"Tim Ingram" wrote in message
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Notice how Brian and Rick want canoes and kayaks as dangerous as
possible.

Then they take money from the victims before they die. Then blame them
for their own deaths despite:


Hey, Brian,

That's my money! Give it back, will you.

US Coast Guard report 071-01: "Canoes and kayaks have by far the
highest fatality rates per million hours of exposure (.42) as any
other boat type". (This figure may be far too low, considering the
death statistics of the Ford/Firestone scandal, over a similar time
frame, with many more vehicles, many, many more use/hours daily, and
only 200 deaths.)


Notices how Tim uses aggragate data to foster a mistaken belief that canoes
and kayaks are dangerous. The number of sea kayak deaths, canoe deaths, and
white water boating deaths are very different. Sea kayaks, for example have
a considerably lower rate of injury/fatality than either of the other boats,
but for these are not separated in his statement. Sponsons have no practical
use (self-inflating, or not) on ww boating. Even Tim had to concede this
during the previous sponson wars. Of course, WW boating (kayaks and canoes)
are where the majority of deaths occur. If you remove all ww boating deaths
(which are the result of people intentionally seeking more dangerous
conditions where sponsons cannot be used), the statistics look very
different.

"A total of 105 canoeists and kayakers drowned in 1998. Canoes and
kayaks have the highest fatality rate of all boat types ñ double the
rate of personal watercraft and 4 times higher than open motorboats."
(Before the Subcommittee on Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation of
the U.S. House of Representatives, May 15, 2001, BOAT/U.S.)


You've said this thousands of times. We've heard you, read your invalid
data, and find you annoyingly stupid. You can go away now.

Rick

Rick wrote:
"Tim Ingram" wrote in message
...

Notice how Brian and Rick want canoes and kayaks as dangerous as
possible.

Then they take money from the victims before they die. Then blame them
for their own deaths despite:



Hey, Brian,

That's my money! Give it back, will you.

What money? Contrary to Timmah's erroneous assumptions, I don't get paid
to teach paddling skills and I don't sell boats or gear. Our club
provides a lot of free training and safety information to it's members
and to the public. It's our way of promoting safe, responsible paddling
in the area. We work with the CG, local harbormasters and local
businesses and they're pleased with what we do. The CG in the northeast
region has praised paddlers in the area for their safety consciousness
and high rate of PFD use. The reason for this is strong clubs and
guiding organizations that work to educate the paddling public. The
death rate among sea kayaker here is very low, despite cold water, high
boat traffic and often inhospitable shorelines.

As for Timmah, don't even try to reason with him. It's a complete waste
of time, as safety is NOT his motivation. He's a money-grubbing whackjob
that will stoop to any level to make a buck. He has no interest in
safety, just in lining his pockets. When shown the errors of his ways,
he simply reverts to repeating the same old lies, ad nauseum.

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What money? Contrary to Timmah's erroneous assumptions, I don't get paid
to teach paddling skills and I don't sell boats or gear. Our club
provides a lot of free training and safety information to it's members
and to the public. It's our way of promoting safe, responsible paddling
in the area.

Shucks, and I thought I was missing something. By the way, BASK and other
clubs out here in the west offer the same services, so for those of you
wishing to develop or improve skills, clubs offer some valuable (and low
cost) options.

We work with the CG, local harbormasters and local
businesses and they're pleased with what we do. The CG in the northeast
region has praised paddlers in the area for their safety consciousness
and high rate of PFD use. The reason for this is strong clubs and
guiding organizations that work to educate the paddling public. The
death rate among sea kayaker here is very low, despite cold water, high
boat traffic and often inhospitable shorelines.


The death rate among sea kayakers is typically very low. Each year, sea
kayaker reports a handful along with a number of near misses. In most of
these, the problem was not a lack of sponsons, but a lack of preparation for
immersion (cited in virtually all of these events).

As for Timmah, don't even try to reason with him. It's a complete waste
of time, as safety is NOT his motivation. He's a money-grubbing whackjob
that will stoop to any level to make a buck. He has no interest in
safety, just in lining his pockets. When shown the errors of his ways,
he simply reverts to repeating the same old lies, ad nauseum.


I've stopped trying to reason and have resorted to making fun of him. He is
such an easy target. Besides, I enjoy his (sarcasm alert) brilliant email
responses (end alert), complete with expletatives and childish ranting.

Rick