BCITORGB wrote:
Tink:
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Landlubbers call them ropes, they're called lines! TnT
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Sorry to disappoint, sailors call them sheets.

Wilf

And then there are painters!

Somewhere I say a website that described all the different lines with
their corresponding names on a 4-masted ship. Pretty amazing.

Of course being land locked and icebound will make a land lubber out of
most sane men. Hopefully for KMAN's sake the ice melts soon! TnT

Tink hopes:
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Of course being land locked and icebound will make a land lubber out of
most sane men. Hopefully for KMAN's sake the ice melts soon! TnT
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But I think he should fix those broken pic links on his website first
;-) frayed sheets/line/ropes can wait.

Wilf

Tink, I'm pleased to report the contraption is "together" and it bears
my signatu "workmanship like crap". However, I think, with a few
modifications, it'll work just fine.

For example, the U-bolts to attach to the existing factory r-rack: well
they worked in theory (story of my life), but when I got it up on the
roof it looked like Plan B, with slightly different sized U-bolts,
would have to be activated.

I've got two 7.5' longitudinal 2x4's with two 2x6 cross pieces (with
hull curvature cut into them) plus one 2x3 (hey, that's what I had
lying around the back 40) cross piece right at the front of the
contraption.

I'm quite pleased with my cut-out bits as there's nary a sliver of
light (OK, OK, a sliver or two) between the hull and the 2x6 cross
pieces. Once I glue some foam to that, I think it'll be awesome.

The middle cross piece is directly under the middle bulwark and the aft
cross piece is about 2" from the aft bulwark (given the configuration
of the factory r-rack, that's the best I could do).

The forward cross piece (2x3) is about 2.5' in front of the mid one,
and provides some nice extra support so that I don't have the feeling
that the front will be flopping about (there'll still be about 6' out
front of that which is unsupported).

Once I got it together, I was pleased to note that it really wasn't
that heavy and could easily be popped on to the roof.

A few things to do yet: gotta get some brackets to lend stability to
the frame, glue on the foam, drill some holes for ropes.... finito!

Although I have a feeling that there'll be no end to this.

Wilf

BCITORGB wrote:
Tink hopes:
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Of course being land locked and icebound will make a land lubber out
of
most sane men. Hopefully for KMAN's sake the ice melts soon! TnT
=========

But I think he should fix those broken pic links on his website first
;-) frayed sheets/line/ropes can wait.

Wilf

Granted there is alot up his way that needs to be fixed, might as well
fix the broken links first. Those being his contact with the rest of us
sane folk out here. TnT

On 1-Apr-2005, "BCITORGB" wrote:

Sorry to disappoint, sailors call them sheets.

Nope - TnT is right - they are lines. Sheets are specific
types of lines - they are attached to the clew of a sail and
are used to control the sail. Guys are attached to the tack
of a sail and halyards are attached to the heads of sails.
This terminology for triangular sails - rectangular (or more
generally, four sided) sails use slightly different names.

There's lots of other lines too.

Mike

KMAN wrote in
:

in article D353e.866271$8l.306388@pd7tw1no, frtzw906 at
wrote on 4/1/05 12:34 AM:

The best thing to do is simply start. Introduce a new thread and see
where it goes. It isn't the responsibility of the rest of the world
to provide the type of discussion you are looking for.

KMAN:
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That being said, the dang water is still frozen here, so aside from
telling you about getting my gear organized, there isn't much to say
for another couple of weeks :)
================

I think I'm going to bolt my roofrack contraption together tomorrow.

Wilf
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I think I will inspect various ropes for evidence of fraying.


I'm going to drill about 16 holes in the deck of my cedar strip kayak.

I've never cared much for the deck fittings (web loops) I originally
installed so I'm going to build in some recessed fittings. The fittings are
simply small pieces of mahogany, about an inch long, 1/4" wide, and 1/2"
deep with two holes drilled in the side. The holes in the deck will be
drilled with a 1" forstner bit, and the a 2" (or so) diameter piece of wood
(probably red cedar) will cover the hole under the deck and will be epoxied
in place. Then I'll use the same forstner bit do drill into the under deck
covers to a depth such that the fittings will be flush with the top of the
deck. I'll epoxy the fittings into place, then sand the deck around the
fittings for a piece of fiberglass cloth covering the fittings. After
filling in weave, the rest of the deck and hull will be get a light sanding
before putting on several coats of varnish. When I'm done the boat will
have a much nice deck rigging layout and will likely look better than the
day I first launched it.

Mike:
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Nope - TnT is right - they are lines. Sheets are specific
types of lines
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Yeah, I know. But as an ex-sailor I had to be the smart-ass.

Wilf

I'm not a very handy guy and the lack of a drawing doesn't help a
dimwit like me figure this out. But here's my question: won't you have
16 holes in which water will pool? If so, I'm guessing that it's not an
issue?

Wilf
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BCITORGB wrote:
Mike:
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Nope - TnT is right - they are lines. Sheets are specific
types of lines
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Yeah, I know. But as an ex-sailor I had to be the smart-ass.

Wilf

Wilf, therein lies the problem, this NG is for paddle craft. The sailor
are three doors down and on the right. The only things sheets are good
for around here is to wrap yourself up in with the honey, and snuggle!
TnT

"frtzw906" wrote in message
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"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article D353e.866271$8l.306388@pd7tw1no, frtzw906 at

wrote on 4/1/05 12:34 AM:

The best thing to do is simply start. Introduce a new thread and see
where
it goes. It isn't the responsibility of the rest of the world to
provide
the
type of discussion you are looking for.

KMAN:
===========
That being said, the dang water is still frozen here, so aside from
telling
you about getting my gear organized, there isn't much to say for another
couple of weeks :)
================

I think I'm going to bolt my roofrack contraption together tomorrow.

Wilf
===========

I think I will inspect various ropes for evidence of fraying.
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C'mon KMAN, you're supposed to take this seriously. I REALLY am going to
bolt my contraption together. That is, is the rain holds off, because I
have to lay it out on the picnic table to do so (and I don't want to get
wet).

I think I'll also work on some biking trip reports (website). Which
reminds me, a number of the links to pictures on your website are
dead-ends. Did you know that?

frtzw906

Yeah, it needs a total overhaul. Moved to a new server. Thanks for the
reminder.