small.

Eisboch

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Use the huge tax refund you'll be getting from McPalin.

Or the $1000 dollar tax decrease from Obama. Whoopie.

EIsboch


Easy for you to say. We didn't get a dime in last year's stimulus and I
suspect we'll be paying more no matter who gets into office. Someone has
to pay for Bush's insane war.

Should of filed an income tax return.


Our accountant finished up our return for '07 on October 14th .... a day
before the extensions run out. He does this every year for some reason,
even though our financial life has become much more simple since I stopped
working.

But, I was surprised that he said we will be getting a stimulus check. I
have no idea how much.

Eisboch