On Nov 6, 6:02*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:34:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

So, my retirement fund loses $80,000 due to Dem Chris Dodd of the
banking comitttee and Barney Frank and the other dems who refused to
take action in 2005 when they were warned their actions were
endangering the economy

No - you lost $85,000 because you were stupid enough to keep your
funds in whatever type of account you had it in.

Cash dude - been saying that for years - in fact, since 2004.

Haven't lost a thing because I recognized the bubble and kept my
powder dry.

Another couple of months, I'm ready to get back in.

Amen, brother!

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:58:20 -0500, Jim wrote:

wrote:
Got my financial reports on my investments today, lost nearly $85,000.
I have always been fiscally responsible, never carry any cc balance,
live within my means, save for retirement, dont own an expensive
house, etc.
So, my retirement fund loses $80,000 due to Dem Chris Dodd of the
banking comitttee and Barney Frank and the other dems who refused to
take action in 2005 when they were warned their actions were
endangering the economy. DEMS OWE ME BIG MONEY. I figure I have paid
my share of the national debt, Dems can all pay the rest. If you
voted Dem, you pay. The market isnt coming back any time soon because
nobody in their right mind would invest knowing the crooks now control
the economy. I dun paid my part of the debt, so if you voted Dem, pay
up cuz YOU caused the problem.
I feel your pain.

No pain, no gain. :)
Not worried about gain just yet. Recovered over 20k the past 7 days.
That's a start.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Got my financial reports on my investments today, lost nearly $85,000.
I have always been fiscally responsible, never carry any cc balance,
live within my means, save for retirement, dont own an expensive
house, etc.
So, my retirement fund loses $80,000 due to Dem Chris Dodd of the
banking comitttee and Barney Frank and the other dems who refused to
take action in 2005 when they were warned their actions were
endangering the economy. DEMS OWE ME BIG MONEY. I figure I have paid
my share of the national debt, Dems can all pay the rest. If you
voted Dem, you pay. The market isnt coming back any time soon because
nobody in their right mind would invest knowing the crooks now control
the economy. I dun paid my part of the debt, so if you voted Dem, pay
up cuz YOU caused the problem.

I wish it was only 85K.

Ditto. This sucks.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message news
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:34:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

So, my retirement fund loses $80,000 due to Dem Chris Dodd of the
banking comitttee and Barney Frank and the other dems who refused to
take action in 2005 when they were warned their actions were
endangering the economy

No - you lost $85,000 because you were stupid enough to keep your
funds in whatever type of account you had it in.


He hasn't "lost" anything unless he bailed.
Better to sit it out.

Eisboch

Only to a point. Last April I bailed off the US markets but keep to much in
the foreign markets. I had the right idea, but underestimated the depth of
this one. Still, not hurting as bad as many.

I don't see a domestic buying opportunity, I suspect this depression of
stocks is going to be with us for some time to come.

"Keith nuttle" wrote in message
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:34:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

So, my retirement fund loses $80,000 due to Dem Chris Dodd of the
banking comitttee and Barney Frank and the other dems who refused to
take action in 2005 when they were warned their actions were
endangering the economy

No - you lost $85,000 because you were stupid enough to keep your
funds in whatever type of account you had it in.

Cash dude - been saying that for years - in fact, since 2004.

Haven't lost a thing because I recognized the bubble and kept my
powder dry.

Another couple of months, I'm ready to get back in.
Except the 2% LOST to inflation every year. or about 100/1000 over the
four years. With the twit going to be in the White House expect that to
double hopefully not the double digit inflation during the Carter years.

Good point, as I am at about 2005 valuations, at least I got more than 1%
return using Jan 2005 as a base. And in the bank, you might not get your
money. The last place to put it is the bank, find a brokerage account where
the broker does not do loans, mortgages and the like.

"Jim" wrote in message
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:58:20 -0500, Jim wrote:

wrote:
Got my financial reports on my investments today, lost nearly $85,000.
I have always been fiscally responsible, never carry any cc balance,
live within my means, save for retirement, dont own an expensive
house, etc.
So, my retirement fund loses $80,000 due to Dem Chris Dodd of the
banking comitttee and Barney Frank and the other dems who refused to
take action in 2005 when they were warned their actions were
endangering the economy. DEMS OWE ME BIG MONEY. I figure I have paid
my share of the national debt, Dems can all pay the rest. If you
voted Dem, you pay. The market isnt coming back any time soon because
nobody in their right mind would invest knowing the crooks now control
the economy. I dun paid my part of the debt, so if you voted Dem, pay
up cuz YOU caused the problem.
I feel your pain.

No pain, no gain. :)
Not worried about gain just yet. Recovered over 20k the past 7 days.
That's a start.

My foreign holdings are up. US Domestic is shot to hell.

Canuck57 wrote:
"Keith nuttle" wrote in message
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:34:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

So, my retirement fund loses $80,000 due to Dem Chris Dodd of the
banking comitttee and Barney Frank and the other dems who refused to
take action in 2005 when they were warned their actions were
endangering the economy
No - you lost $85,000 because you were stupid enough to keep your
funds in whatever type of account you had it in.

Cash dude - been saying that for years - in fact, since 2004.

Haven't lost a thing because I recognized the bubble and kept my
powder dry.

Another couple of months, I'm ready to get back in.
Except the 2% LOST to inflation every year. or about 100/1000 over the
four years. With the twit going to be in the White House expect that to
double hopefully not the double digit inflation during the Carter years.

Good point, as I am at about 2005 valuations, at least I got more than 1%
return using Jan 2005 as a base. And in the bank, you might not get your
money. The last place to put it is the bank, find a brokerage account where
the broker does not do loans, mortgages and the like.


Please explain. I think you got it backwards.

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On Nov 5, 9:34 pm, wrote:
Got my financial reports on my investments today, lost nearly $85,000.
I have always been fiscally responsible, never carry any cc balance,
live within my means, save for retirement, dont own an expensive
house, etc.
So, my retirement fund loses $80,000 due to Dem Chris Dodd of the
banking comitttee and Barney Frank and the other dems who refused to
take action in 2005 when they were warned their actions were
endangering the economy. DEMS OWE ME BIG MONEY. I figure I have paid
my share of the national debt, Dems can all pay the rest. If you
voted Dem, you pay. The market isnt coming back any time soon because
nobody in their right mind would invest knowing the crooks now control
the economy. I dun paid my part of the debt, so if you voted Dem, pay
up cuz YOU caused the problem.

Hold up! What about the Republican mantra of don't interfere with my
possessions? Just how did the "dems" control your finances? You could
do anything you wanted with the money. Just because you chose to risk
it for a higher yield isn't anyone's fault but yours.
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Everyone is entitled to their own

I privately manage my own portfolio and in any 2 year cycle (except for
2008) I have beat bank returns by at least twice the amount, often 5 times!
Over time that adds up nice. But I don't own a single bond or mutual fund.
Been this way for over 15 years. 2004/2005 was obscene, I make far more
than was lost in this year. And I don't subscribe to buy and hold. The
longest stock I have is just 4 years old.

Mutual funds and large investment houses are at a disadvantage, they can't
get in, do the high and dump as I can. Often I only trade 1000 shares, but
they need to do a million or more. I call it the small investors hands on
advantage.

Heavy in cash right now, have been since April but have bought about 5
recently. One is down 5%, 2 went sideways and 2 put on 25% so far. At
least one I am going to sell as it is ultra short term.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:34:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

So, my retirement fund loses $80,000 due to Dem Chris Dodd of the
banking comitttee and Barney Frank and the other dems who refused to
take action in 2005 when they were warned their actions were
endangering the economy

No - you lost $85,000 because you were stupid enough to keep your
funds in whatever type of account you had it in.


He hasn't "lost" anything unless he bailed.
Better to sit it out.

Eisboch

Only to a point. Last April I bailed off the US markets but keep to much
in the foreign markets. I had the right idea, but underestimated the
depth of this one. Still, not hurting as bad as many.

I don't see a domestic buying opportunity, I suspect this depression of
stocks is going to be with us for some time to come.


You might want to read this:

http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/arti...einvest/118916

Eisboch

On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:16:57 -0500, wrote:


Just think what a Democratic Administration might accomplish if it
didn't have to expend all it's time and energy correcting Republican
messes.

Getting in your excuses early?

Stick with what's on your pedo mind.
--
John H

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