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Steven Bennett April 10th 04 12:25 AM

Any thoughts
 
Does anybody have any thoughts on the Pungo 140 as a starter for my wife.
Looking for any input. I hear it is a great starter or more, good stability
and tracking.

Anyone?

Steve

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Steve Bennett
Freelance Web Developer



Matt Langenfeld April 10th 04 03:51 AM

Any thoughts
 
I've paddled a pungo. Very nice boat and forgiving to a beginner.

--
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
http://jem.e-boat.net/

Steven Bennett wrote:
Does anybody have any thoughts on the Pungo 140 as a starter for my wife.
Looking for any input. I hear it is a great starter or more, good stability
and tracking.

Anyone?

Steve



jeffh129 April 13th 04 10:33 PM

Any thoughts
 
I agree, Wilderness Systems makes great yaks. However they are
experiancing very bad financial problems at the moment. There is a
possibility they won't be around a year from now.



"Steven Bennett" wrote in message . ..
Does anybody have any thoughts on the Pungo 140 as a starter for my wife.
Looking for any input. I hear it is a great starter or more, good stability
and tracking.

Anyone?

Steve


John April 14th 04 12:58 AM

Any thoughts
 
I got my wife a WS Cape Horn 17 as her first kayak. It was the first
she ever sat in. It has worked out very well, She has a stable boat yet
it is one that allows her to keep up with me. I am glad she was "broken
in" in that rather than a lesser boat which I would then have to upgrade

jeffh129 wrote:
I agree, Wilderness Systems makes great yaks. However they are
experiancing very bad financial problems at the moment. There is a
possibility they won't be around a year from now.



"Steven Bennett" wrote in message . ..

Does anybody have any thoughts on the Pungo 140 as a starter for my wife.
Looking for any input. I hear it is a great starter or more, good stability
and tracking.

Anyone?

Steve



Gordon Niessen April 14th 04 02:30 AM

Any thoughts
 
jeffh129 wrote:

I agree, Wilderness Systems makes great yaks. However they are
experiencing very bad financial problems at the moment. There is a
possibility they won't be around a year from now.




Maybe if people can keep focusing on their quality and not on their
financial situation, then they can survive. Luxury business are being
hurt by the recession. But you can buy a lot of Kayaks for the same
price as a power boat or wave runner. And it is a great way to get
away from the troubles of everyday life.


--
Gordon Niessen
If you aren't on the bleeding edge, you are history.

jeffh129 April 14th 04 05:45 PM

Any thoughts
 
"Gordon Niessen" wrote in message ...
jeffh129 wrote:

I agree, Wilderness Systems makes great yaks. However they are
experiencing very bad financial problems at the moment. There is a
possibility they won't be around a year from now.




Maybe if people can keep focusing on their quality and not on their
financial situation, then they can survive. Luxury business are being
hurt by the recession. But you can buy a lot of Kayaks for the same
price as a power boat or wave runner. And it is a great way to get
away from the troubles of everyday life.


Well, facts are facts. They are on their third CEO in three years. The
laid off a ton of people, and the remaining folks took 20% wage cuts.
I'm very familiar with company's going bankrupt and this fits the
pattern, perfectly.

Still, I am considering buying a Pungo 120.

The outlook for the entire recreation industry doesn't look good. The
economy sucks. Jobs are "on the rise," if you want to work at
McDonalds. For a lot of people, paying the rent and putting food on
the table will be taking priority in the near future. Not buying boats
or kayaks.

Dave Van April 15th 04 03:15 AM

Any thoughts
 

"looie" wrote in message
...
On 14 Apr 2004 08:45:44 -0700, (jeffh129) wrote:

"Gordon Niessen" wrote in message

...
jeffh129 wrote:

I agree, Wilderness Systems makes great yaks. However they are
experiencing very bad financial problems at the moment. There is a
possibility they won't be around a year from now.




Maybe if people can keep focusing on their quality and not on their
financial situation, then they can survive. Luxury business are being
hurt by the recession. But you can buy a lot of Kayaks for the same
price as a power boat or wave runner. And it is a great way to get
away from the troubles of everyday life.


Well, facts are facts. They are on their third CEO in three years. The
laid off a ton of people, and the remaining folks took 20% wage cuts.
I'm very familiar with company's going bankrupt and this fits the
pattern, perfectly.

Still, I am considering buying a Pungo 120.

The outlook for the entire recreation industry doesn't look good. The
economy sucks. Jobs are "on the rise," if you want to work at
McDonalds. For a lot of people, paying the rent and putting food on
the table will be taking priority in the near future. Not buying boats
or kayaks.


Of course, the voters brought this upon themselves. Will they ever
wake up?


The voters? Maybe a little more than half the voters did but certainly not
this voter!



lcopps April 15th 04 09:08 AM

Any thoughts
 
Foolishly, many think elected officials control the economy. The reality
is the disposable government budget is not large enough to make much of
a difference. Politicians who promise they can reverse the trend are
liars. plain and simple. Its the economy stupid. The real problem is the
recklessness in the 90s by investors pouring money into companies that
have no chance of success and the appetite for companies to send jobs to
all corners of the earth to people who work for almost free. It makes it
hard for US companies to compete. You can't compete with someone who
works for less than a tenth of the price. Workers can no longer bring
home the bacon.

Rather than vote for politicians who sell empty promises,

1. Buy American. Even though it will most likely cost more.
2. Buy American.
3. Buy American.

looie wrote:

On 14 Apr 2004 08:45:44 -0700, (jeffh129) wrote:


"Gordon Niessen" wrote in message ...

jeffh129 wrote:


I agree, Wilderness Systems makes great yaks. However they are
experiencing very bad financial problems at the moment. There is a
possibility they won't be around a year from now.




Maybe if people can keep focusing on their quality and not on their
financial situation, then they can survive. Luxury business are being
hurt by the recession. But you can buy a lot of Kayaks for the same
price as a power boat or wave runner. And it is a great way to get
away from the troubles of everyday life.


Well, facts are facts. They are on their third CEO in three years. The
laid off a ton of people, and the remaining folks took 20% wage cuts.
I'm very familiar with company's going bankrupt and this fits the
pattern, perfectly.

Still, I am considering buying a Pungo 120.

The outlook for the entire recreation industry doesn't look good. The
economy sucks. Jobs are "on the rise," if you want to work at
McDonalds. For a lot of people, paying the rent and putting food on
the table will be taking priority in the near future. Not buying boats
or kayaks.



Of course, the voters brought this upon themselves. Will they ever
wake up?



steveJ April 15th 04 04:37 PM

Any thoughts
 

lcopps wrote:
It makes it
hard for US companies to compete. You can't compete with someone who
works for less than a tenth of the price. Workers can no longer bring
home the bacon.


You mean it makes it hard for American WORKERS to compete, don't you?
U.S. companies are regularly having their goods made elsewhere to gain
price advantages and are competing just fine.

I'm thinking that the only thing that has saved any U.S. canoe and kayak
manufacturers at all is the fact that these boats are large and bulky
relative to their dollar value. This makes shipping expensive.
Otherwise, I think all such boats would be made in Malaysia for 55 cents
an hour. Personally I prefer the custom tailored approach, fitting each
boat to its owner and building one at a time. Expensive? Yes, but not if
you are doing it for yourself.

lcopps wrote:
Foolishly, many think elected officials control the economy. The reality
is the disposable government budget is not large enough to make much of
a difference. Politicians who promise they can reverse the trend are
liars. plain and simple. Its the economy stupid. The real problem is the
recklessness in the 90s by investors pouring money into companies that
have no chance of success and the appetite for companies to send jobs to
all corners of the earth to people who work for almost free.

Rather than vote for politicians who sell empty promises,

1. Buy American. Even though it will most likely cost more.
2. Buy American.
3. Buy American.

looie wrote:

On 14 Apr 2004 08:45:44 -0700, (jeffh129) wrote:


"Gordon Niessen" wrote in message
...

jeffh129 wrote:


I agree, Wilderness Systems makes great yaks. However they are
experiencing very bad financial problems at the moment. There is a
possibility they won't be around a year from now.




Maybe if people can keep focusing on their quality and not on their
financial situation, then they can survive. Luxury business are being
hurt by the recession. But you can buy a lot of Kayaks for the same
price as a power boat or wave runner. And it is a great way to get
away from the troubles of everyday life.


Well, facts are facts. They are on their third CEO in three years. The
laid off a ton of people, and the remaining folks took 20% wage cuts.
I'm very familiar with company's going bankrupt and this fits the
pattern, perfectly.

Still, I am considering buying a Pungo 120.

The outlook for the entire recreation industry doesn't look good. The
economy sucks. Jobs are "on the rise," if you want to work at
McDonalds. For a lot of people, paying the rent and putting food on
the table will be taking priority in the near future. Not buying boats
or kayaks.




Of course, the voters brought this upon themselves. Will they ever
wake up?






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