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Boating and caving do go together
Check this out, kaying inside a huge cave.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ml/photo2.html Reminds me of the enormous room in Borneo that is so large a small airplane flew into it. Here in the USA, the largest room is in Tenn. called Camps Gulf. |
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Boating and caving do go together
On Oct 23, 12:01*pm, wrote:
Check this out, kaying inside a huge cave.http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...lleries/river-... Reminds me of the enormous room in Borneo that is so large a small airplane flew into it. Here in the USA, the largest room is in Tenn. called Camps Gulf. Interesting, I didn't know that! You probably have a working knowledge of those guys that started in a small cave somewhere around Cave City, KY and ended up in the what was then the dining room in Mamouth Cave. Really interesting (to me) story. |
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Boating and caving do go together
On Oct 23, 12:49 pm, wrote:
On Oct 23, 12:01 pm, wrote: Check this out, kaying inside a huge cave.http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...lleries/river-... Reminds me of the enormous room in Borneo that is so large a small airplane flew into it. Here in the USA, the largest room is in Tenn. called Camps Gulf. Interesting, I didn't know that! You probably have a working knowledge of those guys that started in a small cave somewhere around Cave City, KY and ended up in the what was then the dining room in Mamouth Cave. Really interesting (to me) story. Friend of mine was an avid kayaker but was unfamiliar with N. FL rivers. He took his kayak down the Aucilla River from US27 planning to go all the way to the Gulf of Mexico. Everythin went fine until the end of the second day when the river came to a stop. It just ended. Well, he had heard of rivers in these parts going underground for a short ways and then coming back up so they got out and carried their boats a short distance to where it came back up. Then it did it again, then again and he gave up. This river goes underground 23 times. |
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Boating and caving do go together
On Oct 23, 9:47*pm, wrote:
On Oct 23, 12:49 pm, wrote: On Oct 23, 12:01 pm, wrote: Check this out, kaying inside a huge cave.http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...lleries/river-... Reminds me of the enormous room in Borneo that is so large a small airplane flew into it. Here in the USA, the largest room is in Tenn. called Camps Gulf. Interesting, I didn't know that! You probably have a working knowledge of those guys that started in a small cave somewhere around Cave City, KY and ended up in the what was then the dining room in Mamouth Cave. Really interesting (to me) story. Friend of mine was an avid kayaker but was unfamiliar with N. FL rivers. *He took his kayak down the Aucilla River *from US27 planning to go all the way to the Gulf of Mexico. *Everythin went fine until the end of the second day when the river came to a stop. *It just ended. *Well, he had heard of rivers in these parts going underground for a short ways and then coming back up so they got out and carried their boats a short distance to where it came back up. *Then it did it again, then again and he gave up. *This river goes underground 23 times. Yeah it's pretty cool. One time a few years back, a team actually mapped paths for several underground rivers in Florida using sonar (I think). The areas that were short enough runs teams of divers with cameras went in. I'm going to look for that, I'm not sure now if it was National Geo. or who. |
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Boating and caving do go together
On Oct 24, 9:17 am, wrote:
On Oct 23, 9:47 pm, wrote: On Oct 23, 12:49 pm, wrote: On Oct 23, 12:01 pm, wrote: Check this out, kaying inside a huge cave.http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...lleries/river-... Reminds me of the enormous room in Borneo that is so large a small airplane flew into it. Here in the USA, the largest room is in Tenn. called Camps Gulf. Interesting, I didn't know that! You probably have a working knowledge of those guys that started in a small cave somewhere around Cave City, KY and ended up in the what was then the dining room in Mamouth Cave. Really interesting (to me) story. Friend of mine was an avid kayaker but was unfamiliar with N. FL rivers. He took his kayak down the Aucilla River from US27 planning to go all the way to the Gulf of Mexico. Everythin went fine until the end of the second day when the river came to a stop. It just ended. Well, he had heard of rivers in these parts going underground for a short ways and then coming back up so they got out and carried their boats a short distance to where it came back up. Then it did it again, then again and he gave up. This river goes underground 23 times. Yeah it's pretty cool. One time a few years back, a team actually mapped paths for several underground rivers in Florida using sonar (I think). The areas that were short enough runs teams of divers with cameras went in. I'm going to look for that, I'm not sure now if it was National Geo. or who. Nowadays, the Wakulla Springs/Emerald sink/little dismal sink system of underground rivers is the longest mapped underwater cave and it is about 16 miles south of where I live. Divers last year did the first "thru" trip going from one end to the other a distance of over 15 miles using scooters, rebreathers, staged tanks, an underwater/ underground habitat. It required several trips in from opposite ends to place all this stuff for them to make this possible. Dye tracing has connected this system to another series of springs on the coast another 15 miles away at Spring Creek. In 1986, a good friend of mine Bill McFadden who I did a lot of dry caving with died during the first ultra-deep dives in Little Dismal when the exploration really got started. His BC inflated suddenly in a dome carrying him up over 120' very fast. When the other divers got him down, he was alive but not responsive to anything and they could nto get him thru a constriction where it is necessary to take off tanks and he died. An Autopsy showed he got a brain embolism in the rapid ascent. I can understand the desire to explore underwater caves but I still think cave diving is simply an elaborate form of delayed suicide, you make any mistake, you die. However, another caving frontier is lunar lava tubes. On the moon, these caves would be much larger than on earth and would be ideal for lunar habitats. They could also be traps for volatile materials like ice from comets. I consider this to be so exciting that I would volunteer for a one-way trip to explore them. |
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On Oct 24, 10:38*am, wrote:
On Oct 24, 9:17 am, wrote: On Oct 23, 9:47 pm, wrote: On Oct 23, 12:49 pm, wrote: On Oct 23, 12:01 pm, wrote: Check this out, kaying inside a huge cave.http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...lleries/river-... Reminds me of the enormous room in Borneo that is so large a small airplane flew into it. Here in the USA, the largest room is in Tenn. called Camps Gulf. Interesting, I didn't know that! You probably have a working knowledge of those guys that started in a small cave somewhere around Cave City, KY and ended up in the what was then the dining room in Mamouth Cave. Really interesting (to me) story. Friend of mine was an avid kayaker but was unfamiliar with N. FL rivers. *He took his kayak down the Aucilla River *from US27 planning to go all the way to the Gulf of Mexico. *Everythin went fine until the end of the second day when the river came to a stop. *It just ended. *Well, he had heard of rivers in these parts going underground for a short ways and then coming back up so they got out and carried their boats a short distance to where it came back up. *Then it did it again, then again and he gave up. *This river goes underground 23 times. Yeah it's pretty cool. One time a few years back, a team actually mapped paths for several underground rivers in Florida using sonar (I think). The areas that were short enough runs teams of divers with cameras went in. I'm going to look for that, I'm not sure now if it was National Geo. or who. Nowadays, the Wakulla Springs/Emerald sink/little dismal sink system of underground rivers is the longest mapped underwater cave and it is about 16 miles south of where I live. *Divers last year did the first "thru" trip going from one end to the other a distance of over 15 miles using scooters, rebreathers, staged tanks, an underwater/ underground habitat. *It required several trips in from opposite ends to place all this stuff for them to make this possible. Dye tracing has connected this system to another series of springs on the coast another 15 miles away at Spring Creek. In 1986, a good friend of mine Bill McFadden who I did a lot of dry caving with died during the first ultra-deep dives in Little Dismal when the exploration really got started. *His BC inflated suddenly in a dome carrying him up over 120' very fast. *When the other divers got him down, he was alive but not responsive to anything and they could nto get him thru a constriction where it is necessary to take off tanks and he died. *An Autopsy showed he got a brain embolism in the rapid ascent. *I can understand the desire to explore underwater caves but I still think cave diving is simply an elaborate form of delayed suicide, you make any mistake, you die. However, another caving frontier is lunar lava tubes. *On the moon, these caves would be much larger than on earth and would be ideal for lunar habitats. *They could also be traps for volatile materials like ice from comets. *I consider this to be so exciting that I would volunteer for a one-way trip to explore them.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Here's some good stuff: http://www.floridasprings.org/expedi...atch3/page.php |
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