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riverman wrote:
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riverman wrote:
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New 16 foot folding canoe (used once for 1 hour). Portage
yolk.
Knee pads.

These boats were formerly sold under the Mad River brand
name.

To see boat go to www.pakboats.com

$200 off new price of $1695 and I'll throw in the kneepads
for
free.

Portage yoke is $55.

Boat is in Tucson, Arizona at the moment.

I'll split the shipping.


Charles; I might be interested. I'm out of the US, but do some
online research and find out what shipping to Bath, Maine
costs,
post it here, and I'll get back to you.

--riverman

PS: although its only been used for an hour, I would want to
see
some

detailed pics, if thats okay.

riverman, they have been talking about this 18 lbs, hard shell
folder on bagboaters, you might want to check it our,

http://www.foldlite.com/info.html

They sell for $795 if I remember right.

Some there have been less than excited about the pakboat for
anything serious. The frame is a little to light, and subject to
difficulties in high seas, like demonstrating its ability to
self
fold. Not good!

I don't know if they have any reports out yet on this foldlite
though, but may be good to check out. TnT


Looks interesting, Tom, but its a kayak and I'm a canoist. I have
access to seakayaks at my new school, but my first love is open
boats.
The lines on the pakcanoe are very similar to the MR Explorer,
which
is (IMNSHO) the best boat ever made. But the durability of the
pakboat
is a serious consideration. Anyone else got stories?

--riverman

I forget so quickly that you are an open boater.

Even if he was interested in a kayak I doubt that someone with as
much
paddling experience as riverman has would be interested. Yes, it's
only 18
pounds but it's also 10' long and 31" wide, putting it in the
recreational
class. An inflatable seyvlor would likely have better performance.
Pakboats also makes a model called a Puffin which is also the same
length,
weighs in a 17 pounds, and can be fitted with a spray deck.

Foldlite is coming out
with some new products which may interest you, did you see them.
One is
canoe, I believe.

I think that riverman should come over to the dark side and build one
of Tom
Yosts designed folding greenland kayaks.

Yeah I noticed that it is a bit stoggy and beamy, but for an older
stuck-in-his-rut open boat man, it might be a good place for him to
start.

But then it could be like in the movie Quincy, where at the end after
the gunfight, Quicy says, "I didn't say I didn't know how to use one,
it's just not my preference!"

I'm in favor of that darkside metamorphosis, Yost being a neighbor of
mine here in Denver, and him making some dandy boats. Though I don't
know whether riverman is inclined to the hobby craftsmen aspect of
building your own, besides having the time between now and going to, is
it HK. TnT