On Oct 23, 8:06*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive
line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is
negligible.

I just noticed something on my new truck. * It has real, old fashioned
locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn.

I never noticed them before. *I have to read the owner's manual one of these
days, because I have the
electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low.

I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about.

Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers?

I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year.- Hide quoted text -

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Pffftttt.. remind me never too....

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On Oct 23, 8:06 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive
line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is
negligible.
I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned
locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn.
I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of these
days, because I have the
electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low.
I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about.
Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers?

I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pffftttt.. remind me never too....


Remind me never too?

Is that English somewhere?

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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive
line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is
negligible.


I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned
locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn.

I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of
these
days, because I have the
electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low.

I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about.

Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers?

I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year.



You know what? I have no idea. I just happened to glance down and looked
at them as I walked by the truck.
They have a bar that appears to be able to be turned to one of two
positions, "Locked" and "Auto".
I was thinking about something else at the moment, so nothing went off in my
head until later, sitting here at the desk.

Weird.

It's too cold and dark to investigate now. I'll check it out tomorrow if I
remember ..... ah, hell, this is going to bug me.
Be right back.

Back. Yup, they are locking hubs. The truck has the Electronic Shift On
the Fly (ESOF) option, but the hubs can also be manually locked to override
the automatic control. Why, I haven't a clue.

Eisboch

On Oct 23, 9:18 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive
line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is
negligible.

I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned
locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn.

I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of
these
days, because I have the
electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low.

I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about.

Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers?

I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year.

You know what? I have no idea. I just happened to glance down and looked
at them as I walked by the truck.
They have a bar that appears to be able to be turned to one of two
positions, "Locked" and "Auto".
I was thinking about something else at the moment, so nothing went off in my
head until later, sitting here at the desk.

Weird.

It's too cold and dark to investigate now. I'll check it out tomorrow if I
remember ..... ah, hell, this is going to bug me.
Be right back.

Back. Yup, they are locking hubs. The truck has the Electronic Shift On
the Fly (ESOF) option, but the hubs can also be manually locked to override
the automatic control. Why, I haven't a clue.

Eisboch

I was out driving in the woods with a friend of mine in his 4WD truck
with his wife along too looking for caves. We came to a very wide and
long area of mud and h turns to his wife "Marianne, will you get out
and lock in the hubs before we go through that". She gets out and
starts locking them and he says o me in a loud voice "You didnt know
i had automatic hubs did you". They didnt stay married long.

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:18:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive
line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is
negligible.


I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned
locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn.

I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of
these
days, because I have the
electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low.

I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about.

Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers?

I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year.

You know what? I have no idea. I just happened to glance down and looked
at them as I walked by the truck.
They have a bar that appears to be able to be turned to one of two
positions, "Locked" and "Auto".
I was thinking about something else at the moment, so nothing went off in my
head until later, sitting here at the desk.

Weird.

It's too cold and dark to investigate now. I'll check it out tomorrow if I
remember ..... ah, hell, this is going to bug me.
Be right back.

Back. Yup, they are locking hubs. The truck has the Electronic Shift On
the Fly (ESOF) option, but the hubs can also be manually locked to override
the automatic control. Why, I haven't a clue.

The only thing I can think of it that it will prevent the electronic
shift from disengaging. I have had that problem on my F-150 when some
weirdo switch sensor or something went screwy when I put it into four
wheel low.

I had to back up about a mile to get the hubs and converter to unlock.

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:18:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive
line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is
negligible.


I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned
locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn.

I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of
these
days, because I have the
electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low.

I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about.

Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers?

I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year.

You know what? I have no idea. I just happened to glance down and
looked
at them as I walked by the truck.
They have a bar that appears to be able to be turned to one of two
positions, "Locked" and "Auto".
I was thinking about something else at the moment, so nothing went off in
my
head until later, sitting here at the desk.

Weird.

It's too cold and dark to investigate now. I'll check it out tomorrow if
I
remember ..... ah, hell, this is going to bug me.
Be right back.

Back. Yup, they are locking hubs. The truck has the Electronic Shift On
the Fly (ESOF) option, but the hubs can also be manually locked to
override
the automatic control. Why, I haven't a clue.

The only thing I can think of it that it will prevent the electronic
shift from disengaging. I have had that problem on my F-150 when some
weirdo switch sensor or something went screwy when I put it into four
wheel low.

I had to back up about a mile to get the hubs and converter to unlock.

I rented a Olds Bravado one time in Rochester, MN during the winter. Coming
back from dinner outside town the rain froze to a nice icy surface. You
could not lock the car into 4x4, was all automatic unlike my S10 Blazer.
Was scary as the car kept jumping to the side when a wheel would start to
slip and then lock in to 4x4. Being able to lock the hubs may prevent that.
My Chevy truck only is automatic on the locking of the hubs, but they lock
when in 4x4 so know no other reason for manual locks. But after having to
manually lock my old jeep or my dad's 1959 Ford truck I love auto locking.
A lot cleaner and dryer.

No dots.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
om...



With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive
line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is
negligible.


I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned
locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn.

I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of these
days, because I have the
electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low.

I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about.

When in 2wd, the front hubs freewheel, and the front axles and the
rest of it don't turn, eliminating the drag thereof.

Casady