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John April 8th 04 04:27 PM

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Tony:
You will have to put up with the noise. A friend who used to paddle a lot
got a deal on a two HP o/b. Can go all day on a gallon but he does not like
the loss of serenity and neither do I when I paddle beside him.

I have an electric motor. Quiet. but the battery weighs about 60 lbs. Motor
is havy too. Range is about 10 miles.

Could/Would you switch to a kayak? I find canoeing which i used to do a
lot, hurts my back so I use a kayak which is more balanced. Still it is
peaceful and less work in the wind..

FWIW
John
"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
...
Can't paddle like I used to - is a small outboard the answer?
Tony





Alan Smith April 8th 04 08:10 PM

Outboard Motor
 
"Quiet" is a relative term Next to a 140 hp the 2.3hp is dead "quiet", but
compared to a paddle it's still noisier than heck. I understand that your
back problem makes canoe paddling difficult if not nigh onto impossible, but
I gather from your query that you are only assuming that the problem will
also make kayak paddling difficult. If I'm correct then why not actually
try a kayak just to be sure? There's a world of difference between paddling
the two types of craft and, with the proper seat arrangement - Wilderness
Systems Phase 3 seat, for example - you may be quite comfortable.
"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
...
I like the quiet too, but I can't paddle - back problem like John. I
imagine, for me, a kayak would not do either. I'm thinking of the Honda 4
stroke 2.3 hp outboard. This is alleged to be "quiet" - is it any good?

"John" wrote in message
...
Tony:
You will have to put up with the noise. A friend who used to paddle a

lot
got a deal on a two HP o/b. Can go all day on a gallon but he does not

like
the loss of serenity and neither do I when I paddle beside him.

I have an electric motor. Quiet. but the battery weighs about 60 lbs.

Motor
is havy too. Range is about 10 miles.

Could/Would you switch to a kayak? I find canoeing which i used to do

a
lot, hurts my back so I use a kayak which is more balanced. Still it is
peaceful and less work in the wind..

FWIW
John
"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
...
Can't paddle like I used to - is a small outboard the answer?
Tony









Serge April 8th 04 10:34 PM

Outboard Motor
 
There is a curious motor mount on the kayak's
rudder:www.LightPerformanceWorks.com

Richard Ferguson April 8th 04 10:36 PM

Outboard Motor
 
I have a 4 hp Yamaha 4-stroke, much quieter than my old 7 hp 2-stroke,
especially at low RPM. I imagine that a smaller Honda 4 stroke would be
even quieter.

I have not used it on my canoe, too heavy, probably too powerful, around
50 pounds, I recall. I use it on a 14 foot aluminum boat that weighs
150 pounds or so. The aluminum boat lives on the trailer, although I
think that it could be rooftopped with the right system.

Richard



Tony Roberts wrote:

Can't paddle like I used to - is a small outboard the answer?
Tony


Tony Roberts April 9th 04 12:14 AM

Outboard Motor
 
Can't paddle like I used to - is a small outboard the answer?
Tony



Tony Roberts April 9th 04 02:10 AM

Outboard Motor
 
I like the quiet too, but I can't paddle - back problem like John. I
imagine, for me, a kayak would not do either. I'm thinking of the Honda 4
stroke 2.3 hp outboard. This is alleged to be "quiet" - is it any good?

"John" wrote in message
...
Tony:
You will have to put up with the noise. A friend who used to paddle a lot
got a deal on a two HP o/b. Can go all day on a gallon but he does not

like
the loss of serenity and neither do I when I paddle beside him.

I have an electric motor. Quiet. but the battery weighs about 60 lbs.

Motor
is havy too. Range is about 10 miles.

Could/Would you switch to a kayak? I find canoeing which i used to do a
lot, hurts my back so I use a kayak which is more balanced. Still it is
peaceful and less work in the wind..

FWIW
John
"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
...
Can't paddle like I used to - is a small outboard the answer?
Tony







[email protected] April 9th 04 02:39 AM

Outboard Motor
 
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:14:59 -0700, "Tony Roberts"
wrote:

Can't paddle like I used to - is a small outboard the answer?
Tony

I used to use a little MinKota electric on my canoe. Crept up river
relatively slowly and _very_ quietly. A couple of times startled the
heck out of wild turkeys near the shore. Once during hunting season
when they're really paranoid. You'll want a motor mount (my Stearns
inflatable has one, but I quietly set it aside as soon as I bought
it). The battery, however, weighs as much as a full gas tank. I got
tired of carrying it to and from the truck. Hmmm. If I used the boat
ramp, I'd be closer, right? Maybe I'll try that again on this one.
But first I'll try hefting a battery. Now that I have an indoor
garage with electric plugs, I'd not have to carry it from vehicle to
house, either. And I'm using a car, so the lift in and out wouldn't
be as high. The motor itself is very light, btw.
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Though I'm very slow to respond.
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Tony Roberts April 9th 04 05:20 AM

Outboard Motor
 
I'll give it a go.

"Alan Smith" wrote in message
...
"Quiet" is a relative term Next to a 140 hp the 2.3hp is dead "quiet",

but
compared to a paddle it's still noisier than heck. I understand that your
back problem makes canoe paddling difficult if not nigh onto impossible,

but
I gather from your query that you are only assuming that the problem will
also make kayak paddling difficult. If I'm correct then why not actually
try a kayak just to be sure? There's a world of difference between

paddling
the two types of craft and, with the proper seat arrangement - Wilderness
Systems Phase 3 seat, for example - you may be quite comfortable.
"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
...
I like the quiet too, but I can't paddle - back problem like John. I
imagine, for me, a kayak would not do either. I'm thinking of the Honda

4
stroke 2.3 hp outboard. This is alleged to be "quiet" - is it any good?

"John" wrote in message
...
Tony:
You will have to put up with the noise. A friend who used to paddle a

lot
got a deal on a two HP o/b. Can go all day on a gallon but he does

not
like
the loss of serenity and neither do I when I paddle beside him.

I have an electric motor. Quiet. but the battery weighs about 60 lbs.

Motor
is havy too. Range is about 10 miles.

Could/Would you switch to a kayak? I find canoeing which i used to

do
a
lot, hurts my back so I use a kayak which is more balanced. Still it

is
peaceful and less work in the wind..

FWIW
John
"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
...
Can't paddle like I used to - is a small outboard the answer?
Tony











Steven Bennett April 9th 04 10:47 PM

Outboard Motor
 
I also have back problems and the Wilderness
Systems Phase 3 seat made a world of difference when it came to paddling my
Kayak.

Just thought I should give my two cents.
Steve

--
Steve Bennett
Freelance Web Developer

"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
...
I'll give it a go.

"Alan Smith" wrote in message
...
"Quiet" is a relative term Next to a 140 hp the 2.3hp is dead "quiet",

but
compared to a paddle it's still noisier than heck. I understand that

your
back problem makes canoe paddling difficult if not nigh onto impossible,

but
I gather from your query that you are only assuming that the problem

will
also make kayak paddling difficult. If I'm correct then why not

actually
try a kayak just to be sure? There's a world of difference between

paddling
the two types of craft and, with the proper seat arrangement -

Wilderness
Systems Phase 3 seat, for example - you may be quite comfortable.
"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
...
I like the quiet too, but I can't paddle - back problem like John. I
imagine, for me, a kayak would not do either. I'm thinking of the

Honda
4
stroke 2.3 hp outboard. This is alleged to be "quiet" - is it any

good?

"John" wrote in message
...
Tony:
You will have to put up with the noise. A friend who used to paddle

a
lot
got a deal on a two HP o/b. Can go all day on a gallon but he does

not
like
the loss of serenity and neither do I when I paddle beside him.

I have an electric motor. Quiet. but the battery weighs about 60

lbs.
Motor
is havy too. Range is about 10 miles.

Could/Would you switch to a kayak? I find canoeing which i used to

do
a
lot, hurts my back so I use a kayak which is more balanced. Still it

is
peaceful and less work in the wind..

FWIW
John
"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
...
Can't paddle like I used to - is a small outboard the answer?
Tony













Tony Roberts April 10th 04 02:40 AM

Outboard Motor
 
I saw and heard running today the 2.3 Honda and a 2.5 Mariner. The latter is
also sold badged as Mercury and is made by Tohatsu. Interestingly, they are
both much noiser than I expected, but the Mariner, which is a water cooled
2 stroke is much quieter than the Honda which is an air cooled 4 stroke.
Also, the vibration is much less on the Mariner. So, surprises all round.
Now I'm not sure whether either is suitable. I'll need to think about it.
What would be really nice would be the Honda engine from one of their
generators, which are really quiet, fitted to the marine output
transmission. The dealer I spoke to said the previous Honda model, a side
valve engine, was much quieter. He had also tried to silence the 2.3 without
success. It needs a bigger exhaust system apparently.


"Richard Ferguson" wrote in message
...
I have a 4 hp Yamaha 4-stroke, much quieter than my old 7 hp 2-stroke,
especially at low RPM. I imagine that a smaller Honda 4 stroke would be
even quieter.

I have not used it on my canoe, too heavy, probably too powerful, around
50 pounds, I recall. I use it on a 14 foot aluminum boat that weighs
150 pounds or so. The aluminum boat lives on the trailer, although I
think that it could be rooftopped with the right system.

Richard



Tony Roberts wrote:

Can't paddle like I used to - is a small outboard the answer?
Tony





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