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Send a message to the big predators: the little fish have a place too!
T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD...
Hey, if you paddle a canoe/kayak to save the environment, it's time to be proud of it. Show the selfish owners of big motorboats that you are bigger than them. canoe... http://www.zazzle.com/product/235572479315804676 kayak... http://www.zazzle.com/product/235920249478828490 or the whole revolution... http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution And just who's the dinosaur? That's the new T-shirt of a series that could change the world. Well, first you gotta know who the dinosaur is, but I can tell you he's BIG, STUPID and REFUSES TO EVOLVE. He may look like this... http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/d...nii-Illust.jpg Or he may look like this... http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...Den%26sa %3DN In any case, you may have decided you had it with the stupid beast, and you've decided to give a chance to the smart and small, just like a bike or canoe. "Do not feed the dinosaur" seems like a good start. |
Send a message to the big predators: the little fish have a placetoo!
donquijote1954 wrote:
T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD... Hey, if you paddle a canoe/kayak to save the environment, it's time to be proud of it. Show the selfish owners of big motorboats that you are bigger than them. What if you drive to the water in a gas-guzzling SUV with the canoe on top? Is there a T-shirt for that? -- Eiron. |
Send a message to the big predators: the little fish have a place too!
On Feb 18, 4:17 pm, Eiron wrote:
donquijote1954 wrote: T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD... Hey, if you paddle a canoe/kayak to save the environment, it's time to be proud of it. Show the selfish owners of big motorboats that you are bigger than them. What if you drive to the water in a gas-guzzling SUV with the canoe on top? Is there a T-shirt for that? Man, that's a tough one, but it happens. I see them out there all the time. So I guess, they are a LAND DINOSAUR, but a LITTLE FISH ON WATER. :( |
Send a message to the big predators: the little fish have a place too!
On Feb 18, 4:03 pm, "donquijote1954"
wrote: T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD... In any case, you may have decided you had it with the stupid beast, and you've decided to give a chance to the smart and small, just like a bike or canoe. "Do not feed the dinosaur" seems like a good start. I'm OK with the sentiment, but I'm having trouble with the metaphor. SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs. They don't feed them. Good luck with your campaign. Steve |
Second Coming of Jesus on a donkey --or canoe
On Feb 21, 12:24 pm, "
wrote: On Feb 18, 4:03 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD... In any case, you may have decided you had it with the stupid beast, and you've decided to give a chance to the smart and small, just like a bike or canoe. "Do not feed the dinosaur" seems like a good start. I'm OK with the sentiment, but I'm having trouble with the metaphor. SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs. They don't feed them. Good luck with your campaign. Steve Oh, that's ANOTHER metaphor. Why would God wipe out the dinosaurs, to provide oil for his worshippers in SUVs and motorboats? Oh sure, they are fulfilling the prophecies that big is good, if you ever find one. They no doubt would have sided with Rome at its prime (not the Vatican but the Roman Empire). But what if God decides to wipe out the new dinosaurs and make room for the furry little mammals? Perhaps that would be the Second Coming of Jesus on a donkey --or bicycle or canoe. Then the cyclists and canoeists will lead the next revolution... ;) For those who only listen to the preacherman, here's what the Bible says... John's gospel records that Jesus rejected the call to be their warrior king. Mounting a young donkey, he rode into Jerusalem, fulfilling the prophecy of Zephaniah: "Fear not, Daughter of Sion, your king is coming, mounted on a donkey's colt." Not a fearsome warrior, he was the humble king the prophet described. In Jerusalem he would open his arms to the poor outcasts of the world.. "At the time his disciples did not understand this..." John concludes. http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/season/palm.html |
Second Coming of Jesus on a donkey --or canoe
On Feb 21, 12:11 pm, "donquijote1954"
wrote: On Feb 21, 12:24 pm, " wrote: On Feb 18, 4:03 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD... In any case, you may have decided you had it with the stupid beast, and you've decided to give a chance to the smart and small, just like a bike or canoe. "Do not feed the dinosaur" seems like a good start. I'm OK with the sentiment, but I'm having trouble with the metaphor. SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs. They don't feed them. Good luck with your campaign. Steve Oh, that's ANOTHER metaphor. Why would God wipe out the dinosaurs, to provide oil for his worshippers in SUVs and motorboats? Oh sure, they are fulfilling the prophecies that big is good, if you ever find one. They no doubt would have sided with Rome at its prime (not the Vatican but the Roman Empire). But what if God decides to wipe out the new dinosaurs and make room for the furry little mammals? Perhaps that would be the Second Coming of Jesus on a donkey --or bicycle or canoe. Then the cyclists and canoeists will lead the next revolution... ;) For those who only listen to the preacherman, here's what the Bible says... John's gospel records that Jesus rejected the call to be their warrior king. Mounting a young donkey, he rode into Jerusalem, fulfilling the prophecy of Zephaniah: "Fear not, Daughter of Sion, your king is coming, mounted on a donkey's colt." Not a fearsome warrior, he was the humble king the prophet described. In Jerusalem he would open his arms to the poor outcasts of the world.. "At the time his disciples did not understand this..." John concludes. http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/season/palm.html Seems to me the best metaphor (or maybe contrast) is Don Quixote attacking windmills that he believes to be ferocious giants. One would think that a poster called donquijote might pick up on this.... |
Second Coming of Jesus on a donkey --or canoe
On Feb 21, 1:03 pm, "Moby Dick" wrote:
On Feb 21, 12:11 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: On Feb 21, 12:24 pm, " wrote: On Feb 18, 4:03 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD... In any case, you may have decided you had it with the stupid beast, and you've decided to give a chance to the smart and small, just like a bike or canoe. "Do not feed the dinosaur" seems like a good start. I'm OK with the sentiment, but I'm having trouble with the metaphor. SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs. They don't feed them. Good luck with your campaign. Steve Oh, that's ANOTHER metaphor. Why would God wipe out the dinosaurs, to provide oil for his worshippers in SUVs and motorboats? Oh sure, they are fulfilling the prophecies that big is good, if you ever find one. They no doubt would have sided with Rome at its prime (not the Vatican but the Roman Empire). But what if God decides to wipe out the new dinosaurs and make room for the furry little mammals? Perhaps that would be the Second Coming of Jesus on a donkey --or bicycle or canoe. Then the cyclists and canoeists will lead the next revolution... ;) For those who only listen to the preacherman, here's what the Bible says... John's gospel records that Jesus rejected the call to be their warrior king. Mounting a young donkey, he rode into Jerusalem, fulfilling the prophecy of Zephaniah: "Fear not, Daughter of Sion, your king is coming, mounted on a donkey's colt." Not a fearsome warrior, he was the humble king the prophet described. In Jerusalem he would open his arms to the poor outcasts of the world.. "At the time his disciples did not understand this..." John concludes. http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/season/palm.html Seems to me the best metaphor (or maybe contrast) is Don Quixote attacking windmills that he believes to be ferocious giants. One would think that a poster called donquijote might pick up on this.... See (especially the last paragraph) http://www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/...ageNum-12.html. |
I fight giants thinking I am fighting windmills
On Feb 21, 3:03 pm, "Moby Dick" wrote:
On Feb 21, 12:11 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: On Feb 21, 12:24 pm, " wrote: On Feb 18, 4:03 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD... In any case, you may have decided you had it with the stupid beast, and you've decided to give a chance to the smart and small, just like a bike or canoe. "Do not feed the dinosaur" seems like a good start. I'm OK with the sentiment, but I'm having trouble with the metaphor. SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs. They don't feed them. Good luck with your campaign. Steve Oh, that's ANOTHER metaphor. Why would God wipe out the dinosaurs, to provide oil for his worshippers in SUVs and motorboats? Oh sure, they are fulfilling the prophecies that big is good, if you ever find one. They no doubt would have sided with Rome at its prime (not the Vatican but the Roman Empire). But what if God decides to wipe out the new dinosaurs and make room for the furry little mammals? Perhaps that would be the Second Coming of Jesus on a donkey --or bicycle or canoe. Then the cyclists and canoeists will lead the next revolution... ;) For those who only listen to the preacherman, here's what the Bible says... John's gospel records that Jesus rejected the call to be their warrior king. Mounting a young donkey, he rode into Jerusalem, fulfilling the prophecy of Zephaniah: "Fear not, Daughter of Sion, your king is coming, mounted on a donkey's colt." Not a fearsome warrior, he was the humble king the prophet described. In Jerusalem he would open his arms to the poor outcasts of the world.. "At the time his disciples did not understand this..." John concludes. http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/season/palm.html Seems to me the best metaphor (or maybe contrast) is Don Quixote attacking windmills that he believes to be ferocious giants. One would think that a poster called donquijote might pick up on this....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you stand your ground before a charging motorboat, then you really fear no giants. But I do. They give me the creeps, just like when I'm on the water and I see a fin circling me. Then you realize you must meet your fate and dress like a knight... (hey, this is heavy duty stuff, like to charge at the giant corporations behind SUVs and motorboats) DON QUIXOTE VS THE WINDMILLS! When the environmental crisis worsens, how can one remain passive? Neither the Rio Earth Summit nor the Kyoto Protocol, regrettably, will do much, particularly when the worst predator refuses to participate. A big change is needed--or else. I have been long enough on this planet to witness, not the use, but the reckless abuse of resources. While the system measures "success" by the size of the vehicle and the motorboat there can be no solution. And while the system denies space for bicycles and other efficient alternatives there can be no solution. I have, however, a few earthy proposals: 1. INCREASE THE PRICE OF GASOLINE, such as in Europe and Japan. The revenue so raised could be used to IMPROVE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION*, from fast trains to the creation of BICICLE LANES along all major streets. 2. Open letters from parents to children, perhaps encouraged via the schools, in which the parents vow to specific lifestyle changes. Such letters are to be conspicuously displayed in the home. For example, it could say, "Ride bicycle to work," etc. Let's give life to our children, not a subsistence of rats. Don Quixote would have said: "Sancho, let's go for the giants!" *"A massive public works project that did not expand the deficit would help; something like a massive clean energy program or nationwide high- speed rail network financed by new taxes on pollution and fossil fuels. A more progressive tax system would help as well. Both seem inconceivable since the Bush administration wants to spend public works dollars on Mars not earth, and Congress that has just enacted tax breaks that exacerbate the wealth gap." http://www.eugenelinden.com/news280.html *** Don Quixotes of the Environment "I feel like Don Quixote, but quite the contrary," says Marina Silva. "Don Quixote fought windmills, thinking he was fighting giants. I fight giants thinking I am fighting windmills." http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0298/et0298s6.html |
Second Coming of Jesus on a donkey --or canoe
On Feb 21, 3:11 pm, "Moby Dick" wrote:
On Feb 21, 1:03 pm, "Moby Dick" wrote: On Feb 21, 12:11 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: On Feb 21, 12:24 pm, " wrote: On Feb 18, 4:03 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD... In any case, you may have decided you had it with the stupid beast, and you've decided to give a chance to the smart and small, just like a bike or canoe. "Do not feed the dinosaur" seems like a good start. I'm OK with the sentiment, but I'm having trouble with the metaphor. SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs. They don't feed them. Good luck with your campaign. Steve Oh, that's ANOTHER metaphor. Why would God wipe out the dinosaurs, to provide oil for his worshippers in SUVs and motorboats? Oh sure, they are fulfilling the prophecies that big is good, if you ever find one. They no doubt would have sided with Rome at its prime (not the Vatican but the Roman Empire). But what if God decides to wipe out the new dinosaurs and make room for the furry little mammals? Perhaps that would be the Second Coming of Jesus on a donkey --or bicycle or canoe. Then the cyclists and canoeists will lead the next revolution... ;) For those who only listen to the preacherman, here's what the Bible says... John's gospel records that Jesus rejected the call to be their warrior king. Mounting a young donkey, he rode into Jerusalem, fulfilling the prophecy of Zephaniah: "Fear not, Daughter of Sion, your king is coming, mounted on a donkey's colt." Not a fearsome warrior, he was the humble king the prophet described. In Jerusalem he would open his arms to the poor outcasts of the world.. "At the time his disciples did not understand this..." John concludes. http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/season/palm.html Seems to me the best metaphor (or maybe contrast) is Don Quixote attacking windmills that he believes to be ferocious giants. One would think that a poster called donquijote might pick up on this.... See (especially the last paragraph)http://www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/...eNum-12.html.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Been there, done that... The combat with the windmill is rich in symbolism. It does not matter whether the ponderous machine stands for stultified human institutions that need attacking, or ancient traditions that must be newly questioned, or totalitarian government requiring renewal by revolution, or bureaucracy being attacked by individual demands. What matters is that only a positive act of will is capable of attacking anything, and the success or failure is unimportant. "Thy triumph, my Don Quixote," writes Unamuno, "Was ever a triumph of daring, not of succeeding." Not only is Don Quixote victorious because he dares; he is always spiritually triumphant as well. He has a stoical ability to disregard his physical failures and is willing to follow his adventures after a slight recovery. |
I fight giants thinking I am fighting windmills
On Feb 21, 1:16 pm, "donquijote1954"
wrote: On Feb 21, 3:03 pm, "Moby Dick" wrote: On Feb 21, 12:11 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: On Feb 21, 12:24 pm, " wrote: On Feb 18, 4:03 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD... In any case, you may have decided you had it with the stupid beast, and you've decided to give a chance to the smart and small, just like a bike or canoe. "Do not feed the dinosaur" seems like a good start. I'm OK with the sentiment, but I'm having trouble with the metaphor. SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs. They don't feed them. Good luck with your campaign. Steve Oh, that's ANOTHER metaphor. Why would God wipe out the dinosaurs, to provide oil for his worshippers in SUVs and motorboats? Oh sure, they are fulfilling the prophecies that big is good, if you ever find one. They no doubt would have sided with Rome at its prime (not the Vatican but the Roman Empire). But what if God decides to wipe out the new dinosaurs and make room for the furry little mammals? Perhaps that would be the Second Coming of Jesus on a donkey --or bicycle or canoe. Then the cyclists and canoeists will lead the next revolution... ;) For those who only listen to the preacherman, here's what the Bible says... John's gospel records that Jesus rejected the call to be their warrior king. Mounting a young donkey, he rode into Jerusalem, fulfilling the prophecy of Zephaniah: "Fear not, Daughter of Sion, your king is coming, mounted on a donkey's colt." Not a fearsome warrior, he was the humble king the prophet described. In Jerusalem he would open his arms to the poor outcasts of the world.. "At the time his disciples did not understand this..." John concludes. http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/season/palm.html Seems to me the best metaphor (or maybe contrast) is Don Quixote attacking windmills that he believes to be ferocious giants. One would think that a poster called donquijote might pick up on this....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you stand your ground before a charging motorboat, then you really fear no giants. But I do. They give me the creeps, just like when I'm on the water and I see a fin circling me. Then you realize you must meet your fate and dress like a knight... (hey, this is heavy duty stuff, like to charge at the giant corporations behind SUVs and motorboats) DON QUIXOTE VS THE WINDMILLS! When the environmental crisis worsens, how can one remain passive? Neither the Rio Earth Summit nor the Kyoto Protocol, regrettably, will do much, particularly when the worst predator refuses to participate. A big change is needed--or else. I have been long enough on this planet to witness, not the use, but the reckless abuse of resources. While the system measures "success" by the size of the vehicle and the motorboat there can be no solution. And while the system denies space for bicycles and other efficient alternatives there can be no solution. I have, however, a few earthy proposals: 1. INCREASE THE PRICE OF GASOLINE, such as in Europe and Japan. The revenue so raised could be used to IMPROVE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION*, from fast trains to the creation of BICICLE LANES along all major streets. 2. Open letters from parents to children, perhaps encouraged via the schools, in which the parents vow to specific lifestyle changes. Such letters are to be conspicuously displayed in the home. For example, it could say, "Ride bicycle to work," etc. Let's give life to our children, not a subsistence of rats. Don Quixote would have said: "Sancho, let's go for the giants!" *"A massive public works project that did not expand the deficit would help; something like a massive clean energy program or nationwide high- speed rail network financed by new taxes on pollution and fossil fuels. A more progressive tax system would help as well. Both seem inconceivable since the Bush administration wants to spend public works dollars on Mars not earth, and Congress that has just enacted tax breaks that exacerbate the wealth gap."http://www.eugenelinden.com/news280.html *** Don Quixotes of the Environment "I feel like Don Quixote, but quite the contrary," says Marina Silva. "Don Quixote fought windmills, thinking he was fighting giants. I fight giants thinking I am fighting windmills."http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0298/et0298s6.html Good responses but I take issue with a few things. I'm not convinced the government can do better at developing alternative fuels than the competive marketplace. In fact, investors may be holding out in hopes of getting a piece of pie from the govenrment instead fo forging investments themselves. Also, I view the biggest impediments to mass transit like trains and subways as the airline and auto lobby, not the gas lobby. Oh, and our devotion to property rights isn't helping either. I've spent a lot of time in Europe. I don't think the price of gas is preventing them from pollutiong. I think they have population density advantages. When a European can afford a big car, they get one, just like Americans. That's just my experience, not a scientific study. Regarding the Kyoto protocol and the "worst predator": heck no I wouldn't join up for these either since somehow China and India are left out. On the whole those countries may be second or third world but regions are definitely some of the world's worse polluters, east China for example. Regarding public works -- FDR proved deficit spending can spur the econmy. Various presidents have used that technique again and again. Putting someone or something on Mars wilpsur technology just like putting a man on the moon did. BTW, IIIRC, Bush is spending a lot on fuel cells and clean coal. Both are good things. We should be allowing nuclear power, too. Just my opinion. Not wanting to start a fight. |
Send a message to the big predators: the little fish have a place too!
SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs
Maybe that's because they don't. Oil is not made of dead dinos. It's made from decaying vegetation. Most vegetation that grows has oils in it. When it dies, it has to go somewhere. So, is oil so bad? -- Bob Noble www.sonic.net/bnoble wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 18, 4:03 pm, "donquijote1954" wrote: T-SHIRTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD... In any case, you may have decided you had it with the stupid beast, and you've decided to give a chance to the smart and small, just like a bike or canoe. "Do not feed the dinosaur" seems like a good start. I'm OK with the sentiment, but I'm having trouble with the metaphor. SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs. They don't feed them. Good luck with your campaign. Steve |
Send a message to the big predators: the little fish have a placetoo!
Bob Noble wrote:
SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs Maybe that's because they don't. Oil is not made of dead dinos. It's made from decaying vegetation. Most vegetation that grows has oils in it. When it dies, it has to go somewhere. So, is oil so bad? I don't recall anyone saying oil was bad. Petroleum comes from decaying organic matter: plants, animals, fish, whatever, including dinosaurs. Perhaps even the little furry guys, although i don't know if they've been around long enough. Y'all, I apologize for responding to that DQ wacko. I should have known better. Steve |
Send a message to the big predators: the little fish have a place too!
In article ,
Steve Cramer wrote: Bob Noble wrote: SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs Maybe that's because they don't. Oil is not made of dead dinos. It's made from decaying vegetation. Most vegetation that grows has oils in it. When it dies, it has to go somewhere. So, is oil so bad? I don't recall anyone saying oil was bad. Petroleum comes from decaying organic matter: plants, animals, fish, whatever, including dinosaurs. Perhaps even the little furry guys, although i don't know if they've been around long enough. There is some evidence that it even comes from non-biological hydrocarbon sources, specifically methan outgassing from deed rock. |
Send a message to the big predators: the little fish have a placetoo!
Steve Hix wrote:
In article , Steve Cramer wrote: Bob Noble wrote: SUVs and motorboats run on dead dinosaurs Maybe that's because they don't. Oil is not made of dead dinos. It's made from decaying vegetation. Most vegetation that grows has oils in it. When it dies, it has to go somewhere. So, is oil so bad? I don't recall anyone saying oil was bad. Petroleum comes from decaying organic matter: plants, animals, fish, whatever, including dinosaurs. Perhaps even the little furry guys, although i don't know if they've been around long enough. There is some evidence that it even comes from non-biological hydrocarbon sources, specifically methan outgassing from deed rock. Right, I've just come across that idea. Would be nice if it's true. There may be more of the stuff down there than we thought. I think we shouldn't count on that, though. Steve |
WE THE PEOPLE
On Feb 21, 3:50 pm, "Moby Dick" wrote:
Good responses but I take issue with a few things. I'm not convinced the government can do better at developing alternative fuels than the competive marketplace. In fact, investors may be holding out in hopes of getting a piece of pie from the govenrment instead fo forging investments themselves. Also, I view the biggest impediments to mass transit like trains and subways as the airline and auto lobby, not the gas lobby. Oh, and our devotion to property rights isn't helping either. The government can do EVERYTHING if not directly, indirectly via the private market. The private market is stupid however, just GREEDY for the most part, so only the government can keep THE BEAST in check. The question is WHO keeps the government (that seems to be controlled by the beast) from doing extravagant projects (Iraq or Mars) and not the environment? Well, WE THE PEOPLE. If only we had the right issues (not gay marriage) before the elections... There are many good ideas sitting out there, but the LOW OIL PRICES don't make them competitive, and we go back to square one where nothing is done. NATURAL CAPITALISM "The book will find its audience, regardless. It is that important. The authors are setting out a boldly different framework for understanding the ecological crisis.... This perspective has something to offend nearly everyone: Business interests will choke on the apocalyptic description of the earth in crisis but may be flattered by the suggestion that they have the means to solve it. Most environmentalists agree on the vast dimensions of the threat to nature but may dismiss the authors' can-do optimism as dangerously naive. I have particular doubts of my own. Nevertheless, Natural Capitalism poses an intelligent challenge to lazy assumptions on both sides of the political divide and ought to jump-start a reinvigorated environmental debate." -William Greider http://www.natcap.org/ I've spent a lot of time in Europe. I don't think the price of gas is preventing them from pollutiong. I think they have population density advantages. When a European can afford a big car, they get one, just like Americans. That's just my experience, not a scientific study. So are many Americans too affluent too drive anything but the biggest behemoths they can lay their hands on? How about taxing gas to SUBSIDIZE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT INCLUDE THE BIKE. Yep, it's not always high tech, sometimes it's simple, like GOING BACK TO BASICS, you know. HOW ABOUT LAUNCHING A NATIOWIDE CAMPAIGN TO ENCOURAGE *SAVING*. You know the message people get from watching commercials? Yep, YOU NEED AN SUV, even if you pollute whatever is left. YOU ARE THE KING OF THE JUNGLE AND... PHUCK (?) THE WORLD. Regarding the Kyoto protocol and the "worst predator": heck no I wouldn't join up for these either since somehow China and India are left out. On the whole those countries may be second or third world but regions are definitely some of the world's worse polluters, east China for example. Well America uses 25% of resources and pollutes accordingly and it's the only major power to retire from any Kyoto commitment. We're only committed to victory in Iraq... (?) Regarding public works -- FDR proved deficit spending can spur the econmy. Various presidents have used that technique again and again. Putting someone or something on Mars wilpsur technology just like putting a man on the moon did. BTW, IIIRC, Bush is spending a lot on fuel cells and clean coal. Both are good things. We should be allowing nuclear power, too. And BIKES and SAVING too. Any real change must take into account the individual who can then ride a bike, switch to fluorescent lights, plant trees, etc, etc. The rest is BS and balloney. ECONOMIC APARTHEID? Is there a solution? Maybe. A massive public works project that did not expand the deficit would help; something like a massive clean energy program or nationwide high-speed rail network financed by new taxes on pollution and fossil fuels. A more progressive tax system would help as well. Both seem inconceivable since the Bush administration wants to spend public works dollars on Mars not earth, and Congress that has just enacted tax breaks that exacerbate the wealth gap. http://www.eugenelinden.com/news280.html Just my opinion. Not wanting to start a fight.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No fight. We follow here Jesus on the donkey --or canoe. And he was still crucified! :( |
WE THE PEOPLE
On Feb 22, 8:44 am, "donquijote1954"
wrote: On Feb 21, 3:50 pm, "Moby Dick" wrote: Good responses but I take issue with a few things. I'm not convinced the government can do better at developing alternative fuels than the competive marketplace. In fact, investors may be holding out in hopes of getting a piece of pie from the govenrment instead fo forging investments themselves. Also, I view the biggest impediments to mass transit like trains and subways as the airline and auto lobby, not the gas lobby. Oh, and our devotion to property rights isn't helping either. The government can do EVERYTHING if not directly, indirectly via the private market. The private market is stupid however, just GREEDY for the most part, so only the government can keep THE BEAST in check. The question is WHO keeps the government (that seems to be controlled by the beast) from doing extravagant projects (Iraq or Mars) and not the environment? Well, WE THE PEOPLE. If only we had the right issues (not gay marriage) before the elections... There are many good ideas sitting out there, but the LOW OIL PRICES don't make them competitive, and we go back to square one where nothing is done. NATURAL CAPITALISM "The book will find its audience, regardless. It is that important. The authors are setting out a boldly different framework for understanding the ecological crisis.... This perspective has something to offend nearly everyone: Business interests will choke on the apocalyptic description of the earth in crisis but may be flattered by the suggestion that they have the means to solve it. Most environmentalists agree on the vast dimensions of the threat to nature but may dismiss the authors' can-do optimism as dangerously naive. I have particular doubts of my own. Nevertheless, Natural Capitalism poses an intelligent challenge to lazy assumptions on both sides of the political divide and ought to jump-start a reinvigorated environmental debate." -William Greider http://www.natcap.org/ I've spent a lot of time in Europe. I don't think the price of gas is preventing them from pollutiong. I think they have population density advantages. When a European can afford a big car, they get one, just like Americans. That's just my experience, not a scientific study. So are many Americans too affluent too drive anything but the biggest behemoths they can lay their hands on? How about taxing gas to SUBSIDIZE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT INCLUDE THE BIKE. Yep, it's not always high tech, sometimes it's simple, like GOING BACK TO BASICS, you know. HOW ABOUT LAUNCHING A NATIOWIDE CAMPAIGN TO ENCOURAGE *SAVING*. You know the message people get from watching commercials? Yep, YOU NEED AN SUV, even if you pollute whatever is left. YOU ARE THE KING OF THE JUNGLE AND... PHUCK (?) THE WORLD. Regarding the Kyoto protocol and the "worst predator": heck no I wouldn't join up for these either since somehow China and India are left out. On the whole those countries may be second or third world but regions are definitely some of the world's worse polluters, east China for example. Well America uses 25% of resources and pollutes accordingly and it's the only major power to retire from any Kyoto commitment. We're only committed to victory in Iraq... (?) Regarding public works -- FDR proved deficit spending can spur the econmy. Various presidents have used that technique again and again. Putting someone or something on Mars wilpsur technology just like putting a man on the moon did. BTW, IIIRC, Bush is spending a lot on fuel cells and clean coal. Both are good things. We should be allowing nuclear power, too. And BIKES and SAVING too. Any real change must take into account the individual who can then ride a bike, switch to fluorescent lights, plant trees, etc, etc. The rest is BS and balloney. ECONOMIC APARTHEID? Is there a solution? Maybe. A massive public works project that did not expand the deficit would help; something like a massive clean energy program or nationwide high-speed rail network financed by new taxes on pollution and fossil fuels. A more progressive tax system would help as well. Both seem inconceivable since the Bush administration wants to spend public works dollars on Mars not earth, and Congress that has just enacted tax breaks that exacerbate the wealth gap. http://www.eugenelinden.com/news280.html Just my opinion. Not wanting to start a fight.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No fight. We follow here Jesus on the donkey --or canoe. And he was still crucified! :( We let's agree to disagree. I do not believe government should be in the social engineering business or the wealth redistribution business. I also don't beleive in progressive tax. How do you decide how progressive it should be -- so progressive that everybody makes the same? I believe in equal opportunity but no equal outcomes. I believe government is the solution of last resort, not first resort. Deficits don't matter much. Read P.J O'Rourkes new book on the Wealth of Nations. Stop griping about the Iraq war and help us win it. |
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On Feb 22, 7:55 pm, "Moby Dick" wrote:
On Feb 22, 8:44 am, "donquijote1954" wrote: On Feb 21, 3:50 pm, "Moby Dick" wrote: Good responses but I take issue with a few things. I'm not convinced the government can do better at developing alternative fuels than the competive marketplace. In fact, investors may be holding out in hopes of getting a piece of pie from the govenrment instead fo forging investments themselves. Also, I view the biggest impediments to mass transit like trains and subways as the airline and auto lobby, not the gas lobby. Oh, and our devotion to property rights isn't helping either. The government can do EVERYTHING if not directly, indirectly via the private market. The private market is stupid however, just GREEDY for the most part, so only the government can keep THE BEAST in check. The question is WHO keeps the government (that seems to be controlled by the beast) from doing extravagant projects (Iraq or Mars) and not the environment? Well, WE THE PEOPLE. If only we had the right issues (not gay marriage) before the elections... There are many good ideas sitting out there, but the LOW OIL PRICES don't make them competitive, and we go back to square one where nothing is done. NATURAL CAPITALISM "The book will find its audience, regardless. It is that important. The authors are setting out a boldly different framework for understanding the ecological crisis.... This perspective has something to offend nearly everyone: Business interests will choke on the apocalyptic description of the earth in crisis but may be flattered by the suggestion that they have the means to solve it. Most environmentalists agree on the vast dimensions of the threat to nature but may dismiss the authors' can-do optimism as dangerously naive. I have particular doubts of my own. Nevertheless, Natural Capitalism poses an intelligent challenge to lazy assumptions on both sides of the political divide and ought to jump-start a reinvigorated environmental debate." -William Greider http://www.natcap.org/ I've spent a lot of time in Europe. I don't think the price of gas is preventing them from pollutiong. I think they have population density advantages. When a European can afford a big car, they get one, just like Americans. That's just my experience, not a scientific study. So are many Americans too affluent too drive anything but the biggest behemoths they can lay their hands on? How about taxing gas to SUBSIDIZE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT INCLUDE THE BIKE. Yep, it's not always high tech, sometimes it's simple, like GOING BACK TO BASICS, you know. HOW ABOUT LAUNCHING A NATIOWIDE CAMPAIGN TO ENCOURAGE *SAVING*. You know the message people get from watching commercials? Yep, YOU NEED AN SUV, even if you pollute whatever is left. YOU ARE THE KING OF THE JUNGLE AND... PHUCK (?) THE WORLD. Regarding the Kyoto protocol and the "worst predator": heck no I wouldn't join up for these either since somehow China and India are left out. On the whole those countries may be second or third world but regions are definitely some of the world's worse polluters, east China for example. Well America uses 25% of resources and pollutes accordingly and it's the only major power to retire from any Kyoto commitment. We're only committed to victory in Iraq... (?) Regarding public works -- FDR proved deficit spending can spur the econmy. Various presidents have used that technique again and again. Putting someone or something on Mars wilpsur technology just like putting a man on the moon did. BTW, IIIRC, Bush is spending a lot on fuel cells and clean coal. Both are good things. We should be allowing nuclear power, too. And BIKES and SAVING too. Any real change must take into account the individual who can then ride a bike, switch to fluorescent lights, plant trees, etc, etc. The rest is BS and balloney. ECONOMIC APARTHEID? Is there a solution? Maybe. A massive public works project that did not expand the deficit would help; something like a massive clean energy program or nationwide high-speed rail network financed by new taxes on pollution and fossil fuels. A more progressive tax system would help as well. Both seem inconceivable since the Bush administration wants to spend public works dollars on Mars not earth, and Congress that has just enacted tax breaks that exacerbate the wealth gap. http://www.eugenelinden.com/news280.html Just my opinion. Not wanting to start a fight.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No fight. We follow here Jesus on the donkey --or canoe. And he was still crucified! :( We let's agree to disagree. I do not believe government should be in the social engineering business or the wealth redistribution business. I also don't beleive in progressive tax. How do you decide how progressive it should be -- so progressive that everybody makes the same? I believe in equal opportunity but no equal outcomes. I believe government is the solution of last resort, not first resort. Deficits don't matter much. Read P.J O'Rourkes new book on the Wealth of Nations. Stop griping about the Iraq war and help us win it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It sounds like motorboat anti-evolutionary thinking. Canoeing thinking sees the need to take of our own environment and our own problems (saving gas for one) and not doubtful democracy for Iraq. I see a lot of garbage floating out there and nobody is taking care of it. Perhaps we should outsource it like in Iraq. Where's the money though? |
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I'm recycling here some post, since both bikes and canoes, represent
the same thing: David vs. Goliath... It is a matter of historical record that bicycling groups were the first to push the Good Roads Movement. It's ALSO a matter of historical record that they basically failed. No they didn't. What happened was, since bicycles and automobiles were more-or-less contemporary with each other, drivers usurped the developing Good Roads Movement to their advantage. So the Good Roads Movement was originally initiated and kick-started by bicyclists. But the car drivers later stole it. Of course, a reason bicyclists "failed" is that motorists were able to pay for roads due to the taxation of gas. Thank you motorists, even if you tried to usurp bicyclists' initial efforts as your own. Wayne Thank you, American people, for subsidizing gas so the SUVs can prosper and multiply... "gas has been so crucial to our economy in the governments eyes that they have subsidized a large portion of oil production, through programs, tax-exemptions, and the hiding of pollution costs through pollution permits. They have through intervention put off an inevitable end-we will run out of gas sometime, if we continue forcing prices down on a scarce product. In fact, government has actually contributed to the overconsumption of oil. When government subsidizes something (meaning they pay for a portion of it so that the consumers don't have to) they effectively raise the demand for a product far beyond where it naturally should be. They make it cheaper for the companies to produce it and thus cheaper for consumers. This process distorts market balance, because it hides costs, and creates what is known as a moral hazard. If companies had to pay all the costs out of their own pockets, they would produce less, and with a smaller output, the cost would rise, and consumers would demand less and slowly ween themselves off of this product and substitute another for it. They would find communal travel, or alternate means of energy, things that are both economically efficient and in the long run even better for the environment. But because the government has absorbed the costs of production, they have encouraged overconsumption of this good to the extent that any miscalculation in their plan will result in the prices skyrocketing towards the price equilibrium where oil naturally should be, which is near 5 dollars per gallon or more. It is this type of economic incentive that spurs innovation and gaurds scarce resources from overconsumption. The best solution I can think of now is to let the prices of gas..." http://www.collegeliberty.com/?p=14 |
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so now the gas guzzlers are the heroes?
Oil is not sold by the gallon by the way only gas. I guess we should give the drivers a thumbs up when they get close and intimate with us on the road. But not knowing that fact about gov't support everyone still knew what it is doing to the environment and resources so they are still to blame you know. I know that is why I am a life long cyclist. Things just seem to be getting worse. Zen Yep, they are the heroes judging by the bumper stickers on their gas- guzzling SUVs: "We support our troops" and "God bless America"... The not-so-prosperous mostly supply the troops and a few cyclists who dare to ride out there. David doesn't have a chance nowadays. You know, Goliath got big bucks. |
a wake up call for the dinosaur
I know we have a problem with the dinosaur. He's so stupid that he
doesn't see the need to change! So perhaps a wake up call could be that we alert him that the asteroid is coming, or that we don't feed him --or perhaps that he reads a book like this... 'Worldchanging: A Users Guide for the 21st Century' is a groundbreaking compendium of the most innovative solutions, ideas and inventions emerging today for building a sustainable, livable, prosperous future. "To build that future, we need a generation of everyday heroes, people who - whatever their walks of life - have the courage to think in fresh ways and to act to meet this planetary crisis head-on. This book belongs in the library of every person who aspires to be part of that generation." - Al Gore http://www.worldchanging.com/book/ I think it could be an action plan for THE REVOLUTION. It talks about bicycle activism too, so, who knows, the cyclists may be the next furry little mammals. |
"I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain"
Well, it's not cocaine but another kind of addiction that goes through
the brain of the "voracious consumers" (SUVs, motorboats...) 'Oil on the Brain: Adventures from the Pump to the Pipeline' 'Lisa Margonelli's illuminating, entertaining stories of "people who oversee oil's long journey to our cars." Starting at her neighborhood filling station, she scurries up the pump like Alice down the rabbit hole, to discover and chronicle the delivery trucks, refineries, drilling rigs, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, the oil market and, most tellingly, the voracious consumers. Simply put, oil rules. It is indispensable to our comfortable lifestyles and we will go to war over access to it. Running through the book, subterranean but ever present, is our preposterous relationship to oil, an institutionalized addiction that discourages strategic change. We feed the rat [dinosaur] instead of setting a trap for it. Today's petro-states are hazards in themselves: Margonelli's portraits of Venezuela, Chad, Iran and Nigeria are cases in point. "Lurking within [those countries] were instability, poverty, nationalism, and deep anti-American feelings. The 2001 National Energy Policy, written after secret consultations between Vice President Dick Cheney and oil executives, concluded as much. ... Many people interpret it as a virtual declaration of war." Weapons of mass destruction don't have to be bombs; oil fits the bill quite nicely.' http://www.envirosagainstwar.org/kno...hp?itemid=5209 "She realizes that the long term future of energy is not with oil. She says: 'The United States could put its considerable money and political will into creating new kinds of vehicles and fuels, while creating incentives to use fossil fuels more efficiently.' Unfortunately, when I listen to our politicians, I don't hear anything about such things. Perhaps lip service as in the state of the union message, but no action." http://www.amazon.com/Oil-Brain-Adve.../dp/0385511450 and I leave you with the lyrics here (you may substitute appropriately oil for cocaine)... Song: Cocaine in My Brain Lyrics Hey Jim, Jim, just a minute y'all I want to ask you somethin' I want you to spell somethin' for me Jim Can you do that? Sure John But I want you to spell for me New York John, why you ask me to do that? I just want you to spell New York, Jim Well alright, I'm gonna go ahead man N-E-W Y-O-R-K, that's New York man No Jim, you've made a mistake, Jim I'm gonna teach you the right way And the proper way to spell New York Well, go ahead, John A knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork That's the way we spell New York, Jim - yeah You see I'm a dynamite So all you got to do is hold me tight Because I'm out a sight, you know 'Cause I'm a dynamite But everytime I walk in the rain Man, o man, I feel a pain, I feel a burning pain Keep on burning in my bloody brain I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain I want you to dig me soul brother and soul sister I want you hold me tight because I'm a dynamite - yeah I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain No matter where I treat my guest You see they always like my kitchen best 'Cause I've cocaine runnin' around my brain cocaine runnin' around my brain, yea Hey Jim, Jim? Where is Jim, man? Jim, I want you to tell me somethin' I want you to spell for me New York, Jim Come on, Jim, I want you to spell New York A knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork That's the way we spell New York Right on, out of sight man, right on, ooh Right on, yeah, right on Hey Jim, Jim, just a minute y'all I want to ask you somethin' I want you to spell somethin' for me, Jim Can you do that? Sure John But I want you to spell for me New York John, why you ask me to do that? I just want you to spell New York, Jim Well alright, I'm gonna go ahead man N-E-W Y-O-R-K, that's New York, man No Jim, you've made a mistake, Jim I'm gonna teach you the right way And the proper way to spell New York Well, go ahead, John A knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork That's the way we spell New York, Jim - yeah You see, I'm a dynamite So all you got to do is hold me tight Because I'm out a sight, you know 'Cause I'm a dynamite But everytime I walk in the rain Man, o man, I feel a pain, I feel a burning pain Keep on burning in my bloody brain I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain I want you to dig me soul brother and soul sister I want you hold me tight because I'm a dynamite - yeah I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain No matter where I treat my guest You see they always like my kitchen best 'Cause I've cocaine runnin' around my brain cocaine runnin' around my brain, yea Hey Jim, Jim? Where is Jim, man? Jim, I want you to tell me somethin' I want you to spell for me New York, Jim Come on, Jim, I want you spell New York A knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork That's the way we spell New York Right on, out of sight man, right on, ooh Right on, yeah, right on Man oh man, I'm on the run I've got to reach the setting sun 'Cause I've got cocaine A whole lot, whole lot of cocaine, man Runnin' around my brain, runnin' around my brain cocaine, cocaine, runnin' around my brain, yeah http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/mewit...einmybrain.htm |
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On Feb 24, 1:36 pm, "donquijote1954"
wrote: Well, it's not cocaine but another kind of addiction that goes through the brain of the "voracious consumers" (SUVs, motorboats...) 'Oil on the Brain: Adventures from the Pump to the Pipeline' 'Lisa Margonelli's illuminating, entertaining stories of "people who oversee oil's long journey to our cars." Starting at her neighborhood filling station, she scurries up the pump like Alice down the rabbit hole, to discover and chronicle the delivery trucks, refineries, drilling rigs, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, the oil market and, most tellingly, the voracious consumers. Simply put, oil rules. It is indispensable to our comfortable lifestyles and we will go to war over access to it. Running through the book, subterranean but ever present, is our preposterous relationship to oil, an institutionalized addiction that discourages strategic change. We feed the rat [dinosaur] instead of setting a trap for it. Today's petro-states are hazards in themselves: Margonelli's portraits of Venezuela, Chad, Iran and Nigeria are cases in point. "Lurking within [those countries] were instability, poverty, nationalism, and deep anti-American feelings. The 2001 National Energy Policy, written after secret consultations between Vice President Dick Cheney and oil executives, concluded as much. ... Many people interpret it as a virtual declaration of war." Weapons of mass destruction don't have to be bombs; oil fits the bill quite nicely.' http://www.envirosagainstwar.org/kno...hp?itemid=5209 "She realizes that the long term future of energy is not with oil. She says: 'The United States could put its considerable money and political will into creating new kinds of vehicles and fuels, while creating incentives to use fossil fuels more efficiently.' Unfortunately, when I listen to our politicians, I don't hear anything about such things. Perhaps lip service as in the state of the union message, but no action." http://www.amazon.com/Oil-Brain-Adve.../dp/0385511450 and I leave you with the lyrics here (you may substitute appropriately oil for cocaine)... Song: Cocaine in My Brain Lyrics Hey Jim, Jim, just a minute y'all I want to ask you somethin' I want you to spell somethin' for me Jim Can you do that? Sure John But I want you to spell for me New York John, why you ask me to do that? I just want you to spell New York, Jim Well alright, I'm gonna go ahead man N-E-W Y-O-R-K, that's New York man No Jim, you've made a mistake, Jim I'm gonna teach you the right way And the proper way to spell New York Well, go ahead, John A knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork That's the way we spell New York, Jim - yeah You see I'm a dynamite So all you got to do is hold me tight Because I'm out a sight, you know 'Cause I'm a dynamite But everytime I walk in the rain Man, o man, I feel a pain, I feel a burning pain Keep on burning in my bloody brain I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain I want you to dig me soul brother and soul sister I want you hold me tight because I'm a dynamite - yeah I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain No matter where I treat my guest You see they always like my kitchen best 'Cause I've cocaine runnin' around my brain cocaine runnin' around my brain, yea Hey Jim, Jim? Where is Jim, man? Jim, I want you to tell me somethin' I want you to spell for me New York, Jim Come on, Jim, I want you to spell New York A knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork That's the way we spell New York Right on, out of sight man, right on, ooh Right on, yeah, right on Hey Jim, Jim, just a minute y'all I want to ask you somethin' I want you to spell somethin' for me, Jim Can you do that? Sure John But I want you to spell for me New York John, why you ask me to do that? I just want you to spell New York, Jim Well alright, I'm gonna go ahead man N-E-W Y-O-R-K, that's New York, man No Jim, you've made a mistake, Jim I'm gonna teach you the right way And the proper way to spell New York Well, go ahead, John A knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork That's the way we spell New York, Jim - yeah You see, I'm a dynamite So all you got to do is hold me tight Because I'm out a sight, you know 'Cause I'm a dynamite But everytime I walk in the rain Man, o man, I feel a pain, I feel a burning pain Keep on burning in my bloody brain I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain I want you to dig me soul brother and soul sister I want you hold me tight because I'm a dynamite - yeah I've got cocaine runnin' around my brain No matter where I treat my guest You see they always like my kitchen best 'Cause I've cocaine runnin' around my brain cocaine runnin' around my brain, yea Hey Jim, Jim? Where is Jim, man? Jim, I want you to tell me somethin' I want you to spell for me New York, Jim Come on, Jim, I want you spell New York A knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork That's the way we spell New York Right on, out of sight man, right on, ooh Right on, yeah, right on Man oh man, I'm on the run I've got to reach the setting sun 'Cause I've got cocaine A whole lot, whole lot of cocaine, man Runnin' around my brain, runnin' around my brain cocaine, cocaine, runnin' around my brain, yeah http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/mewit...einmybrain.htm |
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On Feb 24, 3:41 pm, "TonyLee" wrote:
How do you change the subject of someone else's thread? This doesn't seem to me to be a think I'm in favor of. Wouldn't it be easier to killfile the yahoo? Steve |
ARE THE POOR BETTER ENVIRONMENTALISTS?
--I thought its was because we either can't afford powerboats or were
too cheap to buy one.-- Well, originally you may buy it because of that. But then you say, "Gee, I'm also doing the right thing!" (I hate motorboats, but would love to have a sailboat --and my canoe/kayak!) Which brings us to the issue, ARE THE POOR BETTER ENVIRONMENTALISTS? Well, some lions --a tiny minority-- got money and also have a small footprint. Here for example is Paul Newman and his daughter. I was reading last night how she defended having a Porsche, but only using it once a week and then use public transportation the rest of the week. Something understandable, no? The very poor though may not have the inspiration to own a small watercraft or bike for lack of education, and some, given the chance, would love to become lions. Just some thoughts about the jungle. ;) |
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On Feb 28, 9:44 am, "cramersec" wrote:
On Feb 24, 3:41 pm, "TonyLee" wrote: How do you change the subject of someone else's thread? This doesn't seem to me to be a think I'm in favor of. Wouldn't it be easier to killfile the yahoo? Steve Remember, the lion loves camouflage. And he wants to silence the monkey crying "lion!" |
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"donquijote1954" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 28, 9:44 am, "cramersec" wrote: On Feb 24, 3:41 pm, "TonyLee" wrote: How do you change the subject of someone else's thread? This doesn't seem to me to be a think I'm in favor of. Wouldn't it be easier to killfile the yahoo? Steve Remember, the lion loves camouflage. And he wants to silence the monkey crying "lion!" Ah yes glasshoppa! And if it takes a chicken and a half, to lay an egg and a half, in a day and a half... How many of those monkeys does it take to kick all the seeds out of a dill pickle? -- -Don Ever had one of those days where you just felt like: http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html ? (Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time) |
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On Feb 28, 1:06 pm, "Don Freeman" wrote:
Remember, the lion loves camouflage. And he wants to silence the monkey crying "lion!" Ah yes glasshoppa! And if it takes a chicken and a half, to lay an egg and a half, in a day and a half... How many of those monkeys does it take to kick all the seeds out of a dill pickle? Well, it takes a monkey to squeeze the pickle until the seeds are out. That's my best bet. :( |
land of giants
Hey, I found this kayaker's dream to be similar to mine (written by
another Quixote charging at the giants!) Here it is... land of giants Small children walk in a land of Giants. Giants of course can't always see what's going on so close to the ground. It can be tough to get a giants attention. Giants are busy with GIANT problems. Giants have GIANT pressures and GIANT distractions. Funny that they wonder why the little people seems to talk loud, repeat questions, tug, pull and sometimes just go crazy right when the giants are in the middle of something of GIANT consequence. The problem you see, is the clouds. The giant can't see below them and the little people can't see above. It can be hard sometimes for a giant to understand or care about the problems of the little people. They can seem so foreign. The little people often just can't see the giants problems. But one thing they know, something they learned from Jack, if you want a giant's attention sometimes you have to steal his harp. Of course by then the giant is angry, blustering and booming, and tripping over bean stalks still stupidly unaware of what the little person wanted in the first place. Remember Jack? Before all hell broke loose he was just hungry. I woke up this morning thinking of giants and little people. Strange I know. If you're a giant in little person's world, do me a favor, Look down. kayakquixotica.com http://www.kayakwisconsin.net/blog.html |
the Law of the Jungle is applied between a motorboat and a canoe
--These days seats are height adjustable.--
Bike seats are adjustable, but "egos" are harder to adjust. My own sweetheart is 5' too. But she doesn't like SUVs for herself. She found them "sexy" for men at the beginning of the relationship, but I guess she was influenced by the monkey on the bike (me). Now we got foldable bikes as well as a canoe when we want to have fun. And why is it that lions make it wasteful and dangerous when looking for pleasure? Yesterday we went out on the canoe, and there were a bunch of motorboats speeding around in an orgy of gasoline --and quite possibly alcohol and drugs. A scary place to be in a canoe, but you can't live under fear all the time, right? There's a question though regarding how the Law of the Jungle --the Big Fish eats the Little Fish-- is applied between a motorboat and a canoe. My take is that the canoe must run away from the charging motorboat! It seems the monkey is always guilty no matter what... :( |
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