What do i need? A wetsuit or drysuit? Would like to start getting gear
for spring and next winter kayaking in the northeast usa. Any websites
with info would be great, but would like to hear from those who have
done it, and maybe those who have taken a dunk and lived to tell about
it.

Thanks

Tim wrote:
What do i need? A wetsuit or drysuit? Would like to start getting gear
for spring and next winter kayaking in the northeast usa. Any websites
with info would be great, but would like to hear from those who have
done it, and maybe those who have taken a dunk and lived to tell about
it.

Get a waterproof/breathable (Gore-Tex or similar) dry suit. Waters in
the northeast are far too cold in the winter and spring for wetsuits.
For example, the ocean temp in the Boston area is currently 36 degrees.
In the spring, the water is usually in the 40's until late May/early
June. I've paddled these conditions for 4 winters and have done a lot of
swimming in water in the 40's during training exercises. No wetsuit that
you could paddle in will protect you from such temps. I suggest that you
equip your dry suit with a relief zipper and waterproof booties (latex
or Gore-Tex).

You'll need good gloves. I prefer Nordic Blue dry gloves, but most
people us neoprene gloves.

You'll need a neoprene hood, too. A 3mm hood is about as thick as most
people can use comfortable while paddle, but thicker hoods are good for
rolling practice. O'Neil's Cold Water hood is a good one. It fits better
than most (though it runs a bit small), has an adjustable face seal and
a nice brim. The close fit in the neck minimizes water intrusion.

If you're in the Boston area, check into the North Shore Paddler's
Network at www.nspn.org. It's the largest, most active club in the area,
with many winter paddlers.

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:50:16 GMT, Brian Nystrom
wrote:



Tim wrote:
What do i need? A wetsuit or drysuit? Would like to start getting gear
for spring and next winter kayaking in the northeast usa. Any websites
with info would be great, but would like to hear from those who have
done it, and maybe those who have taken a dunk and lived to tell about
it.

Get a waterproof/breathable (Gore-Tex or similar) dry suit. Waters in
the northeast are far too cold in the winter and spring for wetsuits.
For example, the ocean temp in the Boston area is currently 36 degrees.
In the spring, the water is usually in the 40's until late May/early
June. I've paddled these conditions for 4 winters and have done a lot of
swimming in water in the 40's during training exercises. No wetsuit that
you could paddle in will protect you from such temps. I suggest that you
equip your dry suit with a relief zipper and waterproof booties (latex
or Gore-Tex).

You'll need good gloves. I prefer Nordic Blue dry gloves, but most
people us neoprene gloves.

You'll need a neoprene hood, too. A 3mm hood is about as thick as most
people can use comfortable while paddle, but thicker hoods are good for
rolling practice. O'Neil's Cold Water hood is a good one. It fits better
than most (though it runs a bit small), has an adjustable face seal and
a nice brim. The close fit in the neck minimizes water intrusion.

If you're in the Boston area, check into the North Shore Paddler's
Network at www.nspn.org. It's the largest, most active club in the area,
with many winter paddlers.

Thanks very much Brian for your reply. That's just the info I needed
to get started.

Tim

Brian Nystrom wrote in news:seMVb.4631$fV5.137838
@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:



Tim wrote:
What do i need? A wetsuit or drysuit? Would like to start getting gear
for spring and next winter kayaking in the northeast usa. Any websites
with info would be great, but would like to hear from those who have
done it, and maybe those who have taken a dunk and lived to tell about
it.

Get a waterproof/breathable (Gore-Tex or similar) dry suit. Waters in
the northeast are far too cold in the winter and spring for wetsuits.
For example, the ocean temp in the Boston area is currently 36 degrees.
In the spring, the water is usually in the 40's until late May/early
June. I've paddled these conditions for 4 winters and have done a lot of
swimming in water in the 40's during training exercises. No wetsuit that
you could paddle in will protect you from such temps. I suggest that you
equip your dry suit with a relief zipper and waterproof booties (latex
or Gore-Tex).

Be prepared to spend $700-$900.

Also, always bring a dry change of cloths in a waterproof bag. Also pack
a hypothermia kit. a pancho, camping candle, and waterproof matches. You
must be ready for a drysuit failure. Also, a 2 way radio is recommended.

Tim wrote:

What do i need? A wetsuit or drysuit? Would like to start getting gear
for spring and next winter kayaking in the northeast usa. Any websites
with info would be great, but would like to hear from those who have
done it, and maybe those who have taken a dunk and lived to tell about
it.

Thanks

John Fereira wrote:

Be prepared to spend $700-$900.

While that's true of Kokatat and Stohlquist suits, you can order one
from Ravenspring, custom fit to your body dimensions, for less than $500
delivered. Ravenspring suits have interesting options such as internal
suspenders and sleeve and thigh pockets. Several of my paddling friends
have them and they rave about the suits, and also about Ravenspring's
service. www.ravenspring.com

A bargain basement option, if you fit the sizes available, is one of the
Gore-Tex "Canadian Air Force" dry suits made by Mustang that are sold
regularly on Ebay. They typically sell for under $100, but they are
designed to have booties added to fit the wearer, so they come with
short legs with no seals. For another $50, you can order latex booties
and glue from OS Systems (www.ossystems.com) and have a functional suit.
Another option would be to glue on neoprene socks or boots. The downside
is that these suits are a bit heavier and stiffer than commercial suits
and use an unusual, but functional, zipper configuration.

lcopps wrote in message nk.net...
Also, always bring a dry change of cloths in a waterproof bag. Also pack
a hypothermia kit. a pancho, camping candle, and waterproof matches. You
must be ready for a drysuit failure. Also, a 2 way radio is recommended.

Tim wrote:

What do i need? A wetsuit or drysuit? Would like to start getting gear
for spring and next winter kayaking in the northeast usa. Any websites
with info would be great, but would like to hear from those who have
done it, and maybe those who have taken a dunk and lived to tell about
it.

Thanks

I have 2 Kocotat dry suits. Neither are Goretex I wish they were. My
friends with Gore tex love it and I can see the difference getting out
of the water. I could not afford the extra $300.00
If you intend to paddle in the COLD you need a dry suit. Everything
else is common sence and should be dictated by where you are going. I
haul a ton of stuff with me but I paddle alone.
Wear thick poly Pro under it or it is a waste puting it on. I have
spent some time in the water , almost an hour last year for a photo
program. The suits work well.
I have had to roll several times in cold water and had a swim that
could have been nasty once.
Good luck
Alex

I've never had a full drysuit, having a big gut and small bladder, i
have never found them acceptable. I've done cold weather trips in a
wet suit and drytop, using paddle sweater as needed. I get soaked in a
regular drytop, from sweat. I don't kayak in cold weather any more,
but if I did, I'd come up with the money for goretex.
I find a helmet liner does more to keep me warm than a sweater, and
reach for it first if I start getting cold.
Dan

On 15 Feb 2004 21:32:34 -0800, (Alex
McGruer) wrote:

lcopps wrote in message nk.net...
Also, always bring a dry change of cloths in a waterproof bag. Also pack
a hypothermia kit. a pancho, camping candle, and waterproof matches. You
must be ready for a drysuit failure. Also, a 2 way radio is recommended.

Tim wrote:

What do i need? A wetsuit or drysuit? Would like to start getting gear
for spring and next winter kayaking in the northeast usa. Any websites
with info would be great, but would like to hear from those who have
done it, and maybe those who have taken a dunk and lived to tell about
it.

Thanks

I have 2 Kocotat dry suits. Neither are Goretex I wish they were. My
friends with Gore tex love it and I can see the difference getting out
of the water. I could not afford the extra $300.00
If you intend to paddle in the COLD you need a dry suit. Everything
else is common sence and should be dictated by where you are going. I
haul a ton of stuff with me but I paddle alone.
Wear thick poly Pro under it or it is a waste puting it on. I have
spent some time in the water , almost an hour last year for a photo
program. The suits work well.
I have had to roll several times in cold water and had a swim that
could have been nasty once.
Good luck
Alex

Colorado Springs, CO
My advice may be worth what you paid for it.