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I am new to kayaking. On my son's advise I bought a used Valley Avocet.
I like the the boat's performance, but since I kayak alone often with few other boats of any kind on the lake, a bit more stability would be comforting. Also, since I load and unload it alone, a lighter boat would be appreciated. I am looking at a carbon-kevlar Impex Montauk. Lighter in weight. That is nice. Reportedly a bit more secondary stability. Haven't had a chance to demo one yet. Opinions on the Montauk. Opinions on the Avocet vs the Montauk. Would this trade make any sense? |
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:40:40 GMT, "JSB" wrote:
I am new to kayaking. On my son's advise I bought a used Valley Avocet. I like the the boat's performance, but since I kayak alone often with few other boats of any kind on the lake, a bit more stability would be comforting. Also, since I load and unload it alone, a lighter boat would be appreciated. I am looking at a carbon-kevlar Impex Montauk. Lighter in weight. That is nice. Reportedly a bit more secondary stability. Haven't had a chance to demo one yet. Opinions on the Montauk. Opinions on the Avocet vs the Montauk. Would this trade make any sense? I've owned a fiberglass Montauk since latish '01; used it somewhat extensively (and mostly alone) until late '04; and the sweet young thang has been using it since. It's a very nice boat. I've always waited for good weather to go paddling, but a time or two was caught out in worsening conditions, and was surprised at how rock-solid the Montauk was. Even with waves breaking over my rear quarter, I didn't feel the slightest bit tippy. I only fell out of the boat once, but that was because I was goofing off, trying to knock a board out of a tree with my paddle. I ended up changing the backband, and the sweetie reports that the seat is too hard, but she likes the thigh grips, and otherwise the boat has more than adequately fulfilled the suitability for which it was designed. I've never paddled an Avocet. Mike Soja |
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I paddle an Assateague, which is the biggest boat in the same series as
the Montauk. I enjoy it more than any other boat I have used (which is not a huge number). It is fast, tracks well, and seems to have very good secondary stability. (I have not had it in really big water, but I have had it in substantial chop.) I find it very comfortable. But it has less primary stability (by design, I think) than many other boats. The only person I have ever lent it to was my son, a much better paddler than I, and he really liked it as well. But all of this is just a recommendation to test it out for yourself. There is no arguing over tastes, and what one person really likes, you may not. I have not paddled an Avocet. JSB wrote the following on 9/28/2006 8:40 AM: I am new to kayaking. On my son's advise I bought a used Valley Avocet. I like the the boat's performance, but since I kayak alone often with few other boats of any kind on the lake, a bit more stability would be comforting. Also, since I load and unload it alone, a lighter boat would be appreciated. I am looking at a carbon-kevlar Impex Montauk. Lighter in weight. That is nice. Reportedly a bit more secondary stability. Haven't had a chance to demo one yet. Opinions on the Montauk. Opinions on the Avocet vs the Montauk. Would this trade make any sense? |
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Dan Koretz wrote in
: I paddle an Assateague, which is the biggest boat in the same series as the Montauk. I enjoy it more than any other boat I have used (which is not a huge number). It is fast, tracks well, and seems to have very good secondary stability. (I have not had it in really big water, but I have had it in substantial chop.) I find it very comfortable. But it has less primary stability (by design, I think) than many other boats. The only person I have ever lent it to was my son, a much better paddler than I, and he really liked it as well. But all of this is just a recommendation to test it out for yourself. There is no arguing over tastes, and what one person really likes, you may not. I have not paddled an Avocet. I *have* paddled an Avocet (spent four days in one during a symposium a few years ago) and have also paddel the Assateague and Currituck but not the Montauk. I, frankly, didn't find the initial stability to be low at all and it has good secondary. I wouldn't compare the Montauk to the Assateague as the latter is over a foot longer and much greater in volume. If it were me, I'd keep the Avocet and spend the money that would go to a new Montauk on some instruction. Improving ones bracing skills would give you more confidence and comfort with the stability of the Avocet. JSB wrote the following on 9/28/2006 8:40 AM: I am new to kayaking. On my son's advise I bought a used Valley Avocet. I like the the boat's performance, but since I kayak alone often with few other boats of any kind on the lake, a bit more stability would be comforting. Also, since I load and unload it alone, a lighter boat would be appreciated. I am looking at a carbon-kevlar Impex Montauk. Lighter in weight. That is nice. Reportedly a bit more secondary stability. Haven't had a chance to demo one yet. Opinions on the Montauk. Opinions on the Avocet vs the Montauk. Would this trade make any sense? |
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