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John Fereira wrote in message ...
I admit that I haven't paddled the new Impex version of the Outer Island but I've been paddling a cedar strip version I built for a couple of years. Yes, it has good initial stability for a 21" wide boat, but it also edges and turns quite well for a 17'10" long boat. Does this look like it's hard to edge? http://caddis.mannlib.cornell.edu/pa...nd/launch7.gif Well, no it certainly does not. On the other hand my experience with the fiberglass version was decidedly different. I want a boat, the stability of which allows me to place it on balance edge with J-leans alone. some of the boats are so stiff they may require upper body leans and strong bracing which is not for me. I want to lift my knee and get the boat over as far as I want. I can't do that with a lot of so called strongly stabile boats Thanks, Gene |
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"Michael Daly" wrote in news:ZomdnaIIspys9w_cRVn-
: On 10-Nov-2004, (Gene Cosloy) wrote: I want a boat, the stability of which allows me to place it on balance edge with J-leans alone. some of the boats are so stiff they may require upper body leans and strong bracing which is not for me. I want to lift my knee and get the boat over as far as I want. I can't do that with a lot of so called strongly stabile boats While not guaranteed, in general hard chine kayaks tend to have the characteristics you want. Round chines tend to have the secondary kick in early and are harder to edge. Hard chines tend to roll quickly and then hit a solid secondary. I've experienced the same but it also depends how deep the V is in the hull. In the case of, for example, an Artic Hawk the initial stability feels "twitchy" and actually feels more comfortable if you're not trying to keep it perfectly centered. Once you let it go from one side or the other it feels a lot more controllable. Once you're moving though it feels plenty stable. My CLC Northbay feels the same way. |
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"Michael Daly" wrote in message ...
While not guaranteed, in general hard chine kayaks tend to have the characteristics you want. Round chines tend to have the secondary kick in early and are harder to edge. Hard chines tend to roll quickly and then hit a solid secondary. Mike My experience has been mixed with hard chined boats. The NDK Greenlander Pro does behave as you describe, however the Caribou seemed much stiffer. On the other hand the Valley Nordkapp which I believe is soft chined rolls easily through the secondary and appears to hit nothing solid. Gene |
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(Gene Cosloy) wrote in
om: John Fereira wrote in message ... I admit that I haven't paddled the new Impex version of the Outer Island but I've been paddling a cedar strip version I built for a couple of years. Yes, it has good initial stability for a 21" wide boat, but it also edges and turns quite well for a 17'10" long boat. Does this look like it's hard to edge? http://caddis.mannlib.cornell.edu/pa...nd/launch7.gif Well, no it certainly does not. On the other hand my experience with the fiberglass version was decidedly different. I want a boat, the stability of which allows me to place it on balance edge with J-leans alone. That is different. I have no trouble putting the cockpit rim underwater with just a J-lean. In the picture from the link I *am* leaning over with the paddle in a high brace position but that is what I was trying to do at the time. some of the boats are so stiff they may require upper body leans and strong bracing which is not for me. I want to lift my knee and get the boat over as far as I want. I can't do that with a lot of so called strongly stabile boats I understand where you're coming from. I tried a local paddlers boat a few years ago that he'd built that I could not get on edge unless I really leaned over the side. The problem wasn't so much the design of the hull as much as the height of the seat. He hadn't built the seat yet and was just using a half inch foam pad. Since I carved a foam seat for my Outer Island I've been able to carve enough off the bottom such that it feels like an optimal height for stability and boat control. I would imagine that adding a bit of padding on the seat of the Impex version would change the stability and boat control characteristics significantly. |
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